Joseph Patrick Mauer might just get in first ballot

[feekdogg]

Dude never won one postseason game. So he literally is in the "1st Ballot HOF" discussion but never propelled the franchise toward a lasting destiny. Has any other HOF'er never won a postseason game (besides Mike Trout)?

He's the Captain of the team. Gets a once in a lifetime contract. Takes up space in the lineup providing zero power. Hometown kid. Never won in the postseason in over 4 tries? Then you guys wonder why Twins fans think he's a phony.

Ernie Banks played in almost 2500 games. Never made the playoffs. Most years they were around the 7-8th best team in the NL, so even if the wildcard existed, it wouldn't have mattered much. Not saying Mauer is Ernie Banks, but unless you're a starting pitcher, it's pretty tough to have much control over wins/losses in baseball.

[D_H]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

[Tommy_Hawk]

Dude never won one postseason game. So he literally is in the "1st Ballot HOF" discussion but never propelled the franchise toward a lasting destiny. Has any other HOF'er never won a postseason game (besides Mike Trout)?

He's the Captain of the team. Gets a once in a lifetime contract. Takes up space in the lineup providing zero power. Hometown kid. Never won in the postseason in over 4 tries? Then you guys wonder why Twins fans think he's a phony.

Ernie Banks played in almost 2500 games. Never made the playoffs. Most years they were around the 7-8th best team in the NL, so even if the wildcard existed, it wouldn't have mattered much. Not saying Mauer is Ernie Banks, but unless you're a starting pitcher, it's pretty tough to have much control over wins/losses in baseball.

So "Let's Play Two" Mr. Cub, Mike Trout, and Joe Mauer.

[Tommy_Hawk]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

[D_H]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

Yep

I remember people put a big emphasis on BA in the very old days. Now, of course, we know it doesn’t mean anything. It’s all about Home runs and RBIs. The difference between a 275 hitter for a season and 300 hitter is one more hit every eight games. Lol

[feekdogg]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

How many playoff games did that team win?

And that cut and paste from DH is from Cooperstown Cred, which is part of a larger text that reaches the verdict that Mauer probably belongs in the HOF.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/joe-mau ... -of-famer/

Lolololololol, OMG, ROTFLMAO!!!!!

[Tommy_Hawk]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

How many playoff games did that team win?

And that cut and paste from DH is from Cooperstown Cred, which is part of a larger text that reaches the verdict that Mauer probably belongs in the HOF.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/joe-mau ... -of-famer/

Lolololololol, OMG, ROTFLMAO!!!!!

That's a good point. However I can't recount off the top of my head who the highest paid player was on that team. Maybe Cruz or Buxton? Donaldson and Kenta came the next year. I think Santana was already gone. Maybe Berrios or Odorizzi?

Garver
Cron
School
Polanco
Sano
Rosario
Buxton
Kepler
Cruz

[feekdogg]

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

How many playoff games did that team win?

And that cut and paste from DH is from Cooperstown Cred, which is part of a larger text that reaches the verdict that Mauer probably belongs in the HOF.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/joe-mau ... -of-famer/

Lolololololol, OMG, ROTFLMAO!!!!!

That's a good point. However I can't recount off the top of my head who the highest paid player was on that team. Maybe Cruz or Buxton? Donaldson and Kenta came the next year. I think Santana was already gone. Maybe Berrios or Odorizzi?

Garver
Cron
School
Polanco
Sano
Rosario
Buxton
Kepler
Cruz

Nelson Cruz $14,000,000.00
Marwin Gonzalez $12,000,000.00
Jake Odorizzi $9,500,000.00
Kyle Gibson $8,125,000.00
Jason Castro $8,000,000.00
Michael Pineda $8,000,000.00
Jonathan Schoop $7,500,000.00
Max Kepler $6,000,000.00
C.J. Cron $4,800,000.00
Eddie Rosario $4,190,000.00

Top 10

[Tommy_Hawk]

How many playoff games did that team win?

And that cut and paste from DH is from Cooperstown Cred, which is part of a larger text that reaches the verdict that Mauer probably belongs in the HOF.

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/joe-mau ... -of-famer/

Lolololololol, OMG, ROTFLMAO!!!!!

That's a good point. However I can't recount off the top of my head who the highest paid player was on that team. Maybe Cruz or Buxton? Donaldson and Kenta came the next year. I think Santana was already gone. Maybe Berrios or Odorizzi?

