***Kwesi's 3-year GM draft report card***

[cunningham]

One thing I will say regaurding the 2022 Draft... They were using Rick Speilman's scouts. The Scouts spent 2021 season scouting for players in Zimmer Defense and Kubiak's Offense. (Zimmer's D is way different than Flo's now). in the 2022 draft they were drafting for Ed Donatell's D (which is much different than B-Flo's) Had Lewis Cine not ben injured who knows what he could have become here. He was kind of a hybrid Safety/LB maybe he could have been a Pace/Mettelous type player had he not been injured and/or those 2 didn't fill that role.

Booth/Evans were not fits for B-Flo's defense.

So all and all I don't think 2022 Draft should ever really be judged. It was bad, but also atleast KAM didn't keep pieces that wouldn't work. Them All being gone is a good thing. Show's he isn;t going to make a bad choice work.

The Key to 2023/2024 will be if Blackmon can be the player they hope. JJ is a stud and Turner Develops. Plus will one of the 2 Lineman they were high on be good. Rouse/Jurgens. Addison and Reichard are both hits. And Kyree will always be a what if.

Great points. I just hope if he trades down in round 1 to get some more picks he gets a hell of a lot more than he did trading down in his first draft.

[RubeTube]

Kwesi has been god like.

[mlhouse]

One thing I will say regaurding the 2022 Draft... They were using Rick Speilman's scouts. The Scouts spent 2021 season scouting for players in Zimmer Defense and Kubiak's Offense. (Zimmer's D is way different than Flo's now). in the 2022 draft they were drafting for Ed Donatell's D (which is much different than B-Flo's) Had Lewis Cine not ben injured who knows what he could have become here. He was kind of a hybrid Safety/LB maybe he could have been a Pace/Mettelous type player had he not been injured and/or those 2 didn't fill that role.

Booth/Evans were not fits for B-Flo's defense.

So all and all I don't think 2022 Draft should ever really be judged. It was bad, but also atleast KAM didn't keep pieces that wouldn't work. Them All being gone is a good thing. Show's he isn;t going to make a bad choice work.

The Key to 2023/2024 will be if Blackmon can be the player they hope. JJ is a stud and Turner Develops. Plus will one of the 2 Lineman they were high on be good. Rouse/Jurgens. Addison and Reichard are both hits. And Kyree will always be a what if.

Doesn't matter whose "Scouts" they were using. The most important person evaluating draft talent is the position coach for those positions. Offensive line coach for the oLine.... DB coach for the defensive backs.

[Style]

It’s an F.

Can rise based on McCarthy and Turner, but that’s a heap of terrible picks.

On the bright side, can’t get much worse, right?

[Norn_Iron]

It’s an F.

Can rise based on McCarthy and Turner, but that’s a heap of terrible picks.

On the bright side, can’t get much worse, right?

Can't get much worse than a 14-3 season?

I'll let the Panthers know

[Style]

It’s an F.

Can rise based on McCarthy and Turner, but that’s a heap of terrible picks.

On the bright side, can’t get much worse, right?

Can't get much worse than a 14-3 season?

I'll let the Panthers know

The post is about draft success. Stick to that; you’re a bad smartass.

[Norn_Iron]

It’s an F.

Can rise based on McCarthy and Turner, but that’s a heap of terrible picks.

On the bright side, can’t get much worse, right?

Can't get much worse than a 14-3 season?

I'll let the Panthers know

The post is about draft success. Stick to that; you’re a bad smartass.

Yes, that's the thread title. Congrats you can read.

That's not the conversation though. The conversation is on his overall performance.
So you cant comprehend. Sorry not sorry

[Beef Supreme]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

[hategreenticemase]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

If we get Kupp, it's very very good. I hesitate to say off the charts or elite only because of the age/injury concerns of those purchased but I think it has to be factored in there maybe wasn't any van ginkel/Greenard type options OL or DL wise either. I give him a strong A.

Is Boo Boo Rouse being considered for guard? Thought I saw that a couple places they are high on him, you heard anything? (Yeah I know it's Walter, but who didn't love them some.boo boo.rouse back in day?)

My other request is Brandel isn't given the job. Make him earn it. Bring back Risner or bring in a legit possible starter. Or if Boo Boo is a legit factor. On that last aspect I don't trust this ol coaching to.A. know if he can play there and B develop him to see if he can. But yeah, hoping is good comp for LG.

About my only complaint and its absurd to even mention it it but I would have moved on from Wright, get a better P ...

