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QB poll, help me out here...
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Who you guys want? I've always felt Leary of Maye and idk why. JJ was my preference, but then I hear more about Penix and Rattler and now I'm more unsure.... Help me out here. I'm including Williams and Daniels simply because you never know. Please understand if we even had the chance to get them it would probably mean we would have to give up every meaningful pick for the next two months and/or a plus guy like Addison.
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Either move up for one of the top 3 or Nix and BPA
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Good poll, I'll jump on it shortly. No Nix? Think he could be QB 5. It would take more draft capital on some of those trade ups, but I will vote as is.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:02 pm Who you guys want? I've always felt Leary of Maye and idk why. JJ was my preference, but then I hear more about Penix and Rattler and now I'm more unsure.... Help me out here. I'm including Williams and Daniels simply because you never know. Please understand if we even had the chance to get them it would probably mean we would have to give up every meaningful pick for the next two months and/or a plus guy like Addison.
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Who created this poll and got two first-round picks is not smart
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I think plan A is to move up and get a top guy, probably Maye, but I’m not 100% sure.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
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Agree, with this but I don't see you trading any picks for McCarthyBeef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:24 pm I think plan A is to move up and get a top guy, probably Maye, but I’m not 100% sure.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
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cdr2529 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:36 pmAgree, with this but I don't see you trading any picks for McCarthyBeef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:24 pm I think plan A is to move up and get a top guy, probably Maye, but I’m not 100% sure.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
I don’t know. I think they only trade up for the guy they like and I think that’s Maye. But I don’t really know. I could be wrong.
But I don’t think they trade up for a guy they don’t really like. That would be stupid. I don’t know what they think of McCarthy. They’re being pretty quiet about it.
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I voted for Caleb Williams
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Beef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:39 pmI would be quiet if I were going to trade my 11th and 23rd picks for McCarthy because I believe that is a decision the owners had the right to fire.cdr2529 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:36 pmAgree, with this but I don't see you trading any picks for McCarthyBeef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:24 pm I think plan A is to move up and get a top guy, probably Maye, but I’m not 100% sure.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
I don’t know. I think they only trade up for the guy they like and I think that’s Maye. But I don’t really know. I could be wrong.
But I don’t think they trade up for a guy they don’t really like. That would be stupid. I don’t know what they think of McCarthy. They’re being pretty quiet about it.
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Nix sucks. LolTuck ya in wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:07 pmGood poll, I'll jump on it shortly. No Nix? Think he could be QB 5. It would take more draft capital on some of those trade ups, but I will vote as is.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:02 pm Who you guys want? I've always felt Leary of Maye and idk why. JJ was my preference, but then I hear more about Penix and Rattler and now I'm more unsure.... Help me out here. I'm including Williams and Daniels simply because you never know. Please understand if we even had the chance to get them it would probably mean we would have to give up every meaningful pick for the next two months and/or a plus guy like Addison.
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I think they are only willing to trade up for Maye. If he isn’t there? They stay put with their picks.Beef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:39 pmcdr2529 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:36 pmAgree, with this but I don't see you trading any picks for McCarthyBeef Supreme wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:24 pm I think plan A is to move up and get a top guy, probably Maye, but I’m not 100% sure.
Plan B is to stay put and take Penix.
I loved Penix all year, so I’m okay with either, but would prefer the move up.
I don’t know. I think they only trade up for the guy they like and I think that’s Maye. But I don’t really know. I could be wrong.
But I don’t think they trade up for a guy they don’t really like. That would be stupid. I don’t know what they think of McCarthy. They’re being pretty quiet about it.
I believe the Vikings will draft either Maye or Penix Jr. FUGGIN BOOK IT!
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The only two possible options of those given, is that for Penix and that for Rattler. Williams is not possible. Vikings targets are Maye #1, but it will take #11, #23 and "at least" the 2025 1st to get at #3. McCarthy is target #2. It will take a minimum of #11 and #23 to get him if available at #5. If they need to go to #4, I see them having to pay #11, #23 and likely the 2025 1st round pick. I am not so certain that the Vikings are enamored with Daniels, as he did not play in a pro-style offense, is scrawny, could be RG3 x 2 and it is very possible that his WR's at LSU made him, given both will go 1st round. Penix is intriguing, but he will not do any running in the pros given his injury history and ongoing risk. He has a great arm, but I am waiting for the negative medical eval to be leaked sometime the next couple of weeks. You know that is coming.
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45 Td's, 3 interceptions last year. Tough to blow that off as a fluke. Not saying he's a top 3 option, but could easily see him sneaking into the top 5 drafted Qb's.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:58 pmNix sucks. LolTuck ya in wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:07 pmGood poll, I'll jump on it shortly. No Nix? Think he could be QB 5. It would take more draft capital on some of those trade ups, but I will vote as is.Abe Froman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:02 pm Who you guys want? I've always felt Leary of Maye and idk why. JJ was my preference, but then I hear more about Penix and Rattler and now I'm more unsure.... Help me out here. I'm including Williams and Daniels simply because you never know. Please understand if we even had the chance to get them it would probably mean we would have to give up every meaningful pick for the next two months and/or a plus guy like Addison.
