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Twins Rotation… What now?
- Hornets
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Re: Twins Rotation… What now?
Funny how incredibly quick things can change. Early this year we were patting ourselves on the back for our 5 man rotation of Ryan, Mahle, Grey, Maeda, and Lopez. Next year I could easily see 3 of those 5 gone with only Ryan and Lopez remaining....
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- weimy froob
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twins starters have pitched the most innings in the major leagues this season. Fangraphs has the Twins' pitching staff ranked No. 1 in WAR (wins above replacement player) in all of baseball.
Twins' imported pitching — Sonny Gray, Joe Ryan, Pablo López and more — saving season
Baseball boss Derek Falvey has built the team's staff largely from outside the organization.
If the Twins were producing more runs, and if their bullpen hadn't encountered so many problems, the prevailing story of their season would be the construction and success of their rotation.
Sunday, the Twins rode another quality start to a series victory, as Bailey Ober pitched six strong innings in a 6-3. 10-inning victory at Detroit.
Sonny Gray ranks third in the American League in ERA, at 2.56. Joe Ryan ranks eighth, at 2.98. Pablo López ranks sixth in innings pitched; Ryan ranks ninth.
Ober has a 2.97 ERA. Kenta Maeda returned to the rotation Friday night with five shutout innings and eight strikeouts...The Twins are just one game over .500, but their run differential indicates they could be just a little more offensive production from becoming a quality team. Despite all of their injuries and bullpen shuffling, they are a plus-34 in run differential. That would be the second-best run differential in the much-celebrated American League East.
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-t ... 600285232/
Twins' imported pitching — Sonny Gray, Joe Ryan, Pablo López and more — saving season
Baseball boss Derek Falvey has built the team's staff largely from outside the organization.
If the Twins were producing more runs, and if their bullpen hadn't encountered so many problems, the prevailing story of their season would be the construction and success of their rotation.
Sunday, the Twins rode another quality start to a series victory, as Bailey Ober pitched six strong innings in a 6-3. 10-inning victory at Detroit.
Sonny Gray ranks third in the American League in ERA, at 2.56. Joe Ryan ranks eighth, at 2.98. Pablo López ranks sixth in innings pitched; Ryan ranks ninth.
Ober has a 2.97 ERA. Kenta Maeda returned to the rotation Friday night with five shutout innings and eight strikeouts...The Twins are just one game over .500, but their run differential indicates they could be just a little more offensive production from becoming a quality team. Despite all of their injuries and bullpen shuffling, they are a plus-34 in run differential. That would be the second-best run differential in the much-celebrated American League East.
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-t ... 600285232/
- salamander
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This is all well and fine but it's far too rose colored for my taste. The #3 team in our division has a -70 run differential and is only 4.5 games back. That shouldn't NOT be happening. If this was a good team, we'd have a double digit lead in our terrible division at minimum. Not a 1.5 game lead over the a bad Guardians team. We had a chance to completely put our boot on the Tigers throat and then went and lost 4 out of 7 against them. Pathetic.weimy froob wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:56 pm twins starters have pitched the most innings in the major leagues this season. Fangraphs has the Twins' pitching staff ranked No. 1 in WAR (wins above replacement player) in all of baseball.
Twins' imported pitching — Sonny Gray, Joe Ryan, Pablo López and more — saving season
Baseball boss Derek Falvey has built the team's staff largely from outside the organization.
If the Twins were producing more runs, and if their bullpen hadn't encountered so many problems, the prevailing story of their season would be the construction and success of their rotation.
Sunday, the Twins rode another quality start to a series victory, as Bailey Ober pitched six strong innings in a 6-3. 10-inning victory at Detroit.
Sonny Gray ranks third in the American League in ERA, at 2.56. Joe Ryan ranks eighth, at 2.98. Pablo López ranks sixth in innings pitched; Ryan ranks ninth.
Ober has a 2.97 ERA. Kenta Maeda returned to the rotation Friday night with five shutout innings and eight strikeouts...The Twins are just one game over .500, but their run differential indicates they could be just a little more offensive production from becoming a quality team. Despite all of their injuries and bullpen shuffling, they are a plus-34 in run differential. That would be the second-best run differential in the much-celebrated American League East.
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-t ... 600285232/
There are 11 teams who are not leading their division that are better than us. We have the worst record in the league compared to all other division leaders.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
- weimy froob
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In the past six games, Twins starting pitchers have a 0.88 ERA with 51 strikeouts in 41 innings.
- ForCaleb
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Curious what the record is at a 50IP stretch.weimy froob wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:35 am In the past six games, Twins starting pitchers have a 0.88 ERA with 51 strikeouts in 41 innings.
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pretty sure he's second in the league.
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Do-Hyoung Park
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Every pitcher in #MNTwins history with a scoreless outing of 12+ strikeouts and 0 walks:
Pablo López
José Berríos
Johan Santana
Jim Kaat
Camilo Pascual
@dohyoungpark
Every pitcher in #MNTwins history with a scoreless outing of 12+ strikeouts and 0 walks:
Pablo López
José Berríos
Johan Santana
Jim Kaat
Camilo Pascual
- weimy froob
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Re: Twins Rotation… What now?