[Tuck ya in]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

Pretty much sums it up, that's his M.O. so far. Just crossing fingers he can pluck an eventual starter in this draft, he has to. Hard pass on Rodgers.

[Tuck ya in]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

If we get Kupp, it's very very good. I hesitate to say off the charts or elite only because of the age/injury concerns of those purchased but I think it has to be factored in there maybe wasn't any van ginkel/Greenard type options OL or DL wise either. I give him a strong A.

Is Boo Boo Rouse being considered for guard? Thought I saw that a couple places they are high on him, you heard anything? (Yeah I know it's Walter, but who didn't love them some.boo boo.rouse back in day?)

My other request is Brandel isn't given the job. Make him earn it. Bring back Risner or bring in a legit possible starter. Or if Boo Boo is a legit factor. On that last aspect I don't trust this ol coaching to.A. know if he can play there and B develop him to see if he can. But yeah, hoping is good comp for LG.

About my only complaint and its absurd to even mention it it but I would have moved on from Wright, get a better P ...

On paper his 2025 free agency is a solid A, he gets Kupp and it's about as good as it can get. Funny you brought up the punter, my brother was beside himself over his resigning. He's pretty inconsistent at best, have to agree there.

[witljon]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

Who makes the decision on QB? Kwesi or KOC?

[Beetlejuice]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

Who makes the decision on QB? Kwesi or KOC?

I would hope it’s KOC.

[Beef Supreme]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

Who makes the decision on QB? Kwesi or KOC?

I assume it’s collaborative.


I think Froobs sometimes have this fantasy that one guy is “in charge” and dictates his will to others. That’s not a healthy environment or way to make these kinds of decisions. And O’Connell and Kwesi gush constantly about their relationship and collaborative process and I’ve seen nothing to convince me that they’re blowing smoke.

[hategreenticemase]

On paper at least, it’s another good free agency for Kwesi, even if he doesn’t get much else done. If he signs Rodgers, that could ruin it. But I don’t think he will.


Seeing as so far his pattern is to crush free agency and stumble in the draft, maybe we should call him Mr. March.



At least until he proves he can be Mr. April too.

Who makes the decision on QB? Kwesi or KOC?

I would hope it’s KOC.

I agree with what Beef said, but that Kwesi is smart enough to defer to KOC.

[Norn_Iron]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

[Beetlejuice]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

Only one draft has made it three years. We’ll see if Blackmon (injury) and Ward can break out on their third year. If they do, then this draft class would be Addison, Blackmon, Ward, and Pace.

Not too shabby if that happens.

[salamander]

I agree with what Beef said, but that Kwesi is smart enough to defer to KOC.

It's so obvious.

Beef made a good point to typically you...

I agree with Beef.

Anyway, good points, Beef.

Read what Beef was responding to.
I think you have dementia. Yikes!

Your obsession is as hilarious as it is stupid.

PS. Beef was right, they definitely...

Ol Beefie was the earliest on this close decline.

15-2 and the top seed would be fun, but I’m still holding out hope they can get a better draft pick.

Post of the day.

They are not elite, but they are very, very good situationally. And if the offense ever gets on track, that’s enough to win.

This.

Like Joe Flacco?

Rams ain’t stopping us. We’re stopping ourselves.
It’s still our game to win if we focus and execute.

This.

They should have listened to the beef.

Beef, I agree with almost all of that. Thanks for the thoughts.

Put in Mullens.

This also.

WTF, Jones? You’re a vet. You can’t do that.

Exactly.

Kick it.

100%

'

Van Ginkle is so good.

Fn this.

[Oriole81]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

[Oriole81]

I agree with what Beef said, but that Kwesi is smart enough to defer to KOC.

It's so obvious.

Beef made a good point to typically you...

I agree with Beef.

Anyway, good points, Beef.

Read what Beef was responding to.
I think you have dementia. Yikes!

Your obsession is as hilarious as it is stupid.

PS. Beef was right, they definitely...

Ol Beefie was the earliest on this close decline.

15-2 and the top seed would be fun, but I’m still holding out hope they can get a better draft pick.

Post of the day.

They are not elite, but they are very, very good situationally. And if the offense ever gets on track, that’s enough to win.

This.

Like Joe Flacco?

Rams ain’t stopping us. We’re stopping ourselves.
It’s still our game to win if we focus and execute.

This.

They should have listened to the beef.

Beef, I agree with almost all of that. Thanks for the thoughts.

Put in Mullens.

This also.

WTF, Jones? You’re a vet. You can’t do that.

Exactly.

