Gophers Football thread

[hategreenticemase]

Gophers needed that.

Koi Perich is already a star.

He is something.

[hategreenticemase]

It's a nice win for sure. Pisses a mofo off on blowing UNC game, but fun game...

[SKOLMN]

It's a nice win for sure. Pisses a mofo off on blowing UNC game, but fun game...

We’re A kesich chip shot fg and a blatant officiating blunder away from a top 15 ranking arguably, what could have been..

[Slap Shot]

Some people can eat a bag of dicks at least for 1 week.
no mater
But seriously - a fucking kicker cost a win vs. UNC. The refs cost a potential win vs UMI. Not a terrible program at all, yet haters that will forgive ANYTHING the Vikings do just shit on this program no matter what. Fuck offl

[Sportsrgreat]

Well I got that one wrong! Fun bounce back win.

[hategreenticemase]

It's a nice win for sure. Pisses a mofo off on blowing UNC game, but fun game...

We’re A kesich chip shot fg and a blatant officiating blunder away from a top 15 ranking arguably, what could have been..

Yeah and the other way to look at it is we had two immensely winnable games against what was supposed to be superior teams that we fucked around just enough to not get it done. I get the onside penalty was awful, but when you are lamenting not getting an onside kick penalty called you probably didn't deserve to win anyway.

My point is poor coaching and play at critical moments prevented us from having two very quality wins and what would now be a very good season. Story of the Fleck tenure.

But last night was a big big win and fun, not taking anything away from them.

[feekdogg]

I'm fine with the UNC game. Should have won, but it's the first game and odd stuff happens. No showing after halftime at Iowa and an awful first half at Michigan are the killers. I don't think USC was worthy of their ranking, but they most certainly have more talent than the Gophers. It's been a long time since Fleck went and flat out outcoached someone, but he did yesterday.
Now don't lay an egg against a very beatable UCLA team.

[weimy froob]

Did not like going for it on 4th! Glad to be wrong

It was the right call.

yes it was. of course thompson and gaard said they should kick the FG on the radio.

[weimy froob]

I'm fine with the UNC game. Should have won, but it's the first game and odd stuff happens. No showing after halftime at Iowa and an awful first half at Michigan are the killers. I don't think USC was worthy of their ranking, but they most certainly have more talent than the Gophers. It's been a long time since Fleck went and flat out outcoached someone, but he did yesterday.
Now don't lay an egg against a very beatable UCLA team.

i thought the call/play of the game was the third and 4 interception when they were down 17-10. they were gashing the gophers with the run and i was surprised they didn't run it again. they had two downs to make four yards and instead the gophers defense made a play. bad coaching.

17-17 and i go to make a snack. how did they get the ball back?

[feekdogg]

I'm fine with the UNC game. Should have won, but it's the first game and odd stuff happens. No showing after halftime at Iowa and an awful first half at Michigan are the killers. I don't think USC was worthy of their ranking, but they most certainly have more talent than the Gophers. It's been a long time since Fleck went and flat out outcoached someone, but he did yesterday.
Now don't lay an egg against a very beatable UCLA team.

i thought the call/play of the game was the third and 4 interception when they were down 17-10. they were gashing the gophers with the run and i was surprised they didn't run it again. they had two downs to make four yards and instead the gophers defense made a play. bad coaching.

17-17 and i go to make a snack. how did they get the ball back?

Made USC punt. Moss took a dumb grounding penalty that the Trojans didn't dig their way out of.
Gophers had one stupid penalty. USC had more than a handful.

[Bob Wiley]

Congratulations to the gophers! First win against a team ranked this highly in forever! Way to go

[Slap Shot]

It's a nice win for sure. Pisses a mofo off on blowing UNC game, but fun game...

We’re A kesich chip shot fg and a blatant officiating blunder away from a top 15 ranking arguably, what could have been..

Yeah and the other way to look at it is we had two immensely winnable games against what was supposed to be superior teams that we fucked around just enough to not get it done. I get the onside penalty was awful, but when you are lamenting not getting an onside kick penalty called you probably didn't deserve to win anyway.

