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Trade 1st for Stephon Gilmore

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Would you trade Vikings 2021 1st Round Pick

Yes, Gilmore is Top 3 Corner in the NFL
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No, we need to draft QB
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Trade 1st for Stephon Gilmore

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Patriots are trying to trade All Pro CB Stephon Gilmore before the 4pm trade deadline today.

New England says they want a first round pick in return.

Gilmore was the defensive player of the year last year

Vikings are probably gonna be 5-11, 7-9 at best so our pick is probably 10 range. Do you even trust Spielman to draft a QB?
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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It is a fallacy to suggest that Rick shouldn't be in charge of drafting the next QB.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:29 pm It is a fallacy to suggest that Rick shouldn't be in charge of drafting the next QB.
Baloney. Give me one good example or reason why he should be. Even you cant defend his qb handling.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:27 pm Patriots are trying to trade All Pro CB Stephon Gilmore before the 4pm trade deadline today.

New England says they want a first round pick in return.

Gilmore was the defensive player of the year last year

Vikings are probably gonna be 5-11, 7-9 at best so our pick is probably 10 range. Do you even trust Spielman to draft a QB?
The rumor is they want a 1st and a player.

And no I don't do this trade. Makes no sense for us.

I'm not taking into consideration drafting a QB either as I don't think that will happen. I just don't want another big contract and a guy who is 30 years old.
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Reported Gilmore put his Massachusetts home on the market and Patriots want a 1st for him.

1st and Kyle Rudolph should do it.
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:29 pm It is a fallacy to suggest that Rick shouldn't be in charge of drafting the next QB.
Baloney. Give me one good example or reason why he should be. Even you cant defend his qb handling.
That doesn't make it so it's not a fallacy.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:34 pm Reported Gilmore put his Massachusetts home on the market and Patriots want a 1st for him.

1st and Kyle Rudolph should do it.
He's 30 years old. Fuck no.

No one is giving the Patriots that.

I wouldn't even offer a 3rd.
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:35 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:29 pm It is a fallacy to suggest that Rick shouldn't be in charge of drafting the next QB.
Baloney. Give me one good example or reason why he should be. Even you cant defend his qb handling.
That doesn't make it so it's not a fallacy.
Huh?
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Minnesota Vikings send 2021 1st round pick & Kyle Rudolph to the New England Patriots for All Pro & Defensive Player of the Year CB Stephon Gilmore. That moves Irv Smith into starting tight end. Danielle Hunter, Michael Pierce, Anthony Barr return next season. MN would be elite
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:36 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:34 pm Reported Gilmore put his Massachusetts home on the market and Patriots want a 1st for him.

1st and Kyle Rudolph should do it.
He's 30 years old. Fuck no.

No one is giving the Patriots that.

I wouldn't even offer a 3rd.
You of course would give a 3rd, get real.

Yes, you are correct, I will be shocked if they come within a mile of their ask.
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:36 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:36 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:34 pm Reported Gilmore put his Massachusetts home on the market and Patriots want a 1st for him.

1st and Kyle Rudolph should do it.
He's 30 years old. Fuck no.

No one is giving the Patriots that.

I wouldn't even offer a 3rd.
You of course would give a 3rd, get real.

Yes, you are correct, I will be shocked if they come within a mile of their ask.
Not at his age and where the Vikings are at. Adding Gilmore to this team next year doesn't make them championship caliber. He's 30 years old and probably on the decline.

Hell, why does Belichek want to dump him?
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:39 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:36 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:36 pm

He's 30 years old. Fuck no.

No one is giving the Patriots that.

I wouldn't even offer a 3rd.
You of course would give a 3rd, get real.

Yes, you are correct, I will be shocked if they come within a mile of their ask.
Not at his age and where the Vikings are at. Adding Gilmore to this team next year doesn't make them championship caliber. He's 30 years old and probably on the decline.

Hell, why does Belichek want to dump him?
Harris expiring 12 million. Rudy’s 10 million gone. That’s 22 million freed up. Mike Hughes career is over with multiple neck injuries.

Vikings Defense would be Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler. Harrison, Barr, Kendricks, Hunter, Pierce.

Offense: Kirk, Dalvin, Irv, Theilen, Jefferson.

No rebuild. We stay competing!

Get it done Wilfs!
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:45 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:39 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:36 pm

You of course would give a 3rd, get real.

Yes, you are correct, I will be shocked if they come within a mile of their ask.
Not at his age and where the Vikings are at. Adding Gilmore to this team next year doesn't make them championship caliber. He's 30 years old and probably on the decline.

Hell, why does Belichek want to dump him?
Harris expiring 12 million. Rudy’s 10 million gone. That’s 22 million freed up. Mike Hughes career is over with multiple neck injuries.