Kick it.

100%

'

Van Ginkle is so good.

Fn this.

That seems like a productive use of your morning.

[Beef Supreme]

Sally is a weird dude.

[Small Hands]

I agree with what Beef said, but that Kwesi is smart enough to defer to KOC.

It's so obvious.

Beef made a good point to typically you...

I agree with Beef.

Anyway, good points, Beef.

Read what Beef was responding to.
I think you have dementia. Yikes!

Your obsession is as hilarious as it is stupid.

PS. Beef was right, they definitely...

Ol Beefie was the earliest on this close decline.

15-2 and the top seed would be fun, but I’m still holding out hope they can get a better draft pick.

Post of the day.

They are not elite, but they are very, very good situationally. And if the offense ever gets on track, that’s enough to win.

This.

Like Joe Flacco?

Rams ain’t stopping us. We’re stopping ourselves.
It’s still our game to win if we focus and execute.

This.

They should have listened to the beef.

Beef, I agree with almost all of that. Thanks for the thoughts.

Put in Mullens.

This also.

WTF, Jones? You’re a vet. You can’t do that.

Exactly.

Kick it.

100%

'

Van Ginkle is so good.

Fn this.

[Oriole81]

Sally is a weird dude.

I agree with what Beef said

[Norn_Iron]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

Flores has been HUGE for us - i'd pay him whatever it takes to keep him here as DC

He turned us around straightaway and got amazing results after modest recruitment last year
I fully expect we take another step forward next year - as he looks to have built in rotational depth that we can use throughout the game

[Norn_Iron]

Sally is a weird dude.

I agree with what Beef said

That's mean, now he has to look for all the times you agreed with Beef

Someone could complete a PhD on mental health issues, by only studying this website

And i've never even been in Poli-chat

[Small Hands]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

Flores has been HUGE for us - i'd pay him whatever it takes to keep him here as DC

He turned us around straightaway and got amazing results after modest recruitment last year
I fully expect we take another step forward next year - as he looks to have built in rotational depth that we can use throughout the game

I’ll be interested to see if he tapers down on the blitz if/when our front 4 creates its own pressure. Guessing it will decrease some, but who knows with him. Looking forward to seeing him work with a more talented group this season.

[Oriole81]

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

Flores has been HUGE for us - i'd pay him whatever it takes to keep him here as DC

He turned us around straightaway and got amazing results after modest recruitment last year
I fully expect we take another step forward next year - as he looks to have built in rotational depth that we can use throughout the game

I’ll be interested to see if he tapers down on the blitz if/when our front 4 creates its own pressure. Guessing it will decrease some, but who knows with him. Looking forward to seeing him work with a more talented group this season.

My hunch says it will. I think that was out of necessity.
I think the real creativity will be with being able to utilize the inside/outside ability of the LBs and safeties. Because they all have inside/outside capabilities, I think the real creativity will be the midn games of who will be rushing and who will be backing up into coverage.

There's plenty of ways to still be creative, while using a 4 man rush.

[Beef Supreme]

Sally is a weird dude.

I agree with what Beef said

[Beef Supreme]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

I hope that’s what it was. There some evidence to support that idea.


But ultimately, he and O’Connell are the ones that hired Ed “the system is fine” Donatell in the first place. So they can still be held to account for it. But since they’ve clearly rectified that problem, then it would not be a concern moving forward.

[hategreenticemase]

I think Kwesi has been pretty solid and definitely bold with his decisions.

It was that first draft though that was absolutely terrible that mean people still have questions.
Last years draft was really good - I am expecting Turner to really flash this year, and some good work last, when he got the chance

JJ may bust, but I don't think that would be on Kwesi, we have done (at least on paper) a great job of getting him a supporting cast

And maybe when we look back at things, it will be more clear that 2022 was a byproduct of just hiring the wrong DC in Donatell.
Since making that change and hiring a guy with a clearer vision, better eye for talent, and better at developing lesser tiered prospects, our defense has been humming.

I hope that’s what it was. There some evidence to support that idea.


But ultimately, he and O’Connell are the ones that hired Ed “the system is fine” Donatell in the first place. So they can still be held to account for it. But since they’ve clearly rectified that problem, then it would not be a concern moving forward.

Hell a case could be made that they we're late in firing him even, as absurd as it would have been to fire a defensive coordinator heading into the playoffs, a damn good case could have been made that they should have with that moron. As long as I live I will never forget a guy thinking yeah let's have Harrison Smith 15 yards from the line of scrimmage as the best usage of him.