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This mock just posted on Yahoo. I can't believe we'd take McCarthy over Daniels...

Holy balls if this team trades up to #5 and takes JJ over Daniels, I’ll be close to done.

[cdr2529]

I will not be close I will be done

[weimy froob]

Yates: J.J. McCarthy will be most polarizing NFL draft prospect. Field Yates delves into why J.J. McCarthy is the most challenging prospect to assess in this draft class.

[RubeTube]

I will not be close I will be done

I’ll still watch but I’m going to try not to come to any message boards and read fans. I can’t take the homers when this guy is a failure saying he’s going to come around and we just need this and that when the guy throws for 19 tds and 10 picks.

The Ponder era was absolutely insufferable with the homers and we still have some around here pining to bring Turdwater back.

Remember when Spielman brainwashed the homers to think Matt Kalil was what Ponder needed to turn the corner? Forget the fact most of us saw he couldn’t throw a football.

I mean we had people here who just couldn’t believe Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball wasn’t getting his shot. Imagine when the draft pick is a high one.

[Butch Bradford]

This mock just posted on Yahoo. I can't believe we'd take McCarthy over Daniels...

Maybe they think that McCarthy is a better fit in KOC's offense?

Maybe, but KOC throws the most of any coach in the entire NFL. I will trust their judgement to a point.

I was disappointed how last season ended. Dobbs got worse each week, Hall looked worse in his 2nd start than the first, and Mullens was allowed to throw for 300 yards despite being a turnover machine. Kirk looked good in KOC year 1, but in year two Osborn and Mattison dropped more balls than a 1970 train porno.

Maybe it was a sophomore slump, and maybe JJ is young enough to not be close to his ceiling, but I had Daniels as the second best of the 3. Guess the top 3 should have participated more in the combine.

10-4.

Good post.

[weimy froob]

here's a mock that the sergeant will be relieved to see. the thing about JJ is there isn't a lot of tape--but there's plenty to show that he can make the throws. (this probably should have been put in the other thread--but this one's been the talker today. i think there's a typo and he thinks daniels is going #2--but i didn't see his mock. just this snippet.)

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports: No. 3 to the New England Patriots
Wilson has Williams and Maye going No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, and made the bold prediction that McCarthy will go higher than Maye, who checks in No. 5 to the Minnesota Vikings, who he predicts will trade up to the spot.

“J.J. McCarthy might be one of the most polarizing players in this class, and I’ll admit it, I was skeptical that he was worthy of a first-round pick,” Wilson wrote. “It’s not because he isn’t talented (his athleticism and arm strength are impressive), but because he wasn’t asked to do a lot in Michigan’s offense. But go back and watch his throws on third down and 6 to 10 yards to go: he completed 73% of his attempts — many of them NFL throws — with 5 touchdowns and no turnovers.

“We also talked to him at the combine and the charisma and leadership just ooze off him. And I get it, you might think that we got caught up in the moment, but I’ll just say this: last year when we spoke to C.J. Stroud at the combine, those very same qualities were blindingly obvious in person, and it certainly didn’t hurt his cause during a historic rookie season.”

[weimy froob]

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yep.

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[Oriole81]

here's a mock that the sergeant will be relieved to see. the thing about JJ is there isn't a lot of tape--but there's plenty to show that he can make the throws. (this probably should have been put in the other thread--but this one's been the talker today. i think there's a typo and he thinks daniels is going #2--but i didn't see his mock. just this snippet.)

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports: No. 3 to the New England Patriots
Wilson has Williams and Maye going No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, and made the bold prediction that McCarthy will go higher than Maye, who checks in No. 5 to the Minnesota Vikings, who he predicts will trade up to the spot.

“J.J. McCarthy might be one of the most polarizing players in this class, and I’ll admit it, I was skeptical that he was worthy of a first-round pick,” Wilson wrote. “It’s not because he isn’t talented (his athleticism and arm strength are impressive), but because he wasn’t asked to do a lot in Michigan’s offense. But go back and watch his throws on third down and 6 to 10 yards to go: he completed 73% of his attempts — many of them NFL throws — with 5 touchdowns and no turnovers.

“We also talked to him at the combine and the charisma and leadership just ooze off him. And I get it, you might think that we got caught up in the moment, but I’ll just say this: last year when we spoke to C.J. Stroud at the combine, those very same qualities were blindingly obvious in person, and it certainly didn’t hurt his cause during a historic rookie season.”

