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Falcons Tampering? Will Vikes Get Compensation?

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weimy froob wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am that'd work.
That would be huge.
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Gordonbombay wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:37 am
minnemike wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:09 am
Beetlejuice wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:52 pm I read an article that says the league would force the Falcons to forfeit draft picks. Source said it’s unlikely the Vikings will be compensated.
IF they take away their first round pick, it would be worse for them and half good for MN - they move up one spot.
My source is telling me Atlanta will give their 2nd rounder to MN and be allowed to keep first round pick. Stay tuned
Their 2nd rounder is pick 43. We sent pick 42 to Houston in the deal to get 23. So basically we recoup our investment in that move for this year. If this happens.
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weimy froob wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am that'd work.
I personally feel very aggrieved for us missing out on the opportunity of giving out a horrible horrible, horible contract, but this will help a little.
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Oriole81 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:54 am
weimy froob wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am that'd work.
I personally feel very aggrieved for us missing out on the opportunity of giving out a horrible horrible, horible contract, but this will help a little.
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Atlanta thinks they are better off with that albatross contract! :beer:
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Oriole81 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:54 am
weimy froob wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am that'd work.
I personally feel very aggrieved for us missing out on the opportunity of giving out a horrible horrible, horible contract, but this will help a little.
I said before, if this stupid little slip of the tongue gets us extra draft equity and that equity allows us to get our franchise quarterback, then it might have been the best thing Kirk ever did for this organization and fanbase.


And that would be hilarious.
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I’m being told it will be a swap of our 4th rounder for their 3rd.
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Sorry if this was covered.. but they had Kirk on the Sunday Night Baseball broadcast last night (the game was in Atlanta).

They basically goaded Kirk into saying Minnesota was loserville USA and how wonderful it is to be in a winner town.

He then freely admitted that it was great to be in a place where he felt everyone was on the same page for once and how it was a dream come true being in Atlanta.

Of course what else was he supposed to say, and I personally believe the Cousins era in Atlanta is going to be very ugly.. but it still stung a little bit.
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Mandatory wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:47 pm Sorry if this was covered.. but they had Kirk on the Sunday Night Baseball broadcast last night (the game was in Atlanta).

They basically goaded Kirk into saying Minnesota was loserville USA and how wonderful it is to be in a winner town.

He then freely admitted that it was great to be in a place where he felt everyone was on the same page for once and how it was a dream come true being in Atlanta.

Of course what else was he supposed to say, and I personally believe the Cousins era in Atlanta is going to be very ugly.. but it still stung a little bit.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:46 pm I’m being told it will be a swap of our 4th rounder for their 3rd.
That is probably more likely than a second or swapping firsts.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:46 pm I’m being told it will be a swap of our 4th rounder for their 3rd.
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Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
nice trade kwesi. kind of makes up for the draft day one a couple of years ago.
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Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
At least when posting this garbage let everyone know it’s a BS account that says wacky shit.

Some here aren’t as savvy to these things.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:44 pm
Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
At least when posting this garbage let everyone know it’s a BS account that says wacky shit.

Some here aren’t as savvy to these things.
why take the run* away Sergeant Rubetube?

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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:44 pm
Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
At least when posting this garbage let everyone know it’s a BS account that says wacky shit.

Some here aren’t as savvy to these things.
Word on the street is that they got this from a very reliable source.
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Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
This is fantastic! :naners:
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William Munny wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:15 pm
Butch Bradford wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
This is fantastic! :naners:
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If we get Falcon's 8th pick, keep it, the 11th and 23rd, PBA, roll with Darnold and lets see what happens.
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#8 and #23 will be swapped. Not #11.
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William Munny wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:15 pm
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This is fantastic! :naners:
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Beetlejuice wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:52 pm I read an article that says the league would force the Falcons to forfeit draft picks. Source said it’s unlikely the Vikings will be compensated.
Why not? The Vikings lost the biggest/best free agent out there, their starting QB
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Night Train wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:05 pm If we get Falcon's 8th pick, keep it, the 11th and 23rd, PBA, roll with Darnold and lets see what happens.
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Let have fun with this.


Say the NFL just gives us the 8. Free and clear. (They won’t, but play along).

According to old school draft value charts, 8+ 11 is 2650 points. Pick 3 is 2200 points. So that trade gives vale of 450 points or equivalent to the 45th pick in the draft (mid-2nd round). Is that enough extra for the QB tax this year?

8+23 Is 2160 points. 40 points shy of the 3, or equivalent to a late 4th round pick. So 8+23+2025 3rd should be enough, not accounting for QB tax.

If you prefer the newer Rich Hill chart, it’s even better for us. 8+11 is 766 points. 3 is 514 for a value of 252 points, or almost exactly the value of pick 22. 8+23 is 651 points, or a value of 137 points; about pick 43 in the second round.

The Rich Hill chart says we should have no problem trading up to 3 with our existing 11 and 23, actually (603 points, still giving 89 points of value; a late second rounder).

But this is all just fun and games for us. The charts mean little when franchise QBs are at stake. But you have to think that if we did somehow get 11 and 8, that we would not need to attach another first to get to 3.
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Can't wait to see what Qwesi does now with THREE first round picks!!
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The draft is 3 days away. They won’t take any picks this year, it will happen next year and will be a mid round pick.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:54 pm The draft is 3 days away. They won’t take any picks this year, it will happen next year and will be a mid round pick.
Last year it happened right before the draft. Literally as the draft began the news broke that the NFL made the Cardinals give the Eagles draft compensation.


My guess is any punishment doled out has already been decided and both parties have been notified. The NFL doesn’t want a bunch of talk about it, so they bury it right before the draft.
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I have to assume that the draft compensation penalty will have to be correlated to the size of the contract so this would be the biggest comp yet.

BUt then, the NFL has always hated the Minnesota franchise.
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If we have 3 1sts we should consider trading down and getting some 2nd day picks so we don't have zero in round 2 and 3
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PurpleValhalla wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pm If we have 3 1sts we should consider trading down and getting some 2nd day picks so we don't have zero in round 2 and 3
Sure. Once we acquire the QB we want first.
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PurpleValhalla wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pm If we have 3 1sts we should consider trading down and getting some 2nd day picks so we don't have zero in round 2 and 3
This draft isn’t great,

I rather use the picks on top end talent.

You are going to have to use at least two of these picks if not all 3 to move into the top 3 if you want Maye anyway. IF I have one one these picks left after getting my QB, i’m drafting the best D player I can get.

We are not getting a 1st round pick from ATL however.
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