Have the Patriots lost their touch?

[Dan33185]

It's about time this thread was brought back

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[Donovan McNabb]

I could see them going down this year. The Chiefs are pretty good.

[Dan33185]

Man, I wish the original thread on Rube Chat was still around.

[B-Town]

I know. I never would have thought that my stupidity would inspire 60 pages of hilarity.

[Night Train]

Doesn't appear so... and now they're adding Antonio Brown.

[Beef Supreme]

Patriots lead the NFL in "net points" with +121.


2nd place is San Fran with +42


That's insane.



FWIW, Vikes are 4th with +39.

[Dan33185]

Patriots lead the NFL in "net points" with +121.


2nd place is San Fran with +42


That's insane.



FWIW, Vikes are 4th with +39.

I noticed that as well, crazy stat. Obviously playing bad teams helps, but they are giving up about a touchdown a game, that's an impressive stat in today's NFL.

[Jimtown guy]

Patriots lead the NFL in "net points" with +121.


2nd place is San Fran with +42


That's insane.



FWIW, Vikes are 4th with +39.

I noticed that as well, crazy stat. Obviously playing bad teams helps, but they are giving up about a touchdown a game, that's an impressive stat in today's NFL.

What is even scarier is Brady says this is the best defense he has seen since he became a Patriot. Looks like number 7 is a real possibilty

[B-Town]

Well?

[Dan33185]

Well?

Kind of an odd time to bump this, nothing's even happened yet

[RM22]

One of the all time classic face palm threads. Patriots won 2 titles and went to the SB 3 times after Fresh Dunce posted this.

I truly believe Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence. Edelman gets traded, so does Gillmore.

[Small Hands]

One of the all time classic face palm threads. Patriots won 2 titles and went to the SB 3 times after Fresh Dunce posted this.

I truly believe Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence. Edelman gets traded, so does Gillmore.

I want us to tank for Lawrence. Sadly, that dream is dead with the Cousins extension. I don't think Belicheat would be able to tank a season. He's too competitive. It may happen naturally though. That offense looks hideous on paper.

[RM22]

One of the all time classic face palm threads. Patriots won 2 titles and went to the SB 3 times after Fresh Dunce posted this.

I truly believe Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence. Edelman gets traded, so does Gillmore.

I want us to tank for Lawrence. Sadly, that dream is dead with the Cousins extension. I don't think Belicheat would be able to tank a season. He's too competitive. It may happen naturally though. That offense looks hideous on paper.

He has a stockpile of 2021 picks. Rumor is Edelman to Green Bay and He could get a 2021 1st rounder and more for Gillmore.

[RubeTube]

One of the all time classic face palm threads. Patriots won 2 titles and went to the SB 3 times after Fresh Dunce posted this.

I truly believe Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence. Edelman gets traded, so does Gillmore.

I want us to tank for Lawrence. Sadly, that dream is dead with the Cousins extension. I don't think Belicheat would be able to tank a season. He's too competitive. It may happen naturally though. That offense looks hideous on paper.

He has a stockpile of 2021 picks. Rumor is Edelman to Green Bay and He could get a 2021 1st rounder and more for Gillmore.

I would love to see GB give dome decent for a almost 34 yesr.old Edelman.

I don't believe this move will happen though.

[RM22]

He has a stockpile of 2021 picks. Rumor is Edelman to Green Bay and He could get a 2021 1st rounder and more for Gillmore.

I would love to see GB give dome decent for a almost 34 yesr.old Edelman.

I don't believe this move will happen though.

Don't sleep on JE. That dude is a gamer. Who on the Vikes is going to cover him in the slot?

AJ Dillon is my favorite back in this draft class. Plus the Pack drafted a solid TE/FB. Add Edelman, Dillon, Jones with Adams. Arog has some weapons.

[RubeTube]

He has a stockpile of 2021 picks. Rumor is Edelman to Green Bay and He could get a 2021 1st rounder and more for Gillmore.

I would love to see GB give dome decent for a almost 34 yesr.old Edelman.

I don't believe this move will happen though.

Don't sleep om JE. That dude is a gamer. Who on the Vikes is going to cover him in the slot?

AJ Dillon is my favorite back in this draft class. Plus the Pack drafted a solid TE/FB. Add Edelman, Dillon, Jones with Adams. Arog has some weapons.

Not worried how the Vikings will cover him. Vikings are going to be mediocre this year. He's not enough to put GB over the top of a SB. Let them trade away a future piece for him.

I can't imagine it would cost much thlugh. 5th rounder?

