R403 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:09 pm
On espn radio
It is a believed Minnesota is willing to trade up to get Jaden Daniels or Drake Maye using three first round picks, but they do not see JJ McCarthy in that same light and will not give up assets to get him.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
R403 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:09 pm
On espn radio
It is a believed Minnesota is willing to trade up to get Jaden Daniels or Drake Maye using three first round picks, but they do not see JJ McCarthy in that same light and will not give up assets to get him.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
I pray they are not that stupid! I am not even trading at all to get him
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
I pray they are not that stupid! I am not even trading at all to get him
I mean it’s the Vikings. I just get the feeling it will be shit QB. We have never had a top prospect or top young QB since close to the beginning of this franchise.
Could a guy like JJ, Penix, Nix etc end up being really good? Sure. That group is still on the level of the Teddy Turdwaters, David Carr, Crapolo etc caliber of QB. You know, a guy who MIGHT be starting caliber if all goes right but isn’t good enough to ever get you over the top. Then in a few years you either start this process all over, go sign a retread or give starting money to a mid level QB.
I can’t take anymore of that. I haven’t been truly excited for this team since the Favre era and possibly 2018 but that was short lived.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
R403 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:09 pm
On espn radio
It is a believed Minnesota is willing to trade up to get Jaden Daniels or Drake Maye using three first round picks, but they do not see JJ McCarthy in that same light and will not give up assets to get him.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
Oh my gosh there’s no way they’re giving up three first round draft picks for that turd. I don’t even think he’s the fourth best quarterback in the draft, nor does Kurt Warner. I have Penix and Nix ahead of JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy will be a solid backup in the NFL. Unfortunately, if some idiot GM listens to the mock drafters, they will be fired for selecting this turd. Have yet to hear, or read one positive thing about JJ McCarthy from former NFL quarterbacks and that’s whose opinion I trust the most they played the position. JJ McCarthy was considered at best A second round draft going into the national championship game and he shit the bed against a bad Washington D. What did he do to move up?? lol the hype is coming from his camp, not NFL people.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
Oh my gosh there’s no way they’re giving up three first round draft picks for that turd. I don’t even think he’s the fourth best quarterback in the draft, nor does Kurt Warner. I have Penix and Nix ahead of JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy will be a solid backup in the NFL. Unfortunately, if some idiot GM listens to the mock drafters, they will be fired for selecting this turd. Have yet to hear, or read one positive thing about JJ McCarthy from former NFL quarterbacks and that’s whose opinion I trust the most they played the position. JJ McCarthy was considered at best A second round draft going into the national championship game and he shit the bed against a bad Washington D. What did he do to move up?? lol the hype is coming from his camp, not NFL people.
I agree but we are desperate and EVERYONE knows it.
The whole entire talk of this draft even nationally is us moving up for a QB. We ARE the story of this draft.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
There is no way they are trading 3 1sts for JJ.
Oh my gosh there’s no way they’re giving up three first round draft picks for that turd. I don’t even think he’s the fourth best quarterback in the draft, nor does Kurt Warner. I have Penix and Nix ahead of JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy will be a solid backup in the NFL. Unfortunately, if some idiot GM listens to the mock drafters, they will be fired for selecting this turd. Have yet to hear, or read one positive thing about JJ McCarthy from former NFL quarterbacks and that’s whose opinion I trust the most they played the position. JJ McCarthy was considered at best A second round draft going into the national championship game and he shit the bed against a bad Washington D. What did he do to move up?? lol the hype is coming from his camp, not NFL people.
I agree but we are desperate and EVERYONE knows it.
The whole entire talk of this draft even nationally is us moving up for a QB. We ARE the story of this draft.
I wouldn’t give up three first round draft picks for any of the quarterback in the draft including Williams. Remember, Mitchell Torbinski was the second pic in the draft! Lol The hit rate is about 20% — simply not worth the risk. Stay at 11 and 23.