Do-Hyoung Park
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Bailey Ober finishes his first half with a 2.61 ERA and 79 strikeouts in 82 2/3 innings across 14 starts. Six of his final seven starts of the half were quality starts, and he completed at least five innings in all 14 of his starts.
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Bailey Ober finishes his first half with a 2.61 ERA and 79 strikeouts in 82 2/3 innings across 14 starts. Six of his final seven starts of the half were quality starts, and he completed at least five innings in all 14 of his starts.
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Re: Twins Rotation… What now?
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Joe Ryan didn't allow multiple homers in any of his first 10 starts of the season, but has since done so four times in the last eight starts.
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Joe Ryan didn't allow multiple homers in any of his first 10 starts of the season, but has since done so four times in the last eight starts.
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Re: Twins Rotation… What now?
The rotation is great, but they can't hit for shit.
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- ForCaleb
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Ober has QS last six outings....Helluva year.
37 IP
37 K
5 BB
37 IP
37 K
5 BB
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Do-Hyoung Park
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Kenta Maeda in eight starts since coming off the IL: 43.2 IP, 12 ER (2.47 ERA) 13 BB, 58 K
5.0 IP, 0 ER, 8 K
5.0 IP, 1 ER, 4 K
7.0 IP, 1 ER, 9 K
3.0 IP, 3 ER, 6 K
6.1 IP, 2 ER, 9 K
6.1 IP, 1 ER, 8 K
5.0 IP, 2 ER, 7 K
6.0 IP, 1 ER, 7 K
@dohyoungpark
Kenta Maeda in eight starts since coming off the IL: 43.2 IP, 12 ER (2.47 ERA) 13 BB, 58 K
5.0 IP, 0 ER, 8 K
5.0 IP, 1 ER, 4 K
7.0 IP, 1 ER, 9 K
3.0 IP, 3 ER, 6 K
6.1 IP, 2 ER, 9 K
6.1 IP, 1 ER, 8 K
5.0 IP, 2 ER, 7 K
6.0 IP, 1 ER, 7 K
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Ted
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If this is the #MNTwins third starter come the postseason, they’ve done well.
Ted
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If this is the #MNTwins third starter come the postseason, they’ve done well.
- weimy froob
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Kenta Maeda: "Everything body wise and arm, is feeling good. I keep saying this again and again, but there's nothing concerning in the arm. If anything, I feel better than pre-surgery."
Also credited Ryan Jeffers: "I really love his pitch calling."
Also credited Ryan Jeffers: "I really love his pitch calling."
- feekdogg
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Everyone has been kind of assuming Maeda won't be back next year. Wonder if he'd accept a 2-year deal for like 25 million.
- Hornets
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Yeah, will be interesting to see how the starting 5 pan out. Crazy to think we had Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ryan, and Lopez penciled in to start the year and there's a decent chance only Lopez and Ryan will be in Minnesota next year. Just when you think you have yourself a solid rotation, BOOM.....then you don't.
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- ForCaleb
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Lopez last 3 outings solidifying himself as the Ace:
20 IP
21 K
3 ER
1 BB
MLB rankings:
IP - 6th
K's - 3rd
QS - 9th
20 IP
21 K
3 ER
1 BB
MLB rankings:
IP - 6th
K's - 3rd
QS - 9th
- Hornets
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Preview of round 1 of the playoffs?
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- ForCaleb
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Rocco said there isn't any innings restrictions on him this year, but i'm wondering if his arm is tired?
- weimy froob
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i'd have to think he's pitching for his spot in the rotation tonight. at least for one turn. if he bombs bring up the dobber to take his place for the next one.
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Joe Ryan threw a bullpen today and is expected to head on a rehab assignment this week. Details to come later.
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Joe Ryan threw a bullpen today and is expected to head on a rehab assignment this week. Details to come later.
- weimy froob
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Re: Twins Rotation… What now?
if they're thinking of putting maeda in the bullpen for the playoffs then they must be thinking of ryan being the third starter. hopefully they skip ober's next start that would be in texas.
Ted
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The fatigue/problems for Ober/Ryan are concerning. Would prefer to see Keuchel in one of their spots with either as a piggyback.
Ted
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The fatigue/problems for Ober/Ryan are concerning. Would prefer to see Keuchel in one of their spots with either as a piggyback.
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I didn't see the game last night, but Ryan's line looked fine for his first start back. I would assume he's the #3 if he can approach the performance he had pre injury.weimy froob wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:29 pm if they're thinking of putting maeda in the bullpen for the playoffs then they must be thinking of ryan being the third starter. hopefully they skip ober's next start that would be in texas.
Ted
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The fatigue/problems for Ober/Ryan are concerning. Would prefer to see Keuchel in one of their spots with either as a piggyback.
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