My point is poor coaching and play at critical moments prevented us from having two very quality wins and what would now be a very good season. Story of the Fleck tenure.

But last night was a big big win and fun, not taking anything away from them.

Coaching didn't cost them a win vs. UNC nor Michigan.

On the plus side the Gophers had several key recruits at the game today. If that win and atmosphere can't sell a kid on the program nothing will.

[hategreenticemase]

We’re A kesich chip shot fg and a blatant officiating blunder away from a top 15 ranking arguably, what could have been..

Yeah and the other way to look at it is we had two immensely winnable games against what was supposed to be superior teams that we fucked around just enough to not get it done. I get the onside penalty was awful, but when you are lamenting not getting an onside kick penalty called you probably didn't deserve to win anyway.

My point is poor coaching and play at critical moments prevented us from having two very quality wins and what would now be a very good season. Story of the Fleck tenure.

But last night was a big big win and fun, not taking anything away from them.

Coaching didn't cost them a win vs. UNC nor Michigan.

On the plus side the Gophers had several key recruits at the game today. If that win and atmosphere can't sell a kid on the program nothing will.

Won't comment on Mich game as didnt see it but rubes I trust here said Fleck made some curious decisions. Will agree to disagree on UNC game, it was ridiculously conservative. I get that your point in UNC game is make the damn fg we win, but my point is, how we strategized that game and being overly conservative led to it coming down to that anyway. Shouldn't have.

[Slap Shot]

Yeah and the other way to look at it is we had two immensely winnable games against what was supposed to be superior teams that we fucked around just enough to not get it done. I get the onside penalty was awful, but when you are lamenting not getting an onside kick penalty called you probably didn't deserve to win anyway.

My point is poor coaching and play at critical moments prevented us from having two very quality wins and what would now be a very good season. Story of the Fleck tenure.

But last night was a big big win and fun, not taking anything away from them.

Coaching didn't cost them a win vs. UNC nor Michigan.

On the plus side the Gophers had several key recruits at the game today. If that win and atmosphere can't sell a kid on the program nothing will.

Won't comment on Mich game as didnt see it but rubes I trust here said Fleck made some curious decisions. Will agree to disagree on UNC game, it was ridiculously conservative. I get that your point in UNC game is make the damn fg we win, but my point is, how we strategized that game and being overly conservative led to it coming down to that anyway. Shouldn't have.

So you can't trust my thoughts on the game? I've been watching this team since the mid-70's. I didn't see huge coaching weaknesses vs. UNC that hasn't alternatively won them many games through the years, and yeah their all-conference K missed 2 field goals not just 1. Sorry but the haters need to fuck right off. The Gophers have never had as many players in the NFL as they have right now, they've won more bowl games and conference games than any team for 60 fucking years. Fleck aint perfect and if they had a better replacement go for it. But I'm tired of people giving the Vikings every pass in the book, yet nothing the Gophers do will ever satisfy anyone and every mistake is magnified x10.

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Coaching didn't cost them a win vs. UNC nor Michigan.

On the plus side the Gophers had several key recruits at the game today. If that win and atmosphere can't sell a kid on the program nothing will.

Won't comment on Mich game as didnt see it but rubes I trust here said Fleck made some curious decisions. Will agree to disagree on UNC game, it was ridiculously conservative. I get that your point in UNC game is make the damn fg we win, but my point is, how we strategized that game and being overly conservative led to it coming down to that anyway. Shouldn't have.

So you can't trust my thoughts on the game? I've been watching this team since the mid-70's. I didn't see huge coaching weaknesses vs. UNC that hasn't alternatively won them many games through the years, and yeah their all-conference K missed 2 field goals not just 1. Sorry but the haters need to fuck right off. The Gophers have never had as many players in the NFL as they have right now, they've won more bowl games and conference games than any team for 60 fucking years. Fleck aint perfect and if they had a better replacement go for it. But I'm tired of people giving the Vikings every pass in the book, yet nothing the Gophers do will ever satisfy anyone and every mistake is magnified x10.

First of all, calm the fuck down. Holy balls.

Second of all what in the Sam fuck does the Vikings have to do with people being tired of Fleck, and on that note what the hell are you even talking about "giving Vikings every pass in the book"? No one I know alibi's for the Vikings.