[RM22]

Don't sleep om JE. That dude is a gamer. Who on the Vikes is going to cover him in the slot?

AJ Dillon is my favorite back in this draft class. Plus the Pack drafted a solid TE/FB. Add Edelman, Dillon, Jones with Adams. Arog has some weapons.

Not worried how the Vikings will cover him. Vikings are going to be mediocre this year. He's not enough to put GB over the top of a SB. Let them trade away a future piece for him.

I can't imagine it would cost much thlugh. 5th rounder?

For a Superbowl MVP? You obviously don't watch many Patriots games. He was literally Brady's only target last year. He took a beating. And ended up with 100 catches and 1117 yards.

Prime Time compared him to Scottie Pippen. On how valuable he was to the Championship Franchise.

[RubeTube]

Don't sleep om JE. That dude is a gamer. Who on the Vikes is going to cover him in the slot?

AJ Dillon is my favorite back in this draft class. Plus the Pack drafted a solid TE/FB. Add Edelman, Dillon, Jones with Adams. Arog has some weapons.

Not worried how the Vikings will cover him. Vikings are going to be mediocre this year. He's not enough to put GB over the top of a SB. Let them trade away a future piece for him.

I can't imagine it would cost much thlugh. 5th rounder?

For a Superbowl MVP? You obviously don't watch many Patriots games. He was literally Brady's only target last year. He took a beating. And ended up with 100 catches and 1117 yards.

He's ancient. The Pats imo don't want to win. If they do, they won't trade him. Nobody is giving up much for him. You might be able to pry a 4th. No higher and I wouldn't even do that.

I'm not saying he isn't/wasn't good.

[RM22]

He's Clutch. And no, the Patriots do not want to win. Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence.

I bet Edeleman is worth a 3rd from a team like GB. Or TB.

[RM22]

Last year Edelman had his best statistical season. He turns 34 this month. There is plenty left in his tank. well worth a 3rd to any team.

It's like saying ARodg isn't any good because he is 34.

[RubeTube]

He's Clutch. And no, the Patriots do not want to win. Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence.

I bet Edeleman is worth a 3rd from a team like GB. Or TB.

TB makes more sense as they are all in. They are a legit SB contender.

Having Evans, Godwin, Gronk and Edelman would be sick.

[RM22]

He's Clutch. And no, the Patriots do not want to win. Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence.

I bet Edeleman is worth a 3rd from a team like GB. Or TB.

TB makes more sense as they are all in. They are a legit SB contender.

Having Evans, Godwin, Gronk and Edelman would be sick.

Green Bay went to the NFC Champ game last year. In a weak division. They could get the #1 seed and have a home playoff game in Lamblow come January. You're clearly not seeing this the way I am. Plus. ARodg is pissed at the team for drafting Love. They trade for JE, it brings in a proven winner/gamer.

[RubeTube]

He's Clutch. And no, the Patriots do not want to win. Bill is tanking for Trevor Lawerence.

I bet Edeleman is worth a 3rd from a team like GB. Or TB.

TB makes more sense as they are all in. They are a legit SB contender.

Having Evans, Godwin, Gronk and Edelman would be sick.

Green Bay went to the NFC Champ game last year. In a weak division. They could get the #1 seed and have a home playoff game in Lamblow come January. You're clearly not seeing this the way I am. Plus. ARodg is pissed at the team for drafting Love. They trade for JE, it brings in a proven winner/gamer.

Meh. I watch the Packerd like.I do the Vikings. Even all their preseason. Most.of.my family and friends are Packer fans.

That team was a major fluke last year. They are at best a 10-6 squad. The division will be a shit show this year imo. They are all decent but no one is great.

They shouldn't even have beat the Hawks in blow and lost just as bad as the Vikings did to the Niners.

[RM22]

Well as I told you the Niners were the class of the NFC. They crushed GB twice. Hawks have the best outside chance. But GB isn't as far away with ARodg. Give him these weapons, in a weak division and they have a legitimate shot.

Good talk Tube. I'm audi.

[bubu dubu.]

Well as I told you the Niners were the class of the NFC. They crushed GB twice. Hawks have the best outside chance. But GB isn't as far away with ARodg. Give him these weapons, in a weak division and they have a legitimate shot.

Good talk Tube. I'm audi.

The North is not a week division at all. None really scream Championship contender, but the Packers, Bears and Vikings all could be highly competitive this year...and maybe one of them steps up as a championship contender. Foles could be a Wild Card in this division. How much better would the Bears have been last year with someone more capable than Trubisky? Certainly better than 8-8.

