2024 Looks Like a Great Year for the Vikings to Draft a Quarterback

[D_H]

Interesting…


The Minnesota Vikings are preparing for a potential scenario where they start Sam Darnold at QB in 2024 and look to the 2025 Draft for a new starter.

Via ESPN report Kevin Seifert.

[weimy froob]

"not awful" isn't a ringing endorsement. that's my problem with a penix pick. with that injury history it's hard to see him holding up in the NFL.

[D_H]

"not awful" isn't a ringing endorsement. that's my problem with a penix pick. with that injury history it's hard to see him holding up in the NFL.

Na
Kurt Warner had him ranked 3rd behind Williams and Daniels.

[William Munny]

Interesting…


The Minnesota Vikings are preparing for a potential scenario where they start Sam Darnold at QB in 2024 and look to the 2025 Draft for a new starter.

Via ESPN report Kevin Seifert.

[Beef Supreme]

More rumorzez

[Hoop Dreams]

[RubeTube]

Rick Spielman likes him here too and said he’s going to be one of the better QBs in the draft.

We need to be finding something higher though.

[William Munny]

Does Rattler have the game to match the name? I doubt it. Maye is target #1, McCarthy #2 and Penix #3.

[William Munny]

Rick Spielman likes him here too and said he’s going to be one of the better QBs in the draft.

We need to be finding something higher though.

“Let me make this clear, Phil. The Vikings want to connect with Jayden Daniels. So, this would be more the Jayden Daniels camp [saying], ‘we think our client is going No. 2 to Washington or his floor is No. 3 to New England, we really don’t think New England is going to move off of No. 3 so why have him do all these meetings? It’s already been a lengthy, grueling pre-draft process, let’s not overload him. Let’s have him focus on Washington; focus on New England. Do we need him to focus on the Vikings?'”

“So that’s where the Vikings are trying to sell the Daniels camp on, ‘yes, we are heavily interested. There is a scenario where we could land him. We want to do as much homework on him as possible’, so that’s where the dialogue continues. But make no mistake about this, the Vikings hope to connect with Jayden Daniels”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ja ... b80a&ei=12

[Offsides 97 defense]

"Rebuilds don’t take 4-5 years. All it takes is finding the right quarterback."

That is the best quote I've seen on Twitter this year.

[William Munny]

"Rebuilds don’t take 4-5 years. All it takes is finding the right quarterback."

That is the best quote I've seen on Twitter this year.

"The right quarterback" can't consistently win a team lacking talent.

[salamander]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

[D_H]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

[Señor Trumpo]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

[Beef Supreme]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

Probably.


I think they want to trade up for a top guy. If they strike out. I think they like Penix enough to take him. Maybe even at 11.

[cdr2529]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

Did they send the entire staff for McCarthy? If not then you don't know what you are talking about! So it's either Maye or penix

[witljon]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

You’re opinion….not fact.

[Small Hands]

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

You’re opinion….not fact.

I’m gonna laugh hard when it’s Nix

[William Munny]

Minnesota Vikings just sent "their whole staff" including KAM & KOC to a private workout for Michael Penix Jr.

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

Yep, you are correct.

[William Munny]

Yep
They want him or Drake Maye

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

Yep, you are correct.

Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston, who covers the New England Patriots, is reporting that it would take “a lot more” than three first-round picks for the Patriots to move down from #3 overall.

I keep circling back to it’s going to be three first-round picks, meaning Minnesota at 11 and 23 and their first-round pick next year. From what I’m hearing, it’s going to take a lot more than that for the Patriots to be moved off their spot. Because they as a team, collectively, understand the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft.

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

[Oriole81]

Penix is not the preferred pick. It's either Maye, McCarthy or Daniels in that order. Penix is 4th option.

Yep, you are correct.

Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston, who covers the New England Patriots, is reporting that it would take “a lot more” than three first-round picks for the Patriots to move down from #3 overall.