Third of all, I said rubes I trust comment about a game I DID NOT SEE. I did, however, see the UNC game.

Fourth of all, and most importantly, it was an absurd and stubborn game plan. FFS were missing our best player in Taylor and UNC committed to NOT letting us run and considering they held us to 2.4 ypc id say A. They succeeded and B. It was incredible we ran 33 fucking times when clearly we couldn't do anything. 21 passes for 7.9 yards per attempt.

He is a completely stubborn coach much of the time. "We run the ball"! ...."This is what we do!"....When the defense is daring you to throw the ball, you have had all off-season to prepare your experience new toy at QB, modify your normal plan and run some offense.

It was a very stubborn and conservative approach designed to keep game close. Well, it worked, but like I said, also created a scenario where missed kicks cost them. Wasted a tremendous D performance. Let's remember, we maybe didn't even need more points - had we just gotten 5-6 more first downs then the way our D played we may have kept them to 10 or 13 points. Here is our first three drives the second half - 3 plays, 1 yard then 3 plays -2 yards and then 2 plays and fumble.

We can agree to disagree but I think Fleck deserves blame for that L.

[Slap Shot]

I brought up the Vikings because for some their fans give way more credit than they deserve. Darnold is trash.

Yeah we can agree to disagree. Also I'm calm but annoyed. Fleck never gets any credit only blame. You think you're smart enough to micro-mange his decisions in 1 game that again for the most part have lead to many wins? And their K missed 2 effing field goals. If there is any criticism this season to be had it's the game against Iowa. UNC? Fuck off.

[hategreenticemase]

I brought up the Vikings because for some their fans give way more credit than they deserve. Darnold is trash.

Yeah we can agree to disagree. Also I'm calm but annoyed. Fleck never gets any credit only blame. You think you're smart enough to micro-mange his decisions in 1 game that again for the most part have lead to many wins? And their K missed 2 effing field goals. If there is any criticism this season to be had it's the game against Iowa. UNC? Fuck off.

There is reason to question multiple decisions nearly every game. Period. He has qualities. I want to like the guy. But he is a poor in game coach. Sorry you don't see what nearly everyone else does.

[Mandatory]

I brought up the Vikings because for some their fans give way more credit than they deserve. Darnold is trash.

Yeah we can agree to disagree. Also I'm calm but annoyed. Fleck never gets any credit only blame. You think you're smart enough to micro-mange his decisions in 1 game that again for the most part have lead to many wins? And their K missed 2 effing field goals. If there is any criticism this season to be had it's the game against Iowa. UNC? Fuck off.

Now this is what I pay a yearly subscription for. Fuck yeah, gopher chat!!!!

[Slap Shot]

I brought up the Vikings because for some their fans give way more credit than they deserve. Darnold is trash.

Yeah we can agree to disagree. Also I'm calm but annoyed. Fleck never gets any credit only blame. You think you're smart enough to micro-mange his decisions in 1 game that again for the most part have lead to many wins? And their K missed 2 effing field goals. If there is any criticism this season to be had it's the game against Iowa. UNC? Fuck off.

There is reason to question multiple decisions nearly every game. Period. He has qualities. I want to like the guy. But he is a poor in game coach. Sorry you don't see what nearly everyone else does.

"nearly everyone else"

[hategreenticemase]

I brought up the Vikings because for some their fans give way more credit than they deserve. Darnold is trash.

Yeah we can agree to disagree. Also I'm calm but annoyed. Fleck never gets any credit only blame. You think you're smart enough to micro-mange his decisions in 1 game that again for the most part have lead to many wins? And their K missed 2 effing field goals. If there is any criticism this season to be had it's the game against Iowa. UNC? Fuck off.

There is reason to question multiple decisions nearly every game. Period. He has qualities. I want to like the guy. But he is a poor in game coach. Sorry you don't see what nearly everyone else does.

"nearly everyone else"

Are you new to Gopher chat? Or, you know, to MN?

[Hornets]

Today's game vs USC harkens me back to the days when USC seemed to have one Heisman RB after another...