Vikings Defense would be Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler. Harrison, Barr, Kendricks, Hunter, Pierce.

Offense: Kirk, Dalvin, Irv, Theilen, Jefferson.

No rebuild. We stay competing!

Get it done Wilfs!
Mike Hughes is done. He was done before the neck injury. Complete bust of a pick.

Still don't want Gilmore. There is no way and hell you give up a 1st when you are sitting at 2-5 for player who will be 31 next year.

Imagine if this team finshed 3-13 and has a shot at one of the top QBs and you traded it away for a CB who will be 31 next year.

That's next level stupidity.
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Re: Stephon Gilmore Available

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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:47 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:45 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:39 pm

Not at his age and where the Vikings are at. Adding Gilmore to this team next year doesn't make them championship caliber. He's 30 years old and probably on the decline.

Hell, why does Belichek want to dump him?
Harris expiring 12 million. Rudy’s 10 million gone. That’s 22 million freed up. Mike Hughes career is over with multiple neck injuries.

Vikings Defense would be Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler. Harrison, Barr, Kendricks, Hunter, Pierce.

Offense: Kirk, Dalvin, Irv, Theilen, Jefferson.

No rebuild. We stay competing!

Get it done Wilfs!
Mike Hughes is done. He was done before the neck injury. Complete bust of a pick.

Still don't want Gilmore. There is no way and hell you give up a 1st when you are sitting at 2-5 for player who will be 31 next year.


He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:47 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:45 pm

Harris expiring 12 million. Rudy’s 10 million gone. That’s 22 million freed up. Mike Hughes career is over with multiple neck injuries.

Vikings Defense would be Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler. Harrison, Barr, Kendricks, Hunter, Pierce.

Offense: Kirk, Dalvin, Irv, Theilen, Jefferson.

No rebuild. We stay competing!

Get it done Wilfs!
Mike Hughes is done. He was done before the neck injury. Complete bust of a pick.

Still don't want Gilmore. There is no way and hell you give up a 1st when you are sitting at 2-5 for player who will be 31 next year.


He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:51 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:47 pm

Mike Hughes is done. He was done before the neck injury. Complete bust of a pick.

Still don't want Gilmore. There is no way and hell you give up a 1st when you are sitting at 2-5 for player who will be 31 next year.


He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.

1st and Rudy for Gilmore.

Vikings defense next year

Harrison, Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler

Kendricks & Barr

Ifeadi, Pierce, Shamar, Hunter
Wonnum, Lynch, Holmes, Hercules

Offense

Kirk

Dalvin, Mattison, Hamm

Adam, Jefferson, Bisi, Irv

Ezra, Bradbury, O Neal.

Still got two 3rds, two 4ths, two 5ths to draft more guards.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:51 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm



He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.

1st and Rudy for Gilmore.

Vikings defense next year

Harrison, Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler

Kendricks & Barr

Ifeadi, Pierce, Shamar, Hunter
Wonnum, Lynch, Holmes, Hercules

Offense

Kirk

Dalvin, Mattison, Hamm

Adam, Jefferson, Bisi, Irv

Ezra, Bradbury, O Neal.

Still got two 3rds, two 4ths, two 5ths to draft more guards.
No.

And you will see by the deadline, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for him.

I highly doubt Bill wants a 30 year old Rudy either. We need to stop thinking to send every white player to NE :lol:

What if Kirk broke his leg on Sunday? You are now in the convo for Lawrence and you just gave it away for a wrong side of 30 CB. No way.

Better idea, Fade. Call up Bill and offer them the Detroit Lakes Diva straight up for Gilmore.

That's a deal I do. :thumbsup:
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Can't do it. No way. Maybe if we were 5-2.

6th for Desmond King I would've loved.

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Patriots acquire slot wide receiver Isaiah Ford from Dolphins

Packers trying to acquire Will Fuller before the trade deadline at 4pm
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:51 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm



He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.

1st and Rudy for Gilmore.

Vikings defense next year

Harrison, Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler

Kendricks & Barr

Ifeadi, Pierce, Shamar, Hunter
Wonnum, Lynch, Holmes, Hercules

Offense

Kirk

Dalvin, Mattison, Hamm

Adam, Jefferson, Bisi, Irv

Ezra, Bradbury, O Neal.

Still got two 3rds, two 4ths, two 5ths to draft more guards.


Good Lord. :lol:
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:51 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:47 pm

Mike Hughes is done. He was done before the neck injury. Complete bust of a pick.

Still don't want Gilmore. There is no way and hell you give up a 1st when you are sitting at 2-5 for player who will be 31 next year.