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

[RubeTube]

here's a mock that the sergeant will be relieved to see. the thing about JJ is there isn't a lot of tape--but there's plenty to show that he can make the throws. (this probably should have been put in the other thread--but this one's been the talker today. i think there's a typo and he thinks daniels is going #2--but i didn't see his mock. just this snippet.)

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports: No. 3 to the New England Patriots
Wilson has Williams and Maye going No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, and made the bold prediction that McCarthy will go higher than Maye, who checks in No. 5 to the Minnesota Vikings, who he predicts will trade up to the spot.

“J.J. McCarthy might be one of the most polarizing players in this class, and I’ll admit it, I was skeptical that he was worthy of a first-round pick,” Wilson wrote. “It’s not because he isn’t talented (his athleticism and arm strength are impressive), but because he wasn’t asked to do a lot in Michigan’s offense. But go back and watch his throws on third down and 6 to 10 yards to go: he completed 73% of his attempts — many of them NFL throws — with 5 touchdowns and no turnovers.

“We also talked to him at the combine and the charisma and leadership just ooze off him. And I get it, you might think that we got caught up in the moment, but I’ll just say this: last year when we spoke to C.J. Stroud at the combine, those very same qualities were blindingly obvious in person, and it certainly didn’t hurt his cause during a historic rookie season.”

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

[hategreenticemase]

here's a mock that the sergeant will be relieved to see. the thing about JJ is there isn't a lot of tape--but there's plenty to show that he can make the throws. (this probably should have been put in the other thread--but this one's been the talker today. i think there's a typo and he thinks daniels is going #2--but i didn't see his mock. just this snippet.)

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports: No. 3 to the New England Patriots
Wilson has Williams and Maye going No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, and made the bold prediction that McCarthy will go higher than Maye, who checks in No. 5 to the Minnesota Vikings, who he predicts will trade up to the spot.

“J.J. McCarthy might be one of the most polarizing players in this class, and I’ll admit it, I was skeptical that he was worthy of a first-round pick,” Wilson wrote. “It’s not because he isn’t talented (his athleticism and arm strength are impressive), but because he wasn’t asked to do a lot in Michigan’s offense. But go back and watch his throws on third down and 6 to 10 yards to go: he completed 73% of his attempts — many of them NFL throws — with 5 touchdowns and no turnovers.

“We also talked to him at the combine and the charisma and leadership just ooze off him. And I get it, you might think that we got caught up in the moment, but I’ll just say this: last year when we spoke to C.J. Stroud at the combine, those very same qualities were blindingly obvious in person, and it certainly didn’t hurt his cause during a historic rookie season.”

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

If all the speculation is true and Vikes want JJ, you do realize the absolute ideal scenario every rube here wants is that Da Boob, the second worst QB mind here, HATES it. You do get that, right?

[D_H]

here's a mock that the sergeant will be relieved to see. the thing about JJ is there isn't a lot of tape--but there's plenty to show that he can make the throws. (this probably should have been put in the other thread--but this one's been the talker today. i think there's a typo and he thinks daniels is going #2--but i didn't see his mock. just this snippet.)

Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports: No. 3 to the New England Patriots
Wilson has Williams and Maye going No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, and made the bold prediction that McCarthy will go higher than Maye, who checks in No. 5 to the Minnesota Vikings, who he predicts will trade up to the spot.

“J.J. McCarthy might be one of the most polarizing players in this class, and I’ll admit it, I was skeptical that he was worthy of a first-round pick,” Wilson wrote. “It’s not because he isn’t talented (his athleticism and arm strength are impressive), but because he wasn’t asked to do a lot in Michigan’s offense. But go back and watch his throws on third down and 6 to 10 yards to go: he completed 73% of his attempts — many of them NFL throws — with 5 touchdowns and no turnovers.

“We also talked to him at the combine and the charisma and leadership just ooze off him. And I get it, you might think that we got caught up in the moment, but I’ll just say this: last year when we spoke to C.J. Stroud at the combine, those very same qualities were blindingly obvious in person, and it certainly didn’t hurt his cause during a historic rookie season.”

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

Jason McIntyre on the Herd show today said he thinks the JJ McCarthy camp is doing everything they can the prop up his name that the scouts really aren’t that enamored with him. He said go watch the bowling Green tape, where he threw three interceptions, and he look absolutely terrible against Indiana and of course he was putrid in the national championship game against a bad Washington defense. He’s a career back up spot starter he has absolutely no specific skill set that’s an eye-opener, or way above average.