Garver
Cron
School
Polanco
Sano
Rosario
Buxton
Kepler
Cruz

Nelson Cruz $14,000,000.00
Marwin Gonzalez $12,000,000.00
Jake Odorizzi $9,500,000.00
Kyle Gibson $8,125,000.00
Jason Castro $8,000,000.00
Michael Pineda $8,000,000.00
Jonathan Schoop $7,500,000.00
Max Kepler $6,000,000.00
C.J. Cron $4,800,000.00
Eddie Rosario $4,190,000.00

Top 10

Marwin at $12, lulz

[DC4MVP]

Today’s Hall of Fame voters, however, are tough.

Mauer will get credit for his good numbers as a catcher but it should be noted that, even when catcher was his primary position, he started a lot of games at first base or as the team’s designated hitter.

Mauer only caught 100 games five times in his career. His 921 career games behind the dish are just 154th in the history of the game. Compare that to Yadier Molina, who retired last fall and is considered a strong future Hall of Fame candidate. Molina caught 2,184 games, more than double Mauer’s total and 4th most in history. Only Buck Ewing, a 19th-century player, has fewer games while donning the tools of ignorance for a Hall of Fame backstop than Mauer’s 921.

Mauer also took a lot of questionable days off and wasn’t regarded as the toughest player out there. As a matter fact teammates often questioned behind the scenes whether or not he was really injured at times. Regardless of what teammates said, or will say about him publicly, he wasn’t the most respected guy in the locker room, and thought of as too soft.

OUCH!! Lolololo

The team performed better immediately after he retired. Bomba Squad.

Yep

I remember people put a big emphasis on BA in the very old days. Now, of course, we know it doesn’t mean anything. It’s all about Home runs and RBIs. The difference between a 275 hitter for a season and 300 hitter is one more hit every eight games. Lol

Reminds me of that quote from Bull Durham

"Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at bats is 50 points, okay? There's 6 months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week - just one - a gorp... you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes... you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week... and you're in Yankee Stadium."

[JPM]

up to 83% of the ballots

[JPM]

If only it were the same Clark as that in the old KFAN board days.

Same Clark since 2005

Then you woulda remembered the Twins rube that was outed some years ago.

huh?

[salamander]

Big twins fan growing up, but I never believed he was hof worthy. Good stats but never impacted winning. Never hit for power, yet in his mvp season (which was also a contract year for him) he all of a sudden erupts for 30 hr’s, gets his big extension in the offseason, then goes back to mediocre hr numbers the rest of his career made me always suspect he juiced that offseason prior

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

[salamander]

Not necessarily here but It's so sad that TWINS FANS...I repeat TWINS FANS are so actively rooting for Mauer to not get into the HOF. Not just first ballot, but at all.

Such a shitty fan base.

I care more about whether I think someone deserves it.

[ForCaleb]

Big twins fan growing up, but I never believed he was hof worthy. Good stats but never impacted winning. Never hit for power, yet in his mvp season (which was also a contract year for him) he all of a sudden erupts for 30 hr’s, gets his big extension in the offseason, then goes back to mediocre hr numbers the rest of his career made me always suspect he juiced that offseason prior

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

LOL just stop. After his MVP season he still hit:

2010 - .327
2011 - .287
2012 - .319
2013 - .324

Mediocre power, sure. But that's not a mediocre hitter

[D_H]

Big twins fan growing up, but I never believed he was hof worthy. Good stats but never impacted winning. Never hit for power, yet in his mvp season (which was also a contract year for him) he all of a sudden erupts for 30 hr’s, gets his big extension in the offseason, then goes back to mediocre hr numbers the rest of his career made me always suspect he juiced that offseason prior

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

No doubt

[D_H]

Big twins fan growing up, but I never believed he was hof worthy. Good stats but never impacted winning. Never hit for power, yet in his mvp season (which was also a contract year for him) he all of a sudden erupts for 30 hr’s, gets his big extension in the offseason, then goes back to mediocre hr numbers the rest of his career made me always suspect he juiced that offseason prior

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

LOL just stop. After his MVP season he still hit:

2010 - .327
2011 - .287
2012 - .319
2013 - .324

Mediocre power, sure. But that's not a mediocre hitter

Batting average just don’t mean anything like someone said the difference between a 250 hitter, and a 300 hitter is one flare a week. No GM nowadays puts any emphasis on BA because they know it’s a worthless stat. Some sites that track statistics nowadays don’t even post BA.

[salamander]

Big twins fan growing up, but I never believed he was hof worthy. Good stats but never impacted winning. Never hit for power, yet in his mvp season (which was also a contract year for him) he all of a sudden erupts for 30 hr’s, gets his big extension in the offseason, then goes back to mediocre hr numbers the rest of his career made me always suspect he juiced that offseason prior

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

LOL just stop. After his MVP season he still hit:

2010 - .327
2011 - .287
2012 - .319
2013 - .324

Mediocre power, sure. But that's not a mediocre hitter

Juicing doesn't effect average though does it?