He’s top 2 corner in the league

With Kirk stuck here for two season. Might as well go all in for super bowl
Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.
:lol:

You are a treat. So, like I said, of course you would give them a fucking 3rd for the best corner in the league. :lol:

And your ripping this asinine notion of giving them a #1 is spot on. I will be shocked if anyone gives any #1 and certainly wont be a #1 and a player. Only if there is a legit post season team with a big corner injury or something.

Its beyond ludicrous to suggest a 2-5 team should dole out a #1 for a 30 year old corner. This has to be tongue in cheek or a bit or something.
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Gilmore might be the best corner in the league.. but the Vikings don't need what accounts for basically another 1st rd corner.
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:29 pm It is a fallacy to suggest that Rick shouldn't be in charge of drafting the next QB.
Baloney. Give me one good example or reason why he should be. Even you cant defend his qb handling.
But he will. Just bump his threads from the draft. This year he had an entire thread explaining to us all why we should never draft a quarterback. There is no bigger Rick supporter here than Ash. Obsessed with drafts, wrong on most picks, likes soccer better than football.

As long as Rick Spielman is our GM we are not going to win a Super Bowl! If he does I will never post in this site again and my last post will be a full apology for how wrong I was.

Rick Spielman has ruined this team by neglect.
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Can we trade Kirk Cousins for him?
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:51 pm

Can't give up your #1. Give them a 3rd then. You could do a 2nd but Rick pissed it away.

1st and Rudy for Gilmore.

Vikings defense next year

Harrison, Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler

Kendricks & Barr

Ifeadi, Pierce, Shamar, Hunter
Wonnum, Lynch, Holmes, Hercules

Offense

Kirk

Dalvin, Mattison, Hamm

Adam, Jefferson, Bisi, Irv

Ezra, Bradbury, O Neal.

Still got two 3rds, two 4ths, two 5ths to draft more guards.
No.

And you will see by the deadline, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for him.

I highly doubt Bill wants a 30 year old Rudy either. We need to stop thinking to send every white player to NE :lol:

What if Kirk broke his leg on Sunday? You are now in the convo for Lawrence and you just gave it away for a wrong side of 30 CB. No way.

Better idea, Fade. Call up Bill and offer them the Detroit Lakes Diva straight up for Gilmore.

That's a deal I do. :thumbsup:
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Norn_Iron wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 pm


1st and Rudy for Gilmore.

Vikings defense next year

Harrison, Gilmore, Gladney, Danztler

Kendricks & Barr

Ifeadi, Pierce, Shamar, Hunter
Wonnum, Lynch, Holmes, Hercules

Offense

Kirk

Dalvin, Mattison, Hamm

Adam, Jefferson, Bisi, Irv

Ezra, Bradbury, O Neal.

Still got two 3rds, two 4ths, two 5ths to draft more guards.
No.

And you will see by the deadline, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for him.

I highly doubt Bill wants a 30 year old Rudy either. We need to stop thinking to send every white player to NE :lol:

What if Kirk broke his leg on Sunday? You are now in the convo for Lawrence and you just gave it away for a wrong side of 30 CB. No way.

Better idea, Fade. Call up Bill and offer them the Detroit Lakes Diva straight up for Gilmore.

That's a deal I do. :thumbsup:
Im still reading through the thread, but as ever you are a ***nope***
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Norn_Iron wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm

No.

And you will see by the deadline, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for him.

I highly doubt Bill wants a 30 year old Rudy either. We need to stop thinking to send every white player to NE :lol:

What if Kirk broke his leg on Sunday? You are now in the convo for Lawrence and you just gave it away for a wrong side of 30 CB. No way.

Better idea, Fade. Call up Bill and offer them the Detroit Lakes Diva straight up for Gilmore.

That's a deal I do. :thumbsup:
Im still reading through the thread, but as ever you are a ***nope***
Thanks.
I'm sorry you are a ***nope***? :thinking:
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Norn_Iron wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm

No.

And you will see by the deadline, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for him.

I highly doubt Bill wants a 30 year old Rudy either. We need to stop thinking to send every white player to NE :lol:

What if Kirk broke his leg on Sunday? You are now in the convo for Lawrence and you just gave it away for a wrong side of 30 CB. No way.

Better idea, Fade. Call up Bill and offer them the Detroit Lakes Diva straight up for Gilmore.

That's a deal I do. :thumbsup:
Im still reading through the thread, but as ever you are a ***nope***
Thanks.
Spastic?

(i apologise, i don't know your correct terminology )
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Norn_Iron wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:39 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
Norn_Iron wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm

Im still reading through the thread, but as ever you are a ***nope***
Thanks.
Spastic?

(i apologise, i don't know your correct terminology )
Lol what did you call him? What letter does it start with.

Edit: It was the R word wasn't it. Tisk tisk.. :beer:
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lets go with "retread"
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