[RubeTube]

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

Jason McIntyre on the Herd show today said he thinks the JJ McCarthy camp is doing everything they can the prop up his name that the scouts really aren’t that enamored with him. He said go watch the bowling Green tape, where he threw three interceptions, and he look absolutely terrible against Indiana and of course he was putrid in the national championship game against a bad Washington defense. He’s a career back up spot starter he has absolutely no specific skill set that’s an eye-opener, or way above average.

He’s a 2nd rounder.

[D_H]

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

Jason McIntyre on the Herd show today said he thinks the JJ McCarthy camp is doing everything they can the prop up his name that the scouts really aren’t that enamored with him. He said go watch the bowling Green tape, where he threw three interceptions, and he look absolutely terrible against Indiana and of course he was putrid in the national championship game against a bad Washington defense. He’s a career back up spot starter he has absolutely no specific skill set that’s an eye-opener, or way above average.

He’s a 2nd rounder.

He’d be off my draft board

Before the national championship game where he looked absolutely putrid He was considered a third or fourth round draft pick lol why would he move up the board so much? It’s just not true, It’s phony information put out by the McCarthy camp.

[RubeTube]

Just looked at the mock.

They do have JJ going to 3 and then Maye going to us at 5.
However, when they show the corresponding prospect and positional rankings, it has JJ as QB4/Prospect18, while they had Maye as QB3/Prospect6.

So CBS Sports still has Maye as the better rated prospect, but this individual mocker personally prefers JJ.

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

If all the speculation is true and Vikes want JJ, you do realize the absolute ideal scenario every rube here wants is that Da Boob, the second worst QB mind here, HATES it. You do get that, right?

None of you even make predictions. You can’t laugh at others when you never take a stand.

I’ve called plenty of duds and studs.

POUNDED the table for Jalen Hurts. Didn’t need em.. Guys like you wanted an interior lineman to take this thing over the top.

Hated Zach Wilson, he sucks. Said Trevor Lawrence wouldn’t be a stud. Many hits and misses. NFL GMs can’t hit high percentage on QBs. If there was someone out there who could pluck franchise QBs, he would have a job in the NFL his whole life.

Learn DA Game and make sure to never make a prediction so you can always be right.

We should just go with one of your ideas and resign Cousins and draft D and make a run at it with Kirt.

[RubeTube]

Jason McIntyre on the Herd show today said he thinks the JJ McCarthy camp is doing everything they can the prop up his name that the scouts really aren’t that enamored with him. He said go watch the bowling Green tape, where he threw three interceptions, and he look absolutely terrible against Indiana and of course he was putrid in the national championship game against a bad Washington defense. He’s a career back up spot starter he has absolutely no specific skill set that’s an eye-opener, or way above average.

He’s a 2nd rounder.

He’d be off my draft board

Before the national championship game where he looked absolutely putrid He was considered a third or fourth round draft pick lol why would he move up the board so much? It’s just not true, It’s phony information put out by the McCarthy camp.

I’m fine with him in rd #2 but trading up for him is gross.

90% of people didn’t like him here a few months ago and now they’ve all talked themselves into it. If he busts, they will pretend this doesn’t exist and find some other wrong take someone had to bump.

The difference with me is I could care less to bump. Imagine caring what you say on these boards.

[RubeTube]

I’ll go on another one…. Williams won’t be a superstar.

My method isn’t too difficult. I usually say the QBs are going to suck because most of them end up sucking.

I HATED both Wentz and Goff that year. All you have to predict is most of them are going to not be great and you are going to be right. There MIGHT be one guy out of this class that ends up a true franchise guy.

For the Vikings… I like Maye.

[D_H]

I’ll go on another one…. Williams won’t be a superstar.

My method isn’t too difficult. I usually say the QBs are going to suck because most of them end up sucking.

I HATED both Wentz and Goff that year. All you have to predict is most of them are going to not be great and you are going to be right. There MIGHT be one guy out of this class that ends up a true franchise guy.

For the Vikings… I like Maye.

I’m with you on Williams only about 6 foot I think

[RubeTube]

I’ll go on another one…. Williams won’t be a superstar.

My method isn’t too difficult. I usually say the QBs are going to suck because most of them end up sucking.

