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***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Best thing about Fince in that HOU game was calling a TO when our starters weren't hitting any shots and playing sloppy in the 3rd.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
spot on. i thought the same thing. lead had gone from 30 to 20 in a flash and the starters looked clueless. boom. TO and we turned it right back around.
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Hmmmm..... I don't think I can agree with your all-NBA team in your signature. Where are the Nerdlucks?somuchyummy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:18 am spot on. i thought the same thing. lead had gone from 30 to 20 in a flash and the starters looked clueless. boom. TO and we turned it right back around.
Pound, Bang, Nawt, Bupkus and Blanko.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
not following - and perhaps you don't know how those teams are chosen. it was the all-time froobdraft (i think?) 2020 we did awhile ago. i think we had only 10 froobs participate - draft order is mostly snaked. so, no, this is not my all-time all-time team. it's my all-time team when my first pick is 8 (Wilt) and my second pick is 12 (Curry) and so on. we'll do one again, i'm sure. you should play. if you want to see how it all shaked out, my guess is the thread has slunk well back on the wolves page - probably start looking around page 20.salamander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:03 pmHmmmm..... I don't think I can agree with your all-NBA team in your signature. Where are the Nerdlucks?somuchyummy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:18 am spot on. i thought the same thing. lead had gone from 30 to 20 in a flash and the starters looked clueless. boom. TO and we turned it right back around.
Pound, Bang, Nawt, Bupkus and Blanko.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Finch going with Jmac in the 4th was an eye opener and refreshing. I see you Finch.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Finchy, u been reading this board?
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Yeah, that tells you he's willing to adjust which is a good thing....morneaumvp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:44 pmAnd now Jmac is benched for Balmaro
I did like Prince in the starting lineup today
Now, it doesn't help if he's not given a decent PF if when Towns gets fouled out.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
He's lost all his good will!!!!!!!!
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Terrible coach!!
This just reaffirms that Finch is the man for the job. Coach is set and now just gotta tweak the roster until everything clicks.jace frederick
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Kevin Durant said the Wolves were trying to muck it up with various defensive looks without KAT, which he respected
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James Harden with high praise for Chris Finch's defense. Said the Wolves were scrambling and double and tripling at times. Said it was tough to get any kind of flow.
“We will protect the fanbase from Glen Taylor” -Alex Rodriguez.
Marc Lore - “I don’t care if that wrinkly old chicken roaster has a few more hairs on his head than I do, a deal is a deal.”
Marc Lore - “I don’t care if that wrinkly old chicken roaster has a few more hairs on his head than I do, a deal is a deal.”
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Sure, Our defense looks legit, but offense, that's a whole nother subjectflexbuffchest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:27 am Terrible coach!!
This just reaffirms that Finch is the man for the job. Coach is set and now just gotta tweak the roster until everything clicks.jace frederick
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Kevin Durant said the Wolves were trying to muck it up with various defensive looks without KAT, which he respected
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James Harden with high praise for Chris Finch's defense. Said the Wolves were scrambling and double and tripling at times. Said it was tough to get any kind of flow.
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So it's been a good chunk of the season and at this point we can safely say what kind of team this is. Somehow finch has turned this team into a top 10 defense but the overall team offense had sucked ass (24th).
So are you guys happy with how improved our defense has gotten but how our offense has struggled or would you rather have it the other way around?
I'm very happy with what is happening now because the defense is legit and mainly due to Vanderbilt essentially willing the entire team to play better defense. Ant still can loaf around when playing team defense but his 1-1 defense is getting REALLY good and he is improving by leaps and bounds anticipating passing Lanes ....
The offense I am worried but given the sheer talent on that side I am more confident of that improving
So are you guys happy with how improved our defense has gotten but how our offense has struggled or would you rather have it the other way around?
I'm very happy with what is happening now because the defense is legit and mainly due to Vanderbilt essentially willing the entire team to play better defense. Ant still can loaf around when playing team defense but his 1-1 defense is getting REALLY good and he is improving by leaps and bounds anticipating passing Lanes ....
The offense I am worried but given the sheer talent on that side I am more confident of that improving
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
It's pretty cliched, but defense can be a constant even when you're shooting poorly so I'm glad that has improved.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:09 am So it's been a good chunk of the season and at this point we can safely say what kind of team this is. Somehow finch has turned this team into a top 10 defense but the overall team offense had sucked ass (24th).
So are you guys happy with how improved our defense has gotten but how our offense has struggled or would you rather have it the other way around?
I'm very happy with what is happening now because the defense is legit and mainly due to Vanderbilt essentially willing the entire team to play better defense. Ant still can loaf around when playing team defense but his 1-1 defense is getting REALLY good and he is improving by leaps and bounds anticipating passing Lanes ....
The offense I am worried but given the sheer talent on that side I am more confident of that improving
Offensively they're running an analytics sort of Houston style thing of all 3's and bunnies. However, they're in the bottom of 1/3 in FT attempts per game and I think that's due to leading the league in 3PA's per game. They also shoot in the bottom 1/3 in 3 point percentage so it'd be helpful if they had some better shooters as role players.
