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Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:46 pm i'm going to extend kwesi a little more rope after making the right decision on kirk. now finish the job by getting your QB in the draft.
Hopefully the Wilfs documented how close he actually got, because that Cousins deal is ridiculous.
They don't get that high unless Kwesi was pretty far down the path as well.
i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.
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weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:59 pm
Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:46 pm i'm going to extend kwesi a little more rope after making the right decision on kirk. now finish the job by getting your QB in the draft.
Hopefully the Wilfs documented how close he actually got, because that Cousins deal is ridiculous.
They don't get that high unless Kwesi was pretty far down the path as well.
i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.
If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
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Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:14 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:59 pm
Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pm

Hopefully the Wilfs documented how close he actually got, because that Cousins deal is ridiculous.
They don't get that high unless Kwesi was pretty far down the path as well.
i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.
If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
i have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though. :coolio:
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weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pm
Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:14 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:59 pm

i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.
If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
i have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though. :coolio:
I too don't know and I don't expect we will ever know.
That's why I said though that the Wilfs sure as hell better know.
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weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:36 am
I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
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Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:36 am
I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
bringing more excitement than if he signed kirk to a 90 million dollar two year contract guaranteed. definitely looking to put his stamp on the franchise now.
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Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:36 am
I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm
Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:36 am
I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
Extend him Now! This is awesome!
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm
Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am

I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
Extend him Now! This is awesome!
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
Extend him Now! This is awesome!
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm
Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:36 am
I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
Yeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.
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mlhouse wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:23 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm
Hector wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:47 am

I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
Yeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.
Completely forgettable after laying a turd in the 1st round at home to an ass Giants team.

At the end of the day we blew it up. Would have rather got a year jump on it.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:26 pm
mlhouse wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:23 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm

We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
Yeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.
Completely forgettable after laying a turd in the 1st round at home to an ass Giants team.

At the end of the day we blew it up. Would have rather got a year jump on it.
Even though it was alot of luck and returned really nothing tangible, I'm still of the opinion that the wins that season and last season, all added up into the KOC culture that should in the end pay off with much more. They managed to get a decent draft pick but still retain the glow of being a good team with just a couple missing parts.
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weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:50 pm
Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"? :thinking: :lol:

Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
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Nightfly wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:50 pm
Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"? :thinking: :lol:

Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.

If had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
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cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pm
Nightfly wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:50 pm
Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"? :thinking: :lol:

Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.

If had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.
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weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pm
cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pm
Nightfly wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pm

Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"? :thinking: :lol:

Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.

If we had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.
I have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.

I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.

I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.

Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
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cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pm

I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.

Perfectly explains why he failed in primetime, playoffs and vs the better teams, but was a stat superstar otherwise in regular season.
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cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pm
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pm
cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pm

Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.

If we had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.
I have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.

I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.

I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.

Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
Have things changed so much that Packer fans are to believed about anything? :shock:
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Kwesi will end up trading both 1st for five 2nd rounders and a 3rd.
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William Munny wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:27 pm
cunningham wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pm
weimy froob wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pm

OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.
I have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.

I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.

I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.

Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
Have things changed so much that Packer fans are to believed about anything? :shock:
Sounds like that packer fan is regurgitating information that has been spoon fed to him.
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Kwesi will end up trading both 1st for five 2nd rounders and a 3rd.
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weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pm
Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:14 pm
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:59 pm

i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.
If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
i have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though. :coolio:
How funny would it be if KOC and Kwesi simply helped Kirk get his big ATL payday by playing along with all fully knowing no new deal would come. Makes sense in a cut throat business approach. 😄 . Gets Kirk his money and removes ATL from the QB chase as well as cap purgatory. 4D chess ya’ll!
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minnemike wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:25 am
weimy froob wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pm
Oriole81 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:14 pm

If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
i have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though. :coolio:
How funny would it be if KOC and Kwesi simply helped Kirk get his big ATL payday by playing along with all fully knowing no new deal would come. Makes sense in a cut throat business approach. 😄 . Gets Kirk his money and removes ATL from the QB chase as well as cap purgatory. 4D chess ya’ll!
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Dianna Russini is reporting that Kwesi is on the hot seat. She makes it sound like Wilfs weren’t all in on letting Cousins go.

https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/ ... -draft/amp
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I'm glad that Kwesi is going to be held accountable instead of given free reign
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Letting Kirk go is a plus in my book. But he’s got to get a guy in this draft or it’s a failure.
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Every GM that didn't win the Superbowl last year is on the f-ing hot seat.
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