I keep circling back to it’s going to be three first-round picks, meaning Minnesota at 11 and 23 and their first-round pick next year. From what I’m hearing, it’s going to take a lot more than that for the Patriots to be moved off their spot. Because they as a team, collectively, understand the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft.

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

[William Munny]

Yep, you are correct.

Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston, who covers the New England Patriots, is reporting that it would take “a lot more” than three first-round picks for the Patriots to move down from #3 overall.

I keep circling back to it’s going to be three first-round picks, meaning Minnesota at 11 and 23 and their first-round pick next year. From what I’m hearing, it’s going to take a lot more than that for the Patriots to be moved off their spot. Because they as a team, collectively, understand the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft.

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

Lol, yeah the drama and misinformation is irritating. Only 2 weeks and 5 days more before we know.

[Beef Supreme]

Yep, you are correct.

Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston, who covers the New England Patriots, is reporting that it would take “a lot more” than three first-round picks for the Patriots to move down from #3 overall.

I keep circling back to it’s going to be three first-round picks, meaning Minnesota at 11 and 23 and their first-round pick next year. From what I’m hearing, it’s going to take a lot more than that for the Patriots to be moved off their spot. Because they as a team, collectively, understand the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft.

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

It’s all smokescreen and innuendo right now.


But I heard someone phrase it thusly:


Imagine everything about the Vikings and Patriots was the same, except the Vikings had the #3 pick and the Patriots had the 11 and 23. Given the state of their rosters, there’s no question the Vikings would go QB at 3. But would there be any talk of the Patriots trying to trade up for 3? I doubt it. They’d be saying that having 2 first rounders is an excellent opportunity for them to give a bad roster a much-needed talent infusion.

Adding picks just makes a lot of sense for New England. Especially since Maye (of the top-3) is probably the most dependent on having talent around him.

[Oriole81]

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

It’s all smokescreen and innuendo right now.


But I heard someone phrase it thusly:


Imagine everything about the Vikings and Patriots was the same, except the Vikings had the #3 pick and the Patriots had the 11 and 23. Given the state of their rosters, there’s no question the Vikings would go QB at 3. But would there be any talk of the Patriots trying to trade up for 3? I doubt it. They’d be saying that having 2 first rounders is an excellent opportunity for them to give a bad roster a much-needed talent infusion.

Adding picks just makes a lot of sense for New England. Especially since Maye (of the top-3) is probably the most dependent on having talent around him.

It was that last statement that got me, the "the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft."

I envisioned this as a direct convo between Kwesi and Elliott Wolf, and Wolf ended with that phrase.
My response was intended in the voice of Kwesi, just being frustrated for having time wasted, because three firsts is perfectly inline with the market of previous trades.

If Wolf is now saying that is not enough and they're excited for the QBs, then you're not really in the market in the first place, because there really should be no number that is enough to walk away from a QB of this potential.

[witljon]

[youtube]http://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new- ... ck/601015/[/youtube]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

It’s all smokescreen and innuendo right now.


But I heard someone phrase it thusly:


Imagine everything about the Vikings and Patriots was the same, except the Vikings had the #3 pick and the Patriots had the 11 and 23. Given the state of their rosters, there’s no question the Vikings would go QB at 3. But would there be any talk of the Patriots trying to trade up for 3? I doubt it. They’d be saying that having 2 first rounders is an excellent opportunity for them to give a bad roster a much-needed talent infusion.

Adding picks just makes a lot of sense for New England. Especially since Maye (of the top-3) is probably the most dependent on having talent around him.

I still don’t think the Patriots will be trading the no. 3 pick.
Just like I don’t think the Giants will be drafting a QB.

[Beef Supreme]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

It’s all smokescreen and innuendo right now.


But I heard someone phrase it thusly:


Imagine everything about the Vikings and Patriots was the same, except the Vikings had the #3 pick and the Patriots had the 11 and 23. Given the state of their rosters, there’s no question the Vikings would go QB at 3. But would there be any talk of the Patriots trying to trade up for 3? I doubt it. They’d be saying that having 2 first rounders is an excellent opportunity for them to give a bad roster a much-needed talent infusion.