[RubeTube]

Well as I told you the Niners were the class of the NFC. They crushed GB twice. Hawks have the best outside chance. But GB isn't as far away with ARodg. Give him these weapons, in a weak division and they have a legitimate shot.

Good talk Tube. I'm audi.

The North is not a week division at all. None really scream Championship contender, but the Packers, Bears and Vikings all could be highly competitive this year...and maybe one of them steps up as a championship contender. Foles could be a Wild Card in this division. How much better would the Bears have been last year with someone more capable than Trubisky? Certainly better than 8-8.

Don't count the Lions out either.

I don't see anyone worse than 7-9 and anyone better than 10-6.

[bubu dubu.]

Well as I told you the Niners were the class of the NFC. They crushed GB twice. Hawks have the best outside chance. But GB isn't as far away with ARodg. Give him these weapons, in a weak division and they have a legitimate shot.

Good talk Tube. I'm audi.

The North is not a week division at all. None really scream Championship contender, but the Packers, Bears and Vikings all could be highly competitive this year...and maybe one of them steps up as a championship contender. Foles could be a Wild Card in this division. How much better would the Bears have been last year with someone more capable than Trubisky? Certainly better than 8-8.

Don't count the Lions out either.

I don't see anyone worse than 7-9 and anyone better than 10-6.

yeah, I was gonna say 6-10 for the Lions, and if thats your worst team in a division, thats a pretty competitive last place team. Lions have some real nice offensive players on paper too. I'm just really never worried about the Lions, even when they are having up years.

I could very well see a scenario like yours of the 4 teams in this division being within 3 games of each other...that would be a very entertaining year. I still think one of the 3 of the Vikes, Pack and Bears get momentum, and rise to 11-5 or 12-4. Vikes have a very talented roster, but some huge holes. Packers have a balanced team now, though I think they blew their shot at ascending to an elite offense without adding a playmaker on offense. And the Bears have one of the leagues most feared defenses in the whole league as long as Mack is healthy, to go along with one of the better home field advantages in the whole league...Foles is the key for that team. He hasnt had a great regular season since 2013, and has never even played a full season (He hasnt even played more than 7 games since 2015), but we all saw what he could do in the playoffs with Philly. If he does during the season, what he did in the playoffs for Philly, Bears could run away. If he's his usual regular season self, the Bears have a QB controversy all season, and have mediocre QB play and will probably look like the 8-8 team they were last year.

[RubeTube]

The North is not a week division at all. None really scream Championship contender, but the Packers, Bears and Vikings all could be highly competitive this year...and maybe one of them steps up as a championship contender. Foles could be a Wild Card in this division. How much better would the Bears have been last year with someone more capable than Trubisky? Certainly better than 8-8.

Don't count the Lions out either.

I don't see anyone worse than 7-9 and anyone better than 10-6.

yeah, I was gonna say 6-10 for the Lions, and if thats your worst team in a division, thats a pretty competitive last place team. Lions have some real nice offensive players on paper too. I'm just really never worried about the Lions, even when they are having up years.

I could very well see a scenario like yours of the 4 teams in this division being within 3 games of each other...that would be a very entertaining year. I still think one of the 3 of the Vikes, Pack and Bears get momentum, and rise to 11-5 or 12-4. Vikes have a very talented roster, but some huge holes. Packers have a balanced team now, though I think they blew their shot at ascending to an elite offense without adding a playmaker on offense. And the Bears have one of the leagues most feared defenses in the whole league as long as Mack is healthy, to go along with one of the better home field advantages in the whole league...Foles is the key for that team. He hasnt had a great regular season since 2013, and has never even played a full season (He hasnt even played more than 7 games since 2015), but we all saw what he could do in the playoffs with Philly. If he does during the season, what he did in the playoffs for Philly, Bears could run away. If he's his usual regular season self, the Bears have a QB controversy all season, and have mediocre QB play and will probably look like the 8-8 team they were last year.

I'll wait until the schedules are out to make my final predictions but have you seen GBs opponents?

It's has to be one of the hardest in the league.

@Niners, @Saints, @Tampa

Home games against the Titans, Eagles, Vikings.

Right now I'm going...

Bears 10-6
Packers 9-7
Vikings 8-8
Lions 7-9

[PurpleFloyd]

It's about time this thread was brought back

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[Dan33185]

It's about time this thread was brought back

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Yes

I mean...they made the playoffs with a rookie QB, and even though they did get blown out, I would consider that a success.