I HATED both Wentz and Goff that year. All you have to predict is most of them are going to not be great and you are going to be right. There MIGHT be one guy out of this class that ends up a true franchise guy.

For the Vikings… I like Maye.

I’m with you on Williams only about 6 foot I think

Didn’t we take Irv in rd #2 the year Hurts went in the 2nd?

A certain poster here fought with me tooth and nail that Irv wasn’t a bust and this was after his third season.

Gotta love the homers, D_H.

[hategreenticemase]

I really hope some team overthinks this and skips on one of the BIG 3 for JJ.

Man, every year there is some guy elevated who shouldn’t be.

If all the speculation is true and Vikes want JJ, you do realize the absolute ideal scenario every rube here wants is that Da Boob, the second worst QB mind here, HATES it. You do get that, right?

None of you even make predictions. You can’t laugh at others when you never take a stand.

I’ve called plenty of duds and studs.

POUNDED the table for Jalen Hurts. Didn’t need em.. Guys like you wanted an interior lineman to take this thing over the top.

Hated Zach Wilson, he sucks. Said Trevor Lawrence wouldn’t be a stud. Many hits and misses. NFL GMs can’t hit high percentage on QBs. If there was someone out there who could pluck franchise QBs, he would have a job in the NFL his whole life.

Learn DA Game and make sure to never make a prediction so you can always be right.

We should just go with one of your ideas and resign Cousins and draft D and make a run at it with Kirt.

You can pretend all you want, the long timers are fully aware of your QB "knowledge". It's legendary.

[RubeTube]

If all the speculation is true and Vikes want JJ, you do realize the absolute ideal scenario every rube here wants is that Da Boob, the second worst QB mind here, HATES it. You do get that, right?

None of you even make predictions. You can’t laugh at others when you never take a stand.

I’ve called plenty of duds and studs.

POUNDED the table for Jalen Hurts. Didn’t need em.. Guys like you wanted an interior lineman to take this thing over the top.

Hated Zach Wilson, he sucks. Said Trevor Lawrence wouldn’t be a stud. Many hits and misses. NFL GMs can’t hit high percentage on QBs. If there was someone out there who could pluck franchise QBs, he would have a job in the NFL his whole life.

Learn DA Game and make sure to never make a prediction so you can always be right.

We should just go with one of your ideas and resign Cousins and draft D and make a run at it with Kirt.

You can pretend all you want, the long timers are fully aware of your QB "knowledge". It's legendary.

Still not as bad as “A couple of guards”, “Gladney and Dantzler ready by Turkey Day”, “Season is lost because Irv Smith is hurt”

Oh and I never spent half a season crying day in and day out to see Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball. Fuck that take was so bad by the morons here but it disappeared into the wind hoped to be forgotten.

#Homers

[cdr2529]

I will not be close I will be done

I’ll still watch but I’m going to try not to come to any message boards and read fans. I can’t take the homers when this guy is a failure saying he’s going to come around and we just need this and that when the guy throws for 19 tds and 10 picks.

The Ponder era was absolutely insufferable with the homers and we still have some around here pining to bring Turdwater back.

Remember when Spielman brainwashed the homers to think Matt Kalil was what Ponder needed to turn the corner? Forget the fact most of us saw he couldn’t throw a football.

I mean we had people here who just couldn’t believe Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball wasn’t getting his shot. Imagine when the draft pick is a high one.

McCarthy will set the team back another five years just as well as bringing cousin back. The majority of the teams that are serious about winning get rid of old veterans while they have some value.

[hategreenticemase]

None of you even make predictions. You can’t laugh at others when you never take a stand.

I’ve called plenty of duds and studs.

POUNDED the table for Jalen Hurts. Didn’t need em.. Guys like you wanted an interior lineman to take this thing over the top.

Hated Zach Wilson, he sucks. Said Trevor Lawrence wouldn’t be a stud. Many hits and misses. NFL GMs can’t hit high percentage on QBs. If there was someone out there who could pluck franchise QBs, he would have a job in the NFL his whole life.

Learn DA Game and make sure to never make a prediction so you can always be right.

We should just go with one of your ideas and resign Cousins and draft D and make a run at it with Kirt.

You can pretend all you want, the long timers are fully aware of your QB "knowledge". It's legendary.