Sam Darnold was the third pick in the draft who saying in the right system He can’t be an above average quarterback.
For crying out loud Pat Mahomes was the 11th pick the draft and had a losing college record.
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Depends where you think we will be picking... but I will say Maye isn't worth taking high either... AND JJ might be on some limited level but not worth the cost of a trade to get there IMO.
Versus who else do you want to draft? That is the #1 reason I would trade up to get either Maye or McCarthy. Both are substantialy better prospects than the players available at 11 and 23. Maybe if this draft had several high quality players at CB, Edge, DT. But there really isn't anyone at those positions that are at that level.
Its a risk with a big downside. But that is the opportunity in the 2024 draft that might not be available in 2025 or onwards. PLus I would rather do it now at a mediocre spot than tank tank tank to the top of the draft.
If it only costs 11 and 23 sure, but I wouldn't trade a future 1st for any QB we are realistically talking about. Moreover we probably don't plan on starting a QB we would take, meaning we might just tank, tank, tank...as I don't think we will be very good this year. This is why I wouldn't trade a 2025 first.
Now, say we can move up for 11 and 23 to get who we want, next year if we are really bad we can trade that pick at the least, but there is no value in trading knowing this season will be a likely struggle, that we won't be starting the player we pick and you loose the primary benefit of being bad. It probably makes it worse this is a team that has middled for years and never really had the benefit of a top pick should that happen. It is definitely the type of move that gets you fired if you are wrong and sucks the air out of the room from a marketing perspective. So, yes it is a risk should it not pan out.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
Versus who else do you want to draft? That is the #1 reason I would trade up to get either Maye or McCarthy. Both are substantialy better prospects than the players available at 11 and 23. Maybe if this draft had several high quality players at CB, Edge, DT. But there really isn't anyone at those positions that are at that level.
Its a risk with a big downside. But that is the opportunity in the 2024 draft that might not be available in 2025 or onwards. PLus I would rather do it now at a mediocre spot than tank tank tank to the top of the draft.
If it only costs 11 and 23 sure, but I wouldn't trade a future 1st for any QB we are realistically talking about. Moreover we probably don't plan on starting a QB we would take, meaning we might just tank, tank, tank...as I don't think we will be very good this year. This is why I wouldn't trade a 2025 first.
Now, say we can move up for 11 and 23 to get who we want, next year if we are really bad we can trade that pick at the least, but there is no value in trading knowing this season will be a likely struggle, that we won't be starting the player we pick and you loose the primary benefit of being bad. It probably makes it worse this is a team that has middled for years and never really had the benefit of a top pick should that happen. It is definitely the type of move that gets you fired if you are wrong and sucks the air out of the room from a marketing perspective. So, yes it is a risk should it not pan out.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
For the JJ McCarthy ball suckers give it up. There is no way the Vikings are dumb enough to give up three first draft picks for that guy you can forget about it. It simply preposterous.
If it only costs 11 and 23 sure, but I wouldn't trade a future 1st for any QB we are realistically talking about. Moreover we probably don't plan on starting a QB we would take, meaning we might just tank, tank, tank...as I don't think we will be very good this year. This is why I wouldn't trade a 2025 first.
Now, say we can move up for 11 and 23 to get who we want, next year if we are really bad we can trade that pick at the least, but there is no value in trading knowing this season will be a likely struggle, that we won't be starting the player we pick and you loose the primary benefit of being bad. It probably makes it worse this is a team that has middled for years and never really had the benefit of a top pick should that happen. It is definitely the type of move that gets you fired if you are wrong and sucks the air out of the room from a marketing perspective. So, yes it is a risk should it not pan out.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
Pssst
I would not take anything this guy says too seriously he compared JJ McCarthy Skillset to Josh Allen !! Lolololo
Seriously when he typed that I had to go back and read it three times I thought my eyes were deceiving me! Lol
R403 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:09 pm
On espn radio
It is a believed Minnesota is willing to trade up to get Jaden Daniels or Drake Maye using three first round picks, but they do not see JJ McCarthy in that same light and will not give up assets to get him.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts that if Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-3, then the Kwesi/Vikes will pay 3 firsts to trade up to get McCarthy.
