2024 MLB Hot Stove

[Phil Leotardo]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... -deal.html

Mahle to the Rangers, 2 years 22 million guaranteed. I figured the Twins would try and bring him back, but that's a pretty big number for a guy who won't be ready to pitch until sometime next summer, most likely.

[weimy froob]

Twins also signed Nishioka and Park when they were late in their 20s and had zero patience for them.

Not going to take the time to find out but I'm curious how their baseball careers went after leaving Minnesota.

Park still plays in Korea. Both of them went back home and were mostly fine players, just not up to the level of MLB competition.

ted's take.

[weimy froob]

[weimy froob]

[Hornets]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... -deal.html

Mahle to the Rangers, 2 years 22 million guaranteed. I figured the Twins would try and bring him back, but that's a pretty big number for a guy who won't be ready to pitch until sometime next summer, most likely.

What a colossal disaster the trade for him ended up being...ugh

[Phil Leotardo]

Not going to take the time to find out but I'm curious how their baseball careers went after leaving Minnesota.

Park still plays in Korea. Both of them went back home and were mostly fine players, just not up to the level of MLB competition.

ted's take.

While it was strange that the Twins (who lost 103 games in '16) gave up on Park so quickly, I doubt he had much of a future in the majors. There wasn't really a market for him before he came to MN, and obviously no one else ever tried to get him after the Twins cut him loose.

[feekdogg]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... -deal.html

Mahle to the Rangers, 2 years 22 million guaranteed. I figured the Twins would try and bring him back, but that's a pretty big number for a guy who won't be ready to pitch until sometime next summer, most likely.

What a colossal disaster the trade for him ended up being...ugh

Yeah. That one stings hard. Especially since both Steer and Encarnacion-Strand have proved that they are MLB hitters already. And they're both right-handed hitters with some pop, which is something lacking in the lineup right now.

[ForCaleb]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... -deal.html

Mahle to the Rangers, 2 years 22 million guaranteed. I figured the Twins would try and bring him back, but that's a pretty big number for a guy who won't be ready to pitch until sometime next summer, most likely.

I’m shocked he was able to get that. Good for him

[weimy froob]

Detroit Tigers sign right-hander Jack Flaherty to one-year, $14 million contract

[Hoop Dreams]

[ForCaleb]

I'm curious to see what the Twins think they can get for Kepler. I'm just not seeing the appeal of what should be a backup RFer/DH that just turned 30.

[Miley Cyrus]

I'm curious to see what the Twins think they can get for Kepler. I'm just not seeing the appeal of what should be a backup RFer/DH that just turned 30.

Lance Lynn? Just signed his 2nd stint with the Cards. 1 yr/10M.

[Phil Leotardo]

I'm curious to see what the Twins think they can get for Kepler. I'm just not seeing the appeal of what should be a backup RFer/DH that just turned 30.

The good version of Kepler is definitely a solid MLB starter, but I doubt they get much for him without throwing in a prospect or two. Best case scenario would probably be a swap for another team's pending FA. A #4 starter, say.

[feekdogg]

Twins Daily has speculations about the Marlins/Twins working on another deal for pitching (Jesus Luzardo). He's good, but good gravy:

Option 1. Brooks Lee, Wallner and a low-level prospect.
Option 2. Emmanuel Rodriguez, Julien and Kepler.
Option 3. Jeffers, Polanco, Larnach and the pick they got for Gray.

[weimy froob]

Twins Daily has speculations about the Marlins/Twins working on another deal for pitching (Jesus Luzardo). He's good, but good gravy:

Option 1. Brooks Lee, Wallner and a low-level prospect.
Option 2. Emmanuel Rodriguez, Julien and Kepler.
Option 3. Jeffers, Polanco, Larnach and the pick they got for Gray.

which option is less painful? i'd go three i guess. 2 then 1?

[feekdogg]

Twins Daily has speculations about the Marlins/Twins working on another deal for pitching (Jesus Luzardo). He's good, but good gravy:

Option 1. Brooks Lee, Wallner and a low-level prospect.
Option 2. Emmanuel Rodriguez, Julien and Kepler.
Option 3. Jeffers, Polanco, Larnach and the pick they got for Gray.

which option is less painful? i'd go three i guess. 2 then 1?

3 leaves you with garbage at catcher (TD says this probably isn't enough to get it done anyway).

[ForCaleb]

Twins Daily has speculations about the Marlins/Twins working on another deal for pitching (Jesus Luzardo). He's good, but good gravy:

Option 1. Brooks Lee, Wallner and a low-level prospect.
Option 2. Emmanuel Rodriguez, Julien and Kepler.
Option 3. Jeffers, Polanco, Larnach and the pick they got for Gray.