Still not as bad as “A couple of guards”, “Gladney and Dantzler ready by Turkey Day”, “Season is lost because Irv Smith is hurt”

Oh and I never spent half a season crying day in and day out to see Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball. Fuck that take was so bad by the morons here but it disappeared into the wind hoped to be forgotten.

#Homers

Funny, you have to twist or make up what others takes are to make a point, we just need to tell exactly what your take was.

By the way, what QB do you most want? It would helpful to us to know what to root against.

[D_H]

None of you even make predictions. You can’t laugh at others when you never take a stand.

I’ve called plenty of duds and studs.

POUNDED the table for Jalen Hurts. Didn’t need em.. Guys like you wanted an interior lineman to take this thing over the top.

Hated Zach Wilson, he sucks. Said Trevor Lawrence wouldn’t be a stud. Many hits and misses. NFL GMs can’t hit high percentage on QBs. If there was someone out there who could pluck franchise QBs, he would have a job in the NFL his whole life.

Learn DA Game and make sure to never make a prediction so you can always be right.

We should just go with one of your ideas and resign Cousins and draft D and make a run at it with Kirt.

You can pretend all you want, the long timers are fully aware of your QB "knowledge". It's legendary.

Still not as bad as “A couple of guards”, “Gladney and Dantzler ready by Turkey Day”, “Season is lost because Irv Smith is hurt”

Oh and I never spent half a season crying day in and day out to see Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball. Fuck that take was so bad by the morons here but it disappeared into the wind hoped to be forgotten.

#Homers

The couple guards thing was classic lol

[RubeTube]

You can pretend all you want, the long timers are fully aware of your QB "knowledge". It's legendary.

Still not as bad as “A couple of guards”, “Gladney and Dantzler ready by Turkey Day”, “Season is lost because Irv Smith is hurt”

Oh and I never spent half a season crying day in and day out to see Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball. Fuck that take was so bad by the morons here but it disappeared into the wind hoped to be forgotten.

#Homers

Funny, you have to twist or make up what others takes are to make a point, we just need to tell exactly what your take was.

By the way, what QB do you most want? It would helpful to us to know what to root against.

I go back and fourth between Maye and Daniels. I would be happy with any of the BIG 3. For the Vikings though? I think I lean Maye.

[Beef Supreme]

Yates: J.J. McCarthy will be most polarizing NFL draft prospect. Field Yates delves into why J.J. McCarthy is the most challenging prospect to assess in this draft class.

I definitely agree that he’s the toughest.


Did he ever once have to bring the Wolverines back from a 4th-quarter deficit?


There’s a lot of question marks with this kid. And saying they’re question marks means just that. He could answer them all. It’s unknown with him.


I think he’s worth a roll of the dice, but I don’t have too strong an opinion one way or the other.

[Hornets]

Still not as bad as “A couple of guards”, “Gladney and Dantzler ready by Turkey Day”, “Season is lost because Irv Smith is hurt”

Oh and I never spent half a season crying day in and day out to see Jared “Lollipop Kid” Ball. Fuck that take was so bad by the morons here but it disappeared into the wind hoped to be forgotten.

#Homers

Funny, you have to twist or make up what others takes are to make a point, we just need to tell exactly what your take was.

By the way, what QB do you most want? It would helpful to us to know what to root against.

I go back and fourth between Maye and Daniels. I would be happy with any of the BIG 3. For the Vikings though? I think I lean Maye.

I'm all over the board RT on who I'd like or be ok with. It's confusing and that's why we have to hope beyond hope that Qwesi gets this right....

[Beef Supreme]

I’ll go on another one…. Williams won’t be a superstar.

My method isn’t too difficult. I usually say the QBs are going to suck because most of them end up sucking.

I HATED both Wentz and Goff that year. All you have to predict is most of them are going to not be great and you are going to be right. There MIGHT be one guy out of this class that ends up a true franchise guy.

For the Vikings… I like Maye.

I said elsewhere that I think Maye has the highest floor of these guys. In that sense, he’s the safest.

[cdr2529]

Daniels would be my choice and Maybe would be my choice before McCarthy and really I don't want McCarthy under any circumstances.

[cdr2529]

Daniels because he played against a better conference than Maye

[D_H]

Penix definitely has the best arm talent - but is 24 so there is that. Of the quarterbacks at the combine - He was overwhelmingly the best, and it wasn’t even close.

I would be happy with
Penix
Nix
Danials
Maye
Williams

Everyone else is a clipboard holder