Has any team ever given up 3 1sts for the 4th QB in a draft? That’s fucking terrible. Even both 1sts to move up is too much for JJ imo but that is at least realistic.
If it only costs 11 and 23 sure, but I wouldn't trade a future 1st for any QB we are realistically talking about. Moreover we probably don't plan on starting a QB we would take, meaning we might just tank, tank, tank...as I don't think we will be very good this year. This is why I wouldn't trade a 2025 first.
Now, say we can move up for 11 and 23 to get who we want, next year if we are really bad we can trade that pick at the least, but there is no value in trading knowing this season will be a likely struggle, that we won't be starting the player we pick and you loose the primary benefit of being bad. It probably makes it worse this is a team that has middled for years and never really had the benefit of a top pick should that happen. It is definitely the type of move that gets you fired if you are wrong and sucks the air out of the room from a marketing perspective. So, yes it is a risk should it not pan out.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
The great thing is everyone can have an opinion. For example, you liked Trey Lance.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
Pssst
I would not take anything this guy says too seriously he compared JJ McCarthy Skillset to Josh Allen !! Lolololo
Seriously when he typed that I had to go back and read it three times I thought my eyes were deceiving me! Lol
Best arm talent in the draft with excellent mobility. Definitely Josh Allen as a comp.
If Sam stays healthy with this lineup we could have a strong probability of 7-9 wins 9(I havent really looked at the schedule). That puts us right in the same draft range we are in now in a draft that almost certainly will not have 4 potential franchise QBs, another like Penix that is a fringe level potential. Not every draft has 5 qbs I would consider drafting in the first round.
AND AGAIN, if after 4 quarterbacks were selected inside the top 10 (maybe even top 6) there was some stud player at a position of need it might be a different story. But all of the top end talent in this draft is at QB, WR, and OT. I can see a scenario in which we decide to take a OT if we strike out at QB because that would potentially be BPA and going forward we probably need to replace Brian ONeill.
But is that the best scenario? It isn't in my book. I want one of the franchise guys. The shot is there, take it.
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
The great thing is everyone can have an opinion. For example, you liked Trey Lance.
I liked Trey Lance in that group of QBs. I never liked Lance at the price they paid and I also never thought he was probably going to turn into a superstar. I did however like him more than Jones. That whole QB draft was weak.
I would take Maye over Williams. We will see what happens. I’ve been wrong about many QBs and right about many. GMs don’t even know how to get the position right most times.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
Pssst
I would not take anything this guy says too seriously he compared JJ McCarthy Skillset to Josh Allen !! Lolololo
Seriously when he typed that I had to go back and read it three times I thought my eyes were deceiving me! Lol
Best arm talent in the draft with excellent mobility. Definitely Josh Allen as a comp.
Every single person on the Rich Eisen show shares this sentiment. They absolutely love him. DH has put all of his eggs in the Kurt Warner basket and nothing else. You'll never change his mind. They were discussing that Tom Brady loves him too. Maybe that's just a Michigan alum thing?
I would not take anything this guy says too seriously he compared JJ McCarthy Skillset to Josh Allen !! Lolololo
Seriously when he typed that I had to go back and read it three times I thought my eyes were deceiving me! Lol
Best arm talent in the draft with excellent mobility. Definitely Josh Allen as a comp.
Every single person on the Rich Eisen show shares this sentiment. They absolutely love him. DH has put all of his eggs in the Kurt Warner basket and nothing else. You'll never change his mind. They were discussing that Tom Brady loves him too. Maybe that's just a Michigan alum thing?