Option 2 or 3.

I like Luzardo. It feels like he's been in the league forever, but he's only 26. I think he'd be a good fit here. Solid middle rotation guy, high K rate.

[weimy froob]

i'd rather they have to find another catcher than lose julien.

[Tommy_Hawk]

Maybe if they "splurged" and signed more guys like Gray, they wouldn't have to give up so many prospects to get decent pieces back. If the team isn't performing by the ASG, trade for prospects yourself, and if the Grays end up leading in FA, you still get draft picks (essentially prospects) in return.

Even if you sign a Juan Soto, you can still trade him for pieces and another team will pay the rest of his contract.

[Hornets]

I'm getting antsy for Falvine to make a move!

[Bullazin]

i'd rather they have to find another catcher than lose julien.

They cut payroll, I’m used to it. If they deal Julien one year after dealing the only other guy in their system that doesn’t strike out half the time, I may have to become a truly casual fan

[weimy froob]

rule changes for 2024

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-rule-chang ... 26234.html

[feekdogg]

Dodgers are supposedly dropping 300 million on Yamamoto.
1 billion bucks on two of Japan's finest.
On one hand, I get it.
On the orher, it's such a massive outlay for guys who don't compete on the same level as guys who play on an island that is split with Haiti.

[jffl_commish]

The Dodgers aren't going to lose a game this season.

[feekdogg]

The Dodgers aren't going to lose a game this season.

They'll go 152-10. And get swept in the NLDS by the Brewers.

[ForCaleb]

BF is a Twins Daily equivalent so it's not even a "rumor" at this point, but it makes some sense:

[Ask Not]

Dodgers are supposedly dropping 300 million on Yamamoto.
1 billion bucks on two of Japan's finest.
On one hand, I get it.
On the orher, it's such a massive outlay for guys who don't compete on the same level as guys who play on an island that is split with Haiti.

I was listening to a sports business podcast the other day that suggested because Ohtani is such a superstar in Japan and that region, there's a chance the Dodgers could make enough deals in the first 3 years of Ohtani's tenure to make all $700M back.

I wonder what the calculation is for Yamamoto?

Another item they mentioned (before the Yamamoto signing) is what this might do long-term for them acquiring Japanese stars - they'll have an entire generation of kids who want to wear Dodger Blue like their hero.

[chris_numbers]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... -deal.html

Mahle to the Rangers, 2 years 22 million guaranteed. I figured the Twins would try and bring him back, but that's a pretty big number for a guy who won't be ready to pitch until sometime next summer, most likely.

What a colossal disaster the trade for him ended up being...ugh

Terrible, as good as other trades have been this was one of the worst.

[chris_numbers]

Dodgers are supposedly dropping 300 million on Yamamoto.
1 billion bucks on two of Japan's finest.
On one hand, I get it.
On the orher, it's such a massive outlay for guys who don't compete on the same level as guys who play on an island that is split with Haiti.

I was listening to a sports business podcast the other day that suggested because Ohtani is such a superstar in Japan and that region, there's a chance the Dodgers could make enough deals in the first 3 years of Ohtani's tenure to make all $700M back.

I wonder what the calculation is for Yamamoto?

Another item they mentioned (before the Yamamoto signing) is what this might do long-term for them acquiring Japanese stars - they'll have an entire generation of kids who want to wear Dodger Blue like their hero.

Insane at how much the Dodgeers have spent.

2025 pitching
Glasnow
Othani
Yamamoto
Buehler
Yarborough
Miller

That’s a good rotation.

[Tommy_Hawk]

Dodgers are supposedly dropping 300 million on Yamamoto.
1 billion bucks on two of Japan's finest.
On one hand, I get it.
On the orher, it's such a massive outlay for guys who don't compete on the same level as guys who play on an island that is split with Haiti.

I was listening to a sports business podcast the other day that suggested because Ohtani is such a superstar in Japan and that region, there's a chance the Dodgers could make enough deals in the first 3 years of Ohtani's tenure to make all $700M back.

I wonder what the calculation is for Yamamoto?

Another item they mentioned (before the Yamamoto signing) is what this might do long-term for them acquiring Japanese stars - they'll have an entire generation of kids who want to wear Dodger Blue like their hero.

Insane at how much the Dodgeers have spent.

2025 pitching
Glasnow
Othani
Yamamoto
Buehler
Yarborough
Miller

That’s a good rotation.

All they're missing is their new manager