2024 Looks Like a Great Year for the Vikings to Draft a Quarterback

[Hoop Dreams]

[Small Hands]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

[minnemike]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

Seems like everyone assumed WAS would pick him.... but since new word has come out that they are also up for a trade, things change.

[Oriole81]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

Seems like everyone assumed WAS would pick him.... but since new word has come out that they are also up for a trade, things change.

I think Wash is just posturing.
They're a team like Hou that could immediately pop up if they hit on the rookie QB.
Just find your guy and don't fuck around.

[minnemike]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

Seems like everyone assumed WAS would pick him.... but since new word has come out that they are also up for a trade, things change.

I think Wash is just posturing.
They're a team like Hou that could immediately pop up if they hit on the rookie QB.
Just find your guy and don't fuck around.

Well, fuck those guys! They just made everyone go to his pro day and schedule visits!

[Mplsfonz]

Where are we in our competitive rebuild?

Seems like teams take quarterbacks and then build around them. It is hard to time it properly though. The Pats took Mac Jones after Brady and tried to time it. Another pick does seem early, but the free agents are crap as well.

Part of the issue is that teams are doing a poor job of grooming quarterbacks. The game is so difficult today for quarterbacks. Then injuries on top of everything.

Vikings having Hall, Darnold, and a rookie first rounder would be a nice quarterback room.

A lot of the failure in quarterbacks today falls on coaches and the NFL teams firing guys too quickly. The coaches move around too much and can’t build a competitive team.

I agree. But the owners are the ones who are to blame. Mostly. Teams can't afford to rebuild the old fashion way. Fans want instant results as do the owners. Timing is all GM's and coaches can hope for. Lets say a team like Detroit suck for years, then a good GM (A) comes in, hires a new staff and they use draft picks wisely. It could take said players 2-3 years of sucking before they actually pan out. Then Owners fire them, replace with another GM (B) and that GM has seasoned players and great draft picks. Now if that staff picks good, then they will take credit for getting that team in PO position. Timing is probably the reason our staff is in good position to not have to rebuild. But if they trade Jefferson, all bets are off.

[Hoop Dreams]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

[Beef Supreme]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

[Small Hands]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

His throwing motion is broke as fuck. I don’t trust Lefties

[William Munny]

I don't think anyone is against Penix as a potential draftee QB. Its just that there are 4 better options to most teams.

[RubeTube]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

Who is your top guy of tier #2 if the big 3 are gone?

[Oriole81]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

His throwing motion is broke as fuck. I don’t trust Lefties

what about only for masturbatory purposes?

[cdr2529]

Penix with a 36.5 vertical jump and a 4.46 40 time today. Wasn't expecting that.

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

Who is your top guy of tier #2 if the big 3 are gone?

I would pick penix or Nix before McCarthy to be honest I wouldn’t drafted McCarthy at all

[Beetlejuice]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

I’m perfectly fine trading up for Maye, McCarthy, or Daniels. I’d be very disappointed if they settled for Nix or Penix.

[RubeTube]

He’s a better athlete than he’s shown.


Dude is an absolute stud prospect. There are concerns, but none of them are ability or talent.

His throwing motion is broke as fuck. I don’t trust Lefties

what about only for masturbatory purposes?

I’m left handed and I yerk with the left also. I could arouse myself just fine with my right hand but getting to “Completion” well, that’s not that simple.

[Oriole81]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

I’m perfectly fine trading up for Maye, McCarthy, or Daniels. I’d be very disappointed if they settled for Nix or Penix.

My feelings on this have as much to do with what KOC is capable of vs what the individual QBs are.
If KOC is supposed to be a special offensive/QB mind, then I feel he should be able to be "successful" with his choice of Penix or Nix.

But if we're trading up serious capital for one of the others, then KOC should be expected to make that guy into a LEGIT franchise QB and TBH, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for damn near Rivers/Ryan level productivity, meaning damn near HOF level results.