Rich Eisen show lol
Well, Jim Harbaugh did say he was the best quarterback in the draft lol
If so, do you think Jim Harbaugh would trade Justin Herbert for the rights to JJ McCarthy? Lololololo
Don’t be ridiculous. This guy is a back up NFL quarterback Chad Henne 2.0.
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I want one of the franchise guys too…. There are only 3 of them though.
The great thing is everyone can have an opinion. For example, you liked Trey Lance.
I liked Trey Lance in that group of QBs. I never liked Lance at the price they paid and I also never thought he was probably going to turn into a superstar. I did however like him more than Jones. That whole QB draft was weak.
I would take Maye over Williams. We will see what happens. I’ve been wrong about many QBs and right about many. GMs don’t even know how to get the position right most times.
There are things to like about Maye for sure, but he played pretty bad last season. Very inconsistent and very inaccurate. Terrible footwork and lots of happy feet. I can see that there are NFL scouts who would not draft Maye. I think his problems are correctable and you have a prototypical sized NFL QB at 6-4, 230 with good arm strength. I think Maye's mobility is overrated because he isn't elusive and quick, and takes a long time to build up momentum. And he will take some vicious hits in the NFL if he runs.
The great thing is everyone can have an opinion. For example, you liked Trey Lance.
I liked Trey Lance in that group of QBs. I never liked Lance at the price they paid and I also never thought he was probably going to turn into a superstar. I did however like him more than Jones. That whole QB draft was weak.
I would take Maye over Williams. We will see what happens. I’ve been wrong about many QBs and right about many. GMs don’t even know how to get the position right most times.
There are things to like about Maye for sure, but he played pretty bad last season. Very inconsistent and very inaccurate. Terrible footwork and lots of happy feet. I can see that there are NFL scouts who would not draft Maye. I think his problems are correctable and you have a prototypical sized NFL QB at 6-4, 230 with good arm strength. I think Maye's mobility is overrated because he isn't elusive and quick, and takes a long time to build up momentum. And he will take some vicious hits in the NFL if he runs.
You compared JJ McCarthy skill set to Josh Allen no one really puts any stock in your opinion
The great thing is everyone can have an opinion. For example, you liked Trey Lance.
I liked Trey Lance in that group of QBs. I never liked Lance at the price they paid and I also never thought he was probably going to turn into a superstar. I did however like him more than Jones. That whole QB draft was weak.
I would take Maye over Williams. We will see what happens. I’ve been wrong about many QBs and right about many. GMs don’t even know how to get the position right most times.
There are things to like about Maye for sure, but he played pretty bad last season. Very inconsistent and very inaccurate. Terrible footwork and lots of happy feet. I can see that there are NFL scouts who would not draft Maye. I think his problems are correctable and you have a prototypical sized NFL QB at 6-4, 230 with good arm strength. I think Maye's mobility is overrated because he isn't elusive and quick, and takes a long time to build up momentum. And he will take some vicious hits in the NFL if he runs.
KOC is rumored to think he can fix his footwork. The ceiling is massively higher with Maye than JJ imo if you can fix it and that’s why I have him much higher.
A lot of the same things being said about Maye were said about Allen and Herbert also.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
So, why is McCarthy a potential bust candidate? He was surrounded by a stellar supporting cast at Michigan that allowed him to be a high-end game manager.
It brings up questions about what McCarthy can accomplish at the NFL level, especially if he isn't surrounded by as strong of a running game or blocking unit as he had in college. Many NFL scouts question whether he has the arm strength to make all the throws necessary.
I liked Trey Lance in that group of QBs. I never liked Lance at the price they paid and I also never thought he was probably going to turn into a superstar. I did however like him more than Jones. That whole QB draft was weak.
I would take Maye over Williams. We will see what happens. I’ve been wrong about many QBs and right about many. GMs don’t even know how to get the position right most times.