I'd like to see another ball handler who can attack the rim to open up the floor.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
So this is kind of cool. The 5 man line up of Bev, Russell, KAT, Vanderbilt and Edwards has played 142 minutes together with a net rating of +50.5.
In the entire league with a minimum of 100 minutes played that is by far the best. The second best is only 34.5! Heck if you went down to 5 man lineups with a minimum of 40 minutes played the Wolves still are #1 by a huge margin
We coming?
In the entire league with a minimum of 100 minutes played that is by far the best. The second best is only 34.5! Heck if you went down to 5 man lineups with a minimum of 40 minutes played the Wolves still are #1 by a huge margin
We coming?
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
You know the answer to that my man!flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:27 pm So this is kind of cool. The 5 man line up of Bev, Russell, KAT, Vanderbilt and Edwards has played 142 minutes together with a net rating of +50.5.
In the entire league with a minimum of 100 minutes played that is by far the best. The second best is only 34.5! Heck if you went down to 5 man lineups with a minimum of 40 minutes played the Wolves still are #1 by a huge margin
We coming?
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Oh my God, I just jizzed in my pants reading that.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:27 am Terrible coach!!
This just reaffirms that Finch is the man for the job. Coach is set and now just gotta tweak the roster until everything clicks.jace frederick
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Kevin Durant said the Wolves were trying to muck it up with various defensive looks without KAT, which he respected
Alex Schiffer
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James Harden with high praise for Chris Finch's defense. Said the Wolves were scrambling and double and tripling at times. Said it was tough to get any kind of flow.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Overall I think Finch has done a tremendous job of bringing this team from a cellar dweller to probably league average. That's a great jump.
I don't particularly have a stance on which is better in terms of offense vs. defense. I'd probably prefer the offense to be better, but it's a horse a piece. My logic is that during crucial moments of the game a poor defense can get bailed out by a missed shot or turnover. A poor offense is pretty much just doomed.
I'd like to see Finch get more creative with getting KAT looks. He's not getting up enough shots per game. I think part of our low FT rate is a roster of guys who just struggle to create. Nowell's continued emergence is huge for this team. I'd still like another guy who can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim/draw a foul. Right now it's Ant, a little bit of Nowell, and that's about it.
It's fun having a team where specific roles are the targets rather than just a need for any talent.
Next up: A defending/rebounding big, a bench bucket getter, and some more veteran bench stability.
I don't particularly have a stance on which is better in terms of offense vs. defense. I'd probably prefer the offense to be better, but it's a horse a piece. My logic is that during crucial moments of the game a poor defense can get bailed out by a missed shot or turnover. A poor offense is pretty much just doomed.
I'd like to see Finch get more creative with getting KAT looks. He's not getting up enough shots per game. I think part of our low FT rate is a roster of guys who just struggle to create. Nowell's continued emergence is huge for this team. I'd still like another guy who can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim/draw a foul. Right now it's Ant, a little bit of Nowell, and that's about it.
It's fun having a team where specific roles are the targets rather than just a need for any talent.
Next up: A defending/rebounding big, a bench bucket getter, and some more veteran bench stability.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
I'm starting to think that it's Kat who is hesitant to shit more. After so many coaches and him being given the green light he just hasn't seized the opportunity. I want him to because he is one of the better scorers in the league but it just seems like he doesn't want to.Style wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:59 am Overall I think Finch has done a tremendous job of bringing this team from a cellar dweller to probably league average. That's a great jump.
I don't particularly have a stance on which is better in terms of offense vs. defense. I'd probably prefer the offense to be better, but it's a horse a piece. My logic is that during crucial moments of the game a poor defense can get bailed out by a missed shot or turnover. A poor offense is pretty much just doomed.
I'd like to see Finch get more creative with getting KAT looks. He's not getting up enough shots per game. I think part of our low FT rate is a roster of guys who just struggle to create. Nowell's continued emergence is huge for this team. I'd still like another guy who can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim/draw a foul. Right now it's Ant, a little bit of Nowell, and that's about it.
It's fun having a team where specific roles are the targets rather than just a need for any talent.
Next up: A defending/rebounding big, a bench bucket getter, and some more veteran bench stability.
There is no way I will ever believe that Finch has let Edwards get the green light to shoot whenever but is holding KAT back
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
With a head coach's salary, Chris Finch can afford a better hair cut. This is indisputable.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
This.T_J wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:26 amIt's pretty cliched, but defense can be a constant even when you're shooting poorly so I'm glad that has improved.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:09 am So it's been a good chunk of the season and at this point we can safely say what kind of team this is. Somehow finch has turned this team into a top 10 defense but the overall team offense had sucked ass (24th).
So are you guys happy with how improved our defense has gotten but how our offense has struggled or would you rather have it the other way around?