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I'd be okay with JJ, but I rate him lower than the top 3 QBs on the board. The worst case scenario for me is if we get the 5th best QB in the draft at pick 11.
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I took it this poll is not what you think will happen,William Munny wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:43 pm The only two possible options of those given, is that for Penix and that for Rattler. Williams is not possible. Vikings targets are Maye #1, but it will take #11, #23 and "at least" the 2025 1st to get at #3. McCarthy is target #2. It will take a minimum of #11 and #23 to get him if available at #5. If they need to go to #4, I see them having to pay #11, #23 and likely the 2025 1st round pick. I am not so certain that the Vikings are enamored with Daniels, as he did not play in a pro-style offense, is scrawny, could be RG3 x 2 and it is very possible that his WR's at LSU made him, given both will go 1st round. Penix is intriguing, but he will not do any running in the pros given his injury history and ongoing risk. He has a great arm, but I am waiting for the negative medical eval to be leaked sometime the next couple of weeks. You know that is coming.
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Re: QB poll, help me out here...
Not many of the poll options are realistic.
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
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Nice bit. Racist as in his throwing mechanics are gross and he's already had multiple surgeries?Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 am Not many of the poll options are realistic.
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
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The racist comment was a joke obviously.BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:23 amNice bit. Racist as in his throwing mechanics are gross and he's already had multiple surgeries?Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 am Not many of the poll options are realistic.
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
I just wanted to note that almost everyone has Penix as QB6. By everyone, I mean professional draft projectors.
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I kind of got a little bit of sarcasm from it. I like Jayden Daniels because of his athleticism and his rocket arm. He probably isn't a good fit for the Vikings offense though. I don't like Penix because of the injuries and the funky assed throwing motion. The National title game performance turned me off too. Of course he didn't have much help and Michigans defense was obliterating Washingtons O line. Both QBs from the PAC 12 give pause. I feel like they spent the season lighting up poor defenses. Although I also don't like the notion of the Vikings spending high end future picks on someone who is a " prospect". It could set the team back for multiple seasons if the kid doesn't pan out. That makes me flip flop back to a feeling of Penix or Nix as a win at 23 while keeping our top picks.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 amThe racist comment was a joke obviously.BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:23 amNice bit. Racist as in his throwing mechanics are gross and he's already had multiple surgeries?Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 am Not many of the poll options are realistic.
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
I just wanted to note that almost everyone has Penix as QB6. By everyone, I mean professional draft projectors.
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After Caleb, who is your QB2?BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:00 amI kind of got a little bit of sarcasm from it. I like Jayden Daniels because of his athleticism and his rocket arm. He probably isn't a good fit for the Vikings offense though. I don't like Penix because of the injuries and the funky assed throwing motion. The National title game performance turned me off too. Of course he didn't have much help and Michigans defense was obliterating Washingtons O line. Both QBs from the PAC 12 give pause. I feel like they spent the season lighting up poor defenses. Although I also don't like the notion of the Vikings spending high end future picks on someone who is a " prospect". It could set the team back for multiple seasons if the kid doesn't pan out. That makes me flip flop back to a feeling of Penix or Nix as a win at 23 while keeping our top picks.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 amThe racist comment was a joke obviously.BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:23 am
Nice bit. Racist as in his throwing mechanics are gross and he's already had multiple surgeries?
I just wanted to note that almost everyone has Penix as QB6. By everyone, I mean professional draft projectors.
For me, it's Maye with a bullet. I'm just hoping that Washington doesn't take him.
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I’ve noticed several professional draft projectorsDa Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 amThe racist comment was a joke obviously.BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:23 amNice bit. Racist as in his throwing mechanics are gross and he's already had multiple surgeries?Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 am Not many of the poll options are realistic.
And Penix at 23 is something that I see a lot. Considering how many teams need QBs, if Penix is there at 23, shouldn't that tell you something?
(I mean that everyone is racist)
And where is dong?
I just wanted to note that almost everyone has Penix as QB6. By everyone, I mean professional draft projectors.
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There isn’t enough there to make a clear separation from the top 4 and if they all go in the top 5 then I would just see how things go and take Penix. If you can take someone like Nabers at 11 and Penix at 23 that would be major and could give the offense everything they need to win. It would also give leverage and flexibility if JJ plays hardball. Then we would need to spend 3 years building the defense.
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If we would take Penix at 23, who wouldn’t Denver take him at 12 or the raiders take him at 13 or New Orleans take him at 14 or Seattle take him at 16 or the Rams take him at 19?
Assuming top 4 go in the top 5, if we want Penix, we should probably take him at 11.
And if we think he’s worth 23, isn’t he worth 11? These are mid-round picks in a draft that is very top-heavy and then flattens out. If we want defense with the other pick, the guy we get at 23 is going to be more or less of the same tier as the guy we would get at 11.
Assuming top 4 go in the top 5, if we want Penix, we should probably take him at 11.