There are things to like about Maye for sure, but he played pretty bad last season. Very inconsistent and very inaccurate. Terrible footwork and lots of happy feet. I can see that there are NFL scouts who would not draft Maye. I think his problems are correctable and you have a prototypical sized NFL QB at 6-4, 230 with good arm strength. I think Maye's mobility is overrated because he isn't elusive and quick, and takes a long time to build up momentum. And he will take some vicious hits in the NFL if he runs.
KOC is rumored to think he can fix his footwork. The ceiling is massively higher with Maye than JJ imo if you can fix it and that’s why I have him much higher.
A lot of the same things being said about Maye were said about Allen and Herbert also.
Josh Allen was a sub 55% thrower at Wyoming. He was pure upside pick.
And I don't see Maye's upside any higher than McCarthy's if you fix the couple of issues with JJ. JJ McCarthy is the best QB in this draft for the throws that NFL teams make. If you want a QB that can attack the middle of the field from the numbers in, and that is the bulk of the most important throws, JJ McCarthy is better than all of these guys. You are taking Williams and Daniels ahead of him because they have those elite non-throwing skills that are really, really rare. But I take JJ 3rd and Maye a close 4th behind him.
There are things to like about Maye for sure, but he played pretty bad last season. Very inconsistent and very inaccurate. Terrible footwork and lots of happy feet. I can see that there are NFL scouts who would not draft Maye. I think his problems are correctable and you have a prototypical sized NFL QB at 6-4, 230 with good arm strength. I think Maye's mobility is overrated because he isn't elusive and quick, and takes a long time to build up momentum. And he will take some vicious hits in the NFL if he runs.
KOC is rumored to think he can fix his footwork. The ceiling is massively higher with Maye than JJ imo if you can fix it and that’s why I have him much higher.
A lot of the same things being said about Maye were said about Allen and Herbert also.
Josh Allen was a sub 55% thrower at Wyoming. He was pure upside pick.
And I don't see Maye's upside any higher than McCarthy's if you fix the couple of issues with JJ. JJ McCarthy is the best QB in this draft for the throws that NFL teams make. If you want a QB that can attack the middle of the field from the numbers in, and that is the bulk of the most important throws, JJ McCarthy is better than all of these guys. You are taking Williams and Daniels ahead of him because they have those elite non-throwing skills that are really, really rare. But I take JJ 3rd and Maye a close 4th behind him.
D_H wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:11 pm
So, why is McCarthy a potential bust candidate? He was surrounded by a stellar supporting cast at Michigan that allowed him to be a high-end game manager.
It brings up questions about what McCarthy can accomplish at the NFL level, especially if he isn't surrounded by as strong of a running game or blocking unit as he had in college. Many NFL scouts question whether he has the arm strength to make all the throws necessary.
And this team is never going to be a team that leans on the running game as it’s bread and butter under KOC. Hell, the first couple seasons so far they have had no clue on how to use a running game and the QB here is asked to chuck it 30+ a game. You are going to need to be more than a game manager in this offense.
I think JJs ceiling is a top end game manager with the potential to be a starter. I think the Alex Smith comp that you see flying around is pretty spot on.
That doesn’t do anything for me. At least trading up for it anyways.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
D_H wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:11 pm
So, why is McCarthy a potential bust candidate? He was surrounded by a stellar supporting cast at Michigan that allowed him to be a high-end game manager.
It brings up questions about what McCarthy can accomplish at the NFL level, especially if he isn't surrounded by as strong of a running game or blocking unit as he had in college. Many NFL scouts question whether he has the arm strength to make all the throws necessary.
And this team is never going to be a team that leans on the running game as it’s bread and butter under KOC. Hell, the first couple seasons so far they have had no clue on how to use a running game and the QB here is asked to chuck it 30+ a game. You are going to need to be more than a game manager in this offense.
I think JJs ceiling is a top end game manager with the potential to be a starter. I think the Alex Smith comp that you see flying around is pretty spot on.
That doesn’t do anything for me. At least trading up for it anyways.