Otherwise, what are we doing here?

[mlhouse]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

I’m perfectly fine trading up for Maye, McCarthy, or Daniels. I’d be very disappointed if they settled for Nix or Penix.

My feelings on this have as much to do with what KOC is capable of vs what the individual QBs are.
If KOC is supposed to be a special offensive/QB mind, then I feel he should be able to be "successful" with his choice of Penix or Nix.

But if we're trading up serious capital for one of the others, then KOC should be expected to make that guy into a LEGIT franchise QB and TBH, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for damn near Rivers/Ryan level productivity, meaning damn near HOF level results.

Otherwise, what are we doing here?

This is fact. If they fuck this up they will be gone.

[William Munny]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

I’m perfectly fine trading up for Maye, McCarthy, or Daniels. I’d be very disappointed if they settled for Nix or Penix.

I agree on the top three you mentioned. I would be ok with Penix if he KOC could actually mold him to fit the system. I think that Nix is not going to be a higher ceiling guy, so would be better elsewhere.

[Beef Supreme]

Williams
Maye
Daniels

McCarthy
Penix

Nix

Rattler

The rest of the scrubs

[William Munny]

Williams
Maye
Daniels

McCarthy
Penix

Nix

Rattler

The rest of the scrubs

[Beef Supreme]

But I thought they loved JJ… and Maye… and Nix…. Annnd Penix

I think it’s safe to say we should all take a breather on who they want. I do however have an insider scoop on this and brought it up a month ago. A Vikings coordinator told someone I trust that they love Maye and are going to do anything they can to get him. If the report that there is one coveted is true, my money is on him.

I’m perfectly fine trading up for Maye, McCarthy, or Daniels. I’d be very disappointed if they settled for Nix or Penix.

My feelings on this have as much to do with what KOC is capable of vs what the individual QBs are.
If KOC is supposed to be a special offensive/QB mind, then I feel he should be able to be "successful" with his choice of Penix or Nix.

But if we're trading up serious capital for one of the others, then KOC should be expected to make that guy into a LEGIT franchise QB and TBH, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for damn near Rivers/Ryan level productivity, meaning damn near HOF level results.

Otherwise, what are we doing here?

Agreed. And if you get HoF or near production, it’s worth 3 firsts to get it.

Kirk Cousins was “successful” by many standards. Getting better than that should be the goal. If we can get Penix or Nix to Cousins-level success, there will be a short-term benefit while he’s cheap, but as soon as we have to pay him, it’s treading water.

This franchise has never taken a bold swing up to the top. I’d like to try that. Obviously, you don’t do it just to do it. You have to believe in the guy. But if they believe in a guy, I’m comfortable with them doing what it takes to get him.

It will either hit and we’ll usher in an era of sustained success most of us have never seen or he’ll miss and Kwesi and O’Connell will be fired. And if that happens and we’re talent poor because of the trade up and miss, we trade Justin Jefferson for a haul to jump start the rebuild in 2027 or so.

[William Munny]

So what if the cost to move-up to #3 is four 1st round picks? Would you do it?

[Beef Supreme]

So what if the cost to move-up to #3 is four 1st round picks? Would you do it?

It shouldn’t be that much. But if I really thought the guy was the next superstar, yes.


I don’t have enough info to make that call. I’m a Froob.


But how many first round picks do think it would take to get Mahomes from KC or Burrow from Cincy or Stroud from Houston or Herbert from LAC?


You’d be lucky to get any of them for 4.

Vikings have spent 66 first round picks in their history and had one franchise quarterback.

[D_H]

Just as I thought all the McCarthy hype is coming from his camp, NFL people don’t buy it. Lolololo

Before the national championship game, JJ McCarthy was considered a second round pic. He played bad that game, and all of the sudden his stock went up. Lol riiiiiiiiight! Lol little newsflash for people - it didn’t go up in the eyes of NFL people. The hype machine from his camp was in full force.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-is-p ... 16866.html



One longtime evaluator chuckled when I asked about McCarthy’s projection at No. 2 overall and shot back: “Harbaugh didn’t say he was the No. 2 quarterback. He said he was the No. 1 quarterback.” Another longtime evaluator noted, “Jim needs everything but a quarterback. So every quarterback that gets taken before [the fifth pick] is a win for him.”