Adding picks just makes a lot of sense for New England. Especially since Maye (of the top-3) is probably the most dependent on having talent around him.

I still don’t think the Patriots will be trading the no. 3 pick.
Just like I don’t think the Giants will be drafting a QB.

They might. I think the idea that you build up your roster and then get your QB once that is done has merit. Do the Patriots believe in that? I don’t know. But we’ve seen a lot of hotshot rookie QBs fail at least in part because of bad talent around them. See Justin Fields for a nearby recent example.

Also, they’ve directly said a lot of things indicating they’re willing to deal. I don’t know why they’d do that if it weren’t true.


I also think the giants don’t go QB unless a top guy falls and they can’t refuse. I don’t think they move up or reach for a next tier guy at 6. They can get one of the WRs with that pick and any of the three would really help them.

[Beef Supreme]

Then tell them to shut the fuck up and stop wasting everyone’s time.
If there’s a franchise QB available and I’m the team in that slot, then there’s no amount of comp that would make me trade out of it.

If that’s how you feel, then just shut up and let’s move on.

It’s all smokescreen and innuendo right now.


But I heard someone phrase it thusly:


Imagine everything about the Vikings and Patriots was the same, except the Vikings had the #3 pick and the Patriots had the 11 and 23. Given the state of their rosters, there’s no question the Vikings would go QB at 3. But would there be any talk of the Patriots trying to trade up for 3? I doubt it. They’d be saying that having 2 first rounders is an excellent opportunity for them to give a bad roster a much-needed talent infusion.

Adding picks just makes a lot of sense for New England. Especially since Maye (of the top-3) is probably the most dependent on having talent around him.

It was that last statement that got me, the "the opportunity that these three quarterbacks represent at the top of the Draft."

I envisioned this as a direct convo between Kwesi and Elliott Wolf, and Wolf ended with that phrase.
My response was intended in the voice of Kwesi, just being frustrated for having time wasted, because three firsts is perfectly inline with the market of previous trades.

If Wolf is now saying that is not enough and they're excited for the QBs, then you're not really in the market in the first place, because there really should be no number that is enough to walk away from a QB of this potential.

It’s all just negotiating. Kraft has all but said the pick is available for the right price. Wolf is just trying to make sure that price is as high as it can be.


That’s my read, anyway.

[-VikingsTw-]

It’s all just negotiating. Kraft has all but said the pick is available for the right price. Wolf is just trying to make sure that price is as high as it can be.


That’s my read, anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised by this.

The only thing is Kraft essentially saying 3 is nice but a team might be desperate for a QB. What does that look like in his mind?

Anything beyond the 3 firsts is way out line IMO. That's already a massive haul for an unknown speculative pick. 2nd round picks can usually get you a very good proven NFL player in a trade. Usually because someone isn't ready to pay him or it's just time for a change.

That's a lot of draft capital. 3 firsts... I think it's a risk Minn is fairly positioned for because of the cap next offseason and their ability to lure Free Agents.

Another cool thing it does do is puts a real emphasis on putting in the work for diamonds in the rough later in the draft. When you hit on those guys it changes everything and can overcome bad decisions early in the draft or not having those choices.

[weimy froob]

i'm saying that that report is much closer to the truth than not after reading what patriots fans are expecting from it too. they were asking for the moon to move off that spot.

[BigInflateable]

Rick Spielman likes him here too and said he’s going to be one of the better QBs in the draft.

We need to be finding something higher though.

I read about Spielman liking him alot and thought, " Ruh Row Raggy!" But in all seriousness he would probably be a nice 3 rd round pick or so. I would be all for the last rumor I've seen today with the Vikes picking Nix at 23. Going BPA at 11 and taking a later round flyer on Rattler would be fine with me.