i think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.Oriole81 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pmHopefully the Wilfs documented how close he actually got, because that Cousins deal is ridiculous.weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:46 pm i'm going to extend kwesi a little more rope after making the right decision on kirk. now finish the job by getting your QB in the draft.
They don't get that high unless Kwesi was pretty far down the path as well.
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If you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:59 pmi think kirk is an excellent contract poker player.Oriole81 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:56 pmHopefully the Wilfs documented how close he actually got, because that Cousins deal is ridiculous.weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:46 pm i'm going to extend kwesi a little more rope after making the right decision on kirk. now finish the job by getting your QB in the draft.
They don't get that high unless Kwesi was pretty far down the path as well.
It's just "no" and walk away.
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i have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though.Oriole81 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:14 pmIf you draw your line in the sand, then it shouldn't matter how good of a poker player you're playing against.
It's just "no" and walk away.
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I too don't know and I don't expect we will ever know.weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pmi have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though.
That's why I said though that the Wilfs sure as hell better know.
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I'm not sure why Houston took that offer. As of right now, Kwesi is on fire this off season. .
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We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pmExtend him Now! This is awesome!
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Extend him Now! This is awesome!Hector wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pmSergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pmExtend him Now! This is awesome!
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Yeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pmWe are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
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Completely forgettable after laying a turd in the 1st round at home to an ass Giants team.mlhouse wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:23 pmYeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pmWe are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
At the end of the day we blew it up. Would have rather got a year jump on it.
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Even though it was alot of luck and returned really nothing tangible, I'm still of the opinion that the wins that season and last season, all added up into the KOC culture that should in the end pay off with much more. They managed to get a decent draft pick but still retain the glow of being a good team with just a couple missing parts.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:26 pmCompletely forgettable after laying a turd in the 1st round at home to an ass Giants team.mlhouse wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:23 pmYeah that fucking 13 win season sucked.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm
We are finally seeing this man’s vision. Not the bullshit competitive rebuild the Wilfs forced the first couple of years.
At the end of the day we blew it up. Would have rather got a year jump on it.
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Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"?
Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
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Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.Nightfly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pmKirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"?
Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
If had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
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OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.Nightfly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pmKirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"?
Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
If had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
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I have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.weimy froob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pmOT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.Nightfly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:01 pm
Kirk "holds a special place in Vikings history"?
Whether or not their disappointing (or no better than mediocre) run over the last six seasons is all Cousins' fault, there is nothing special about this period in Vikings history. Only one North title in a sport with 4-team divisions. Only reached the divisional round once. No NFCC appearances.
If we had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.
I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.
Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
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Perfectly explains why he failed in primetime, playoffs and vs the better teams, but was a stat superstar otherwise in regular season.cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pm
I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.
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Have things changed so much that Packer fans are to believed about anything?cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pmI have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.weimy froob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pmOT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:12 pm
Yeah, mediocrity is OK if you are getting better. Perpetual mediocrity is boring.
If we had a bad season we'd get better draft picks, but to be a little better than .500 every year was nothing special. I had more fun the Keenum year than most of the last 6 seasons of Cousins.
I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.
I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.
Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
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Kwesi will end up trading both 1st for five 2nd rounders and a 3rd.
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Sounds like that packer fan is regurgitating information that has been spoon fed to him.William Munny wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:27 pmHave things changed so much that Packer fans are to believed about anything?cunningham wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 pmI have felt that way. I know he never did jack after here, but neither did Shurmur. My feeling from back then is sometimes an offensive coordinator and quarterback find success together. KOC with Kirk last season found a way to win, but the margin was too close this year and the offense struggled.weimy froob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:57 pm
OT: the keenum year was better than any of the kirk years. hope that helps.
I asked a few Packer fans what they think about Kirk. They all said if you pressure him he folds. I think we were not being honest and some here constantly over-blamed the offensive line. The reality is that good teams could shut Kirk down with pressure. A guy like Keenum could make stuff up on the fly and find ways to win.
I had fun watching Keenum play that year. I had fun watching Teddy play and improve those two years. I didn't much care for Bradford or Cousins. They both had arms, but often would get shut down. Bradford more than Kirk. That last Chicago game where Bradford came back in was one of the weirdest games I ever watched. He looked like Hall getting totally shut down.
Keenum was a gunslinger. I'm sure he drove coaches nuts, but he found ways to extend drives. I miss that.
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Kwesi will end up trading both 1st for five 2nd rounders and a 3rd.
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How funny would it be if KOC and Kwesi simply helped Kirk get his big ATL payday by playing along with all fully knowing no new deal would come. Makes sense in a cut throat business approach. . Gets Kirk his money and removes ATL from the QB chase as well as cap purgatory. 4D chess ya’ll!weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pmi have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though.
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Diabolical!minnemike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:25 amHow funny would it be if KOC and Kwesi simply helped Kirk get his big ATL payday by playing along with all fully knowing no new deal would come. Makes sense in a cut throat business approach. . Gets Kirk his money and removes ATL from the QB chase as well as cap purgatory. 4D chess ya’ll!weimy froob wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:59 pmi have a hard time believing that the vikings offer was ever close enough for kirk to think about staying. he played his cards right to get that falcons offer though.
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Dianna Russini is reporting that Kwesi is on the hot seat. She makes it sound like Wilfs weren’t all in on letting Cousins go.
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I'm glad that Kwesi is going to be held accountable instead of given free reign
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Letting Kirk go is a plus in my book. But he’s got to get a guy in this draft or it’s a failure.
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Every GM that didn't win the Superbowl last year is on the f-ing hot seat.
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