While nobody suggested that Harbaugh is the source of the supposed Commanders interest at No. 2 overall, some evaluators came close.

“There definitely could be a little bit of an ulterior motive to get someone pushed to him, for sure. That would be a Harbaugh type move,” one evaluator said. “There’s a plan there, I would say. Because they’re sitting there like, all right, if top four are QBs, we get our pick of whatever the hell we want. They’re probably in the best position of any team up there, because now the first four probably are going to be quarterbacks.”

[William Munny]

So what if the cost to move-up to #3 is four 1st round picks? Would you do it?

It shouldn’t be that much. But if I really thought the guy was the next superstar, yes.


I don’t have enough info to make that call. I’m a Froob.


But how many first round picks do think it would take to get Mahomes from KC or Burrow from Cincy or Stroud from Houston or Herbert from LAC?


You’d be lucky to get any of them for 4.

Vikings have spent 66 first round picks in their history and had one franchise quarterback.

Yeah, I would agree. It should not cost that much, but if you have other teams, such as the Broncos trying to move up as well, the price could be damn high.

[Beef Supreme]

So what if the cost to move-up to #3 is four 1st round picks? Would you do it?

It shouldn’t be that much. But if I really thought the guy was the next superstar, yes.


I don’t have enough info to make that call. I’m a Froob.


But how many first round picks do think it would take to get Mahomes from KC or Burrow from Cincy or Stroud from Houston or Herbert from LAC?


You’d be lucky to get any of them for 4.

Vikings have spent 66 first round picks in their history and had one franchise quarterback.

Yeah, I would agree. It should not cost that much, but if you have other teams, such as the Broncos trying to move up as well, the price could be damn high.

Broncos have less ammo than we do.

[William Munny]

It shouldn’t be that much. But if I really thought the guy was the next superstar, yes.


I don’t have enough info to make that call. I’m a Froob.


But how many first round picks do think it would take to get Mahomes from KC or Burrow from Cincy or Stroud from Houston or Herbert from LAC?


You’d be lucky to get any of them for 4.

Vikings have spent 66 first round picks in their history and had one franchise quarterback.

Yeah, I would agree. It should not cost that much, but if you have other teams, such as the Broncos trying to move up as well, the price could be damn high.

Broncos have less ammo than we do.

Draft picks, sure. What if they offer CB Patrick Surtain II in addition to #12 plus more?

[Beef Supreme]

Yeah, I would agree. It should not cost that much, but if you have other teams, such as the Broncos trying to move up as well, the price could be damn high.

Broncos have less ammo than we do.

Draft picks, sure. What if they offer CB Patrick Surtain II in addition to #12 plus more?

What if we offer WR Jordan Addison in addition to 11 and maybe 23 or something else?

Surtain is also due a massive payday. He’s worth it, but that reduces his market value vs cheap guys on rookie deals.

[William Munny]

Broncos have less ammo than we do.

Draft picks, sure. What if they offer CB Patrick Surtain II in addition to #12 plus more?

What if we offer WR Jordan Addison in addition to 11 and maybe 23 or something else?

Surtain is also due a massive payday. He’s worth it, but that reduces his market value vs cheap guys on rookie deals.

True.

[RubeTube]

Broncos have less ammo than we do.

Draft picks, sure. What if they offer CB Patrick Surtain II in addition to #12 plus more?

What if we offer WR Jordan Addison in addition to 11 and maybe 23 or something else?

Surtain is also due a massive payday. He’s worth it, but that reduces his market value vs cheap guys on rookie deals.

Fuck that. I’m not dealing Addison.