I'm very happy with what is happening now because the defense is legit and mainly due to Vanderbilt essentially willing the entire team to play better defense. Ant still can loaf around when playing team defense but his 1-1 defense is getting REALLY good and he is improving by leaps and bounds anticipating passing Lanes ....
The offense I am worried but given the sheer talent on that side I am more confident of that improving
Offensively they're running an analytics sort of Houston style thing of all 3's and bunnies. However, they're in the bottom of 1/3 in FT attempts per game and I think that's due to leading the league in 3PA's per game. They also shoot in the bottom 1/3 in 3 point percentage so it'd be helpful if they had some better shooters as role players.
I'd like to see another ball handler who can attack the rim to open up the floor.
Our D is really good.
Our flaws on O is we have no big that plays above the rim and can put pressure on the D.
We are not shooting that well from 3
We do not have a breakdown point. Ant is the best we have and his game is still developing. DLO doesn’t break anyone down, his game is all about length and positioning.
I think 1 and 3 is not happening this year. 2 may slightly improve to historical but we will have to live and die with 3 and D it seems
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
And a new wardrobe. At least unzip the 1/4 zip pullover man. No reason to have that thing zipped ALL THE WAY UP.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Hey, if the man wants to be NBA’s Belichick, let him.
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Fair. I stand corrected.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
zipped all the way up is how us plus 50 guys like to wear that attire. it's called "style".
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Easier to hide those prison tattoos
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Team is significantly better this year overall but:
Not seeing enough run stopping offensive sets.
Not seeing enough defensive adjustments in-game. Teams find a pick n roll weakness and go to it over and over successfully.
We’re losing winnable games that strategic coaching opportunities could affect.
Remove Beverly and his influences this season and not sure the Wolves are playing the same level of D.
Vando and Nowell’s development are bright spots
ANT goes missing to often. Do not see enough sets to get him going and involved.
KAT has peaked if coaches can’t develop his game against physical D.
Not seeing enough run stopping offensive sets.
Not seeing enough defensive adjustments in-game. Teams find a pick n roll weakness and go to it over and over successfully.
We’re losing winnable games that strategic coaching opportunities could affect.
Remove Beverly and his influences this season and not sure the Wolves are playing the same level of D.
Vando and Nowell’s development are bright spots
ANT goes missing to often. Do not see enough sets to get him going and involved.
KAT has peaked if coaches can’t develop his game against physical D.
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Good points.populousample wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:48 am Team is significantly better this year overall but:
Not seeing enough run stopping offensive sets.
Not seeing enough defensive adjustments in-game. Teams find a pick n roll weakness and go to it over and over successfully.
We’re losing winnable games that strategic coaching opportunities could affect.
Remove Beverly and his influences this season and not sure the Wolves are playing the same level of D.
Vando and Nowell’s development are bright spots
ANT goes missing to often. Do not see enough sets to get him going and involved.
KAT has peaked if coaches can’t develop his game against physical D.
Most of all, I’m tired of us losing our coo when down / and being smug when we’re up.
Finch needs to think a little bit more about our team staying even keeled and our collective mental approach.
Pop was great at that. Try to emulate his calm. Get the team to buy into that.
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Last nights game Finch let the team continue to run and push the ball as things unraveled in the 3rd. Basically feeding the ATL momentum. No problem playing with pace but in those situations it is helpful to leverage that pace to get into an offensive sets that puts pressure back on the opponent by creating high % looks. Converting in those sets is what stems the tide and takes an opponent out of rhythm. The effectiveness of the team getting into and executing those set is what helps regain control of a game. Watch PHX, they’ve mastered that. Much of it feeding off of Booker’s willingness to move without the ball, running off of picks in those sets. Monte doesn’t even need to call the sets because it is who they are.thinktank wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:48 amGood points.populousample wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:48 am Team is significantly better this year overall but:
Not seeing enough run stopping offensive sets.
Not seeing enough defensive adjustments in-game. Teams find a pick n roll weakness and go to it over and over successfully.
We’re losing winnable games that strategic coaching opportunities could affect.
Remove Beverly and his influences this season and not sure the Wolves are playing the same level of D.
Vando and Nowell’s development are bright spots
ANT goes missing to often. Do not see enough sets to get him going and involved.
KAT has peaked if coaches can’t develop his game against physical D.
Most of all, I’m tired of us losing our coo when down / and being smug when we’re up.
Finch needs to think a little bit more about our team staying even keeled and our collective mental approach.
Pop was great at that. Try to emulate his calm. Get the team to buy into that.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Chris Finch: 87 games in
39-48 .450 winning %
W% rank: Flip 1, Thibs 2, Finch 3.
Stud.
39-48 .450 winning %
W% rank: Flip 1, Thibs 2, Finch 3.
Stud.
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Re: ***Official Chris Finch -Wolves Head Coach Thread***
Petersen breaks down the teams defense.
https://www.theringer.com/2022/1/26/229 ... olves-love
Starts at around the 49 minute mark.
https://www.theringer.com/2022/1/26/229 ... olves-love
Starts at around the 49 minute mark.
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