And if we think he’s worth 23, isn’t he worth 11? These are mid-round picks in a draft that is very top-heavy and then flattens out. If we want defense with the other pick, the guy we get at 23 is going to be more or less of the same tier as the guy we would get at 11.
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I have no clue. All I know is what I've read from the "experts". I hear all of these great things about JJ, Maye, Daniels, then the next day someone else is shitting all over the same guys. I like the size of Maye. I like the potential of JJ and that JJ played in a pro style offense. I don't like that the Vikes may have to offer a ton of draft capital on either one of them. Looks like Maye is their target, so the blind homer in me is convincing myself that if it's Maye then awesome! For the record I threw up a little bit in my mouth when we drafted Teddy.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:11 amAfter Caleb, who is your QB2?BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:00 amI kind of got a little bit of sarcasm from it. I like Jayden Daniels because of his athleticism and his rocket arm. He probably isn't a good fit for the Vikings offense though. I don't like Penix because of the injuries and the funky assed throwing motion. The National title game performance turned me off too. Of course he didn't have much help and Michigans defense was obliterating Washingtons O line. Both QBs from the PAC 12 give pause. I feel like they spent the season lighting up poor defenses. Although I also don't like the notion of the Vikings spending high end future picks on someone who is a " prospect". It could set the team back for multiple seasons if the kid doesn't pan out. That makes me flip flop back to a feeling of Penix or Nix as a win at 23 while keeping our top picks.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:25 am
The racist comment was a joke obviously.
I just wanted to note that almost everyone has Penix as QB6. By everyone, I mean professional draft projectors.
For me, it's Maye with a bullet. I'm just hoping that Washington doesn't take him.
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If those teams take him then you take the next guy or wait a year. Darnold or Mullens could have amazing years if they had Nabers, Addison, JJ and Hockenson to throw to.
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BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:55 amI have no clue. All I know is what I've read from the "experts". I hear all of these great things about JJ, Maye, Daniels, then the next day someone else is shitting all over the same guys. I like the size of Maye. I like the potential of JJ and that JJ played in a pro style offense. I don't like that the Vikes may have to offer a ton of draft capital on either one of them. Looks like Maye is their target, so the blind homer in me is convincing myself that if it's Maye then awesome! For the record I threw up a little bit in my mouth when we drafted Teddy.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:11 amAfter Caleb, who is your QB2?BigInflateable wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:00 am
I kind of got a little bit of sarcasm from it. I like Jayden Daniels because of his athleticism and his rocket arm. He probably isn't a good fit for the Vikings offense though. I don't like Penix because of the injuries and the funky assed throwing motion. The National title game performance turned me off too. Of course he didn't have much help and Michigans defense was obliterating Washingtons O line. Both QBs from the PAC 12 give pause. I feel like they spent the season lighting up poor defenses. Although I also don't like the notion of the Vikings spending high end future picks on someone who is a " prospect". It could set the team back for multiple seasons if the kid doesn't pan out. That makes me flip flop back to a feeling of Penix or Nix as a win at 23 while keeping our top picks.
For me, it's Maye with a bullet. I'm just hoping that Washington doesn't take him.
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Championship teams build from the inside out. Speilman always built the opposite. Always high priced skill players. WRs and CBs. And that doesn't work. You can have Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. If the QBs can't hit them or have time to throw to them, forget it.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:55 am If those teams take him then you take the next guy or wait a year. Darnold or Mullens could have amazing years if they had Nabers, Addison, JJ and Hockenson to throw to.
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I’m not seeing Kwesi doing anything different. And building a team doesn’t mean highly drafted players on the line. It just means you need to commit to a particular scheme and find role players to fit in it. That’s why Green Bay has like 3 decades of success. They have run essentially the same type of offense and they have found talent on the OL that fits what they want. And if a player goes down they have a replacement that can step in.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:32 pmChampionship teams build from the inside out. Speilman always built the opposite. Always high priced skill players. WRs and CBs. And that doesn't work. You can have Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. If the QBs can't hit them or have time to throw to them, forget it.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:55 am If those teams take him then you take the next guy or wait a year. Darnold or Mullens could have amazing years if they had Nabers, Addison, JJ and Hockenson to throw to.
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Exactly.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:37 pmI’m not seeing Kwesi doing anything different. And building a team doesn’t mean highly drafted players on the line. It just means you need to commit to a particular scheme and find role players to fit in it. That’s why Green Bay has like 3 decades of success. They have run essentially the same type of offense and they have found talent on the OL that fits what they want. And if a player goes down they have a replacement that can step in.Da Gas Man's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:32 pmChampionship teams build from the inside out. Speilman always built the opposite. Always high priced skill players. WRs and CBs. And that doesn't work. You can have Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. If the QBs can't hit them or have time to throw to them, forget it.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:55 am If those teams take him then you take the next guy or wait a year. Darnold or Mullens could have amazing years if they had Nabers, Addison, JJ and Hockenson to throw to.
And let's not forget as well that Jerry Rice spent his career playing for a 3rd rd QB (Montana) and then a QB who's previous team considered him a bust (Young.)
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