Garrett (1965)
Simpson (1968)
White (1979)
Allen (1981)
Palmer (2002)
Leinart (2004)
Bush (2005)
Williams (2022)

And they almost had another one with Anthony Davis (my personal USC favorite) back in 1974. AD came in 2nd place to Archie Griffin that year!

[Slap Shot]

There is reason to question multiple decisions nearly every game. Period. He has qualities. I want to like the guy. But he is a poor in game coach. Sorry you don't see what nearly everyone else does.

"nearly everyone else"

Are you new to Gopher chat? Or, you know, to MN?

I couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone here has to say. I doubt most even watch the games. Minnesota isn't getting grade A talent so they're not winning as many games as they do without having coaches that know how to coach. You can believe what you want. It's ok.

[hategreenticemase]

"nearly everyone else"

Are you new to Gopher chat? Or, you know, to MN?

I couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone here has to say. I doubt most even watch the games. Minnesota isn't getting grade A talent so they're not winning as many games as they do without having coaches that know how to coach. You can believe what you want. It's ok.

Sure is odd to not value any poster at a site and to assume "they don't watch the games", yet, here you are, you know, posting (and caring what say). But hey, you do you.

I'm gonna bail now, this ain't going anywhere. Have a good day. Enjoy the nice win.

[Slap Shot]

Are you new to Gopher chat? Or, you know, to MN?

I couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone here has to say. I doubt most even watch the games. Minnesota isn't getting grade A talent so they're not winning as many games as they do without having coaches that know how to coach. You can believe what you want. It's ok.

Sure is odd to not value any poster at a site and to assume "they don't watch the games", yet, here you are, you know, posting (and caring what say). But hey, you do you.

I'm gonna bail now, this ain't going anywhere. Have a good day. Enjoy the nice win.

I have to assume they're not watching based upon their commentary. Claiming Fleck can't coach in-game is just a flat out ignorant and lazy argument to make. Of course he makes mistakes, but the criticisms go well past that. Again they don't win as many games as they do with bottom of the conference recruiting classes if the coaches can't coach. Period.

[Sellingguy]

This weekend was that 1 big win they get each year.

Fleck is a good coach who can get kids to preform. The issue is he set his bar at National Championshp and that is just not going to happen. Not that I want a coach to not have goals, but you don't do yourself any favors by rah rah here comes the championships.

It is a issue that most teams have. They really have no shot. How the coach handles that is important.

[feekdogg]

2023 from a pure coaching standpoint was the worst season here since Brewster got fired. Ultra-conservatism and a failure to react/prepare cost them easily 3 wins: NW, Illinois and Purdue. Those weren't issues related to talent. Win those, and people would be a whole lot less critical than they've been this season. Also, there's a reason that the coaching tree PJ is on pretty much runs directly between here and Rutgers. Lots of coaches don't like him, lots of coaches don't respect him. Rossi and Ciraccoa both left in conference for lateral moves. Yes, it was money-related too, but that's on PJ and his agent to allocate more money for coordinators. And that's not a priority with him.
Beating USC was the kick in the pants the program needed right now, but I've got a feeling the Trojans are going to be a 7-5 team, at best when it's all said and done. Lots of other places, the seat would be warm if that's the highwater mark. Luckily for PJ, nobody really cares (including his bosses), so he's got security for at least two more years.

[Mandatory]

University needs to start dumping more money into the program. Pay for some top talent. I said what I said.

[Sellingguy]

University needs to start dumping more money into the program. Pay for some top talent. I said what I said.

that money comes from donors and I dont think the U has a big list to pull from like a Michigan or OSU.

[feekdogg]

University needs to start dumping more money into the program. Pay for some top talent. I said what I said.

that money comes from donors and I dont think the U has a big list to pull from like a Michigan or OSU.

I gave $100 bucks last year and I'm like the 6th or 7th biggest donor.

[hategreenticemase]

University needs to start dumping more money into the program. Pay for some top talent. I said what I said.

that money comes from donors and I dont think the U has a big list to pull from like a Michigan or OSU.

I gave $100 bucks last year and I'm like the 6th or 7th biggest donor.