Mauer had only 1 year in his entire career that he hit more than 13 HR's and he hit 28 that year. Over double his next highest year. He hit triple the HR's that year than his average per year.

He juiced. Then got paid to be a 30 HR player and couldn't even do half that. Mauer to the HOF is the biggest joke I've ever seen and I now have zero respect for the baseball HOF. It's a trash heap full of players that don't belong. Just put Pete Rose in at this point.

[Hornets]

He juiced. He absolutely juiced.

LOL just stop. After his MVP season he still hit:

2010 - .327
2011 - .287
2012 - .319
2013 - .324

Mediocre power, sure. But that's not a mediocre hitter

Juicing doesn't effect average though does it?

Mauer had only 1 year in his entire career that he hit more than 13 HR's and he hit 28 that year. Over double his next highest year. He hit triple the HR's that year than his average per year.

He juiced. Then got paid to be a 30 HR player and couldn't even do half that. Mauer to the HOF is the biggest joke I've ever seen and I now have zero respect for the baseball HOF. It's a trash heap full of players that don't belong. Just put Pete Rose in at this point.

That season does raise suspicion but I would be shocked if it ever came out that Joe juiced. I don't recall ever hearing anyone (other than here!) suggest he did.

[salamander]

LOL just stop. After his MVP season he still hit:

2010 - .327
2011 - .287
2012 - .319
2013 - .324

Mediocre power, sure. But that's not a mediocre hitter

Juicing doesn't effect average though does it?

Mauer had only 1 year in his entire career that he hit more than 13 HR's and he hit 28 that year. Over double his next highest year. He hit triple the HR's that year than his average per year.

He juiced. Then got paid to be a 30 HR player and couldn't even do half that. Mauer to the HOF is the biggest joke I've ever seen and I now have zero respect for the baseball HOF. It's a trash heap full of players that don't belong. Just put Pete Rose in at this point.

That season does raise suspicion but I would be shocked if it ever came out that Joe juiced. I don't recall ever hearing anyone (other than here!) suggest he did.

I hope he didn't, I really do. But looking at the numbers, it's clear to me he juiced.

[JPM]

Still at 83%. Juiced. Bwahahahahaha. They are grasping now.

[Tommy_Hawk]

Shiiit, teh LBJ even missed the first month of his MVP season with a ailing hip, and still hit 28 HR's for the only time in his career. Still has 0 playoff wins.

[Roy D.]

Man, they are diluting the HOF now. They should have two wings. One for the greats and one for the very goods.

[weimy froob]

MLB Hall of Fame: Class of 2024 voting trending toward four inductees, with Gary Sheffield too close to call
It's looking like Adrian Beltre, Joe Mauer, Todd Helton and Billy Wagner will get the call Tuesday

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-hall-of-fa ... 37891.html

[feekdogg]

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Awful dusty in Twins Chat today. Is someone cutting a bunch of onions?

[ForCaleb]

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Awful dusty in Twins Chat today. Is someone cutting a bunch of onions?

Great story. Heard today on the Fan Mauer and Schmit have a kids book out on this

https://itascabooks.com/products/the-ri ... auer-story

[Hornets]

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Awful dusty in Twins Chat today. Is someone cutting a bunch of onions?

Great story. Heard today on the Fan Mauer and Schmit have a kids book out on this

https://itascabooks.com/products/the-ri ... auer-story

Incredible guy we had the privilege of watching for 15 years....the HOF will be gettin a good one!

[TheLokNesMonster]

Incredible guy we had the privilege of watching for 15 years....the HOF will be gettin a good one!

I’m with you Gus. Joe is a class act, never makes excuses, great athlete, humble. Just an all time great Minnesota athlete.

[feekdogg]

He's up to 84.5% with almost half of known ballots. If he doesn't make it, it will be an oddly appropriate classic Minnesota collapse.

[tbgh]

But what I don't think is fair is labeling HIM a phony. The guy LOVED sports and was an incredible athlete in THREE sports. Never came across as entitled. Never acted arrogant. Never was a problem in the clubhouse. Just an introverted personality who preferred to just go out and play a game that he loved and was fortunate to be able to do so for his entire career in front of friends and family in his home state. Many here wanted him to be something he wasn't and when he didn't fit the way they wanted him to that's when the negativity started to take hold. We can be disappointed that he was not part of a championship team, but thinking he was a phony just doesn't make sense...

His MVP season was phony. What are we even talking about here?

I get it: "He's One Of US", but some Twins fans aren't from MN. We don't have the natural bias.

His MVP year wasn't a phony, it was an outlier. Many MVP's have had years like this. Maybe not to the extent of Mauer, but close. I don't think it's that abnormal. I could be wrong.

Nailed it!