Cousins or Wentz?

[Da Gas Man]

What's up with the Eagles always having a ton of injuries? They seem to be the most injured team in the league year after year.

I don't want to get technical and all but let's just say it has to do with a deal with the devil to get that one super bowl win.

(not that I wouldn't take that same deal for the Vikings)

[Oriole81]

What's up with the Eagles always having a ton of injuries? They seem to be the most injured team in the league year after year.

I don't want to get technical and all but let's just say it has to do with a deal with the devil to get that one super bowl win.

(not that I wouldn't take that same deal for the Vikings)

or Kris Lindahl put a hex on them

[Slap Shot]

What's up with the Eagles always having a ton of injuries? They seem to be the most injured team in the league year after year.

Because fuck them that's why.

[Phrooster]

Wentz! captain kirk needs a perfect world to look competitive just like his coach

[Phrooster]

Wentz! captain kirk needs a perfect world to look competitive just like his coach

[dRUSH]

Cousins apologists have went from staning cousins to trying to find below average QBs who he is better than.

The correct answer is who cares. You can’t compete with the best teams in the league with these guys.

[Miley Cyrus]

Kurt.

[Beef Supreme]

Watched Philly beat Dallas. Carson is a shell of his former self. He looks like he’s playing scared. Like he doesn’t want to get hurt again.

He’s brutal, compared to where his track was ascending pre-injury.

[RubeTube]

Watched Philly beat Dallas. Carson is a shell of his former self. He looks like he’s playing scared. Like he doesn’t want to get hurt again.

He’s brutal, compared to where his track was ascending pre-injury.

Yep.

Much rather have Kirk.

[Beef Supreme]

Watched Philly beat Dallas. Carson is a shell of his former self. He looks like he’s playing scared. Like he doesn’t want to get hurt again.

He’s brutal, compared to where his track was ascending pre-injury.

Yep.

Much rather have Kirk.

Wind back the clock, though, and Wentz looked like a star in the making.


Maybe he gets it back someday? Who knows?

[RubeTube]

Watched Philly beat Dallas. Carson is a shell of his former self. He looks like he’s playing scared. Like he doesn’t want to get hurt again.

He’s brutal, compared to where his track was ascending pre-injury.

Yep.

Much rather have Kirk.

Wind back the clock, though, and Wentz looked like a star in the making.


Maybe he gets it back someday? Who knows?

That was one year. Plus there are rumors his teammates can't stand him.

He's not turning back the clock.

Kirk>>>>>>>Spentz

[cunningham]

No more retreads! Draft and groom our own guys. If the first doesn’t work draft another in a lower round the next year. Keep taking quarterbacks in nearly every draft until you hit.

We have got to solidify the most important position of the rest won’t matter.

But Fire Rick first for making anyone start a thread like this. How low can we go?

[cunningham]

Watched Philly beat Dallas. Carson is a shell of his former self. He looks like he’s playing scared. Like he doesn’t want to get hurt again.

He’s brutal, compared to where his track was ascending pre-injury.

Yep.

Much rather have Kirk.

Wind back the clock, though, and Wentz looked like a star in the making.


Maybe he gets it back someday? Who knows?

Yeah. It has been long enough now to evaluate him. There is a fine line between making excuses and just realizing a guy isn’t good enough all around to win it all. Both Kirk and Wentz are not good enough. Different things hold each one back.

It is why quarterbacks are so hard to evaluate. You have to take every angle to get the right fit for what your system requires. Even then you miss on quite a few.

We should just have Zimmer evaluate quarterbacks like he does cornerbacks.

[RubeTube]

No more retreads! Draft and groom our own guys. If the first doesn’t work draft another in a lower round the next year. Keep taking quarterbacks in nearly every draft until you hit.

We have got to solidify the most important position of the rest won’t matter.

But Fire Rick first for making anyone start a thread like this. How low can we go?

Not happening this year. Cousins just signed an extension, they won't be in position to get a top QB. Rick and Zim won't be fired. Go draft the best Olineman.

You are a moron with the "Just pick a QB to take one" argument.

You read PFT today? Redskins are desperate to trade your boy Haskins and said not one team is interested

Imagine if that rotten football team didn't completely waste that good pick.

I have no problem drafting a QB but it has to be the right guy. You don't just waste your top pick on a down year on someone like that.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Yep.

Much rather have Kirk.

Wind back the clock, though, and Wentz looked like a star in the making.


Maybe he gets it back someday? Who knows?

Yeah. It has been long enough now to evaluate him. There is a fine line between making excuses and just realizing a guy isn’t good enough all around to win it all. Both Kirk and Wentz are not good enough. Different things hold each one back.

It is why quarterbacks are so hard to evaluate. You have to take every angle to get the right fit for what your system requires. Even then you miss on quite a few.

We should just have Zimmer evaluate quarterbacks like he does cornerbacks.

Are you insane? We’d have a running back playing QB if Zimmer did the choosing.

[cunningham]

Wind back the clock, though, and Wentz looked like a star in the making.


Maybe he gets it back someday? Who knows?

Yeah. It has been long enough now to evaluate him. There is a fine line between making excuses and just realizing a guy isn’t good enough all around to win it all. Both Kirk and Wentz are not good enough. Different things hold each one back.

It is why quarterbacks are so hard to evaluate. You have to take every angle to get the right fit for what your system requires. Even then you miss on quite a few.

We should just have Zimmer evaluate quarterbacks like he does cornerbacks.

Are you insane? We’d have a running back playing QB if Zimmer did the choosing.

I have always wanted Lamar Jackson. My name is Cunningham after my favorite quarterback of all time. I love scramblers. Steve Young, Wilson, Keenum, Favre, and others are/we’re so fun to watch. Smart guys like Favre or Rodgers who can burn you on a penalty.

Basically everything Kirk Cousins is not.

[cunningham]

No more retreads! Draft and groom our own guys. If the first doesn’t work draft another in a lower round the next year. Keep taking quarterbacks in nearly every draft until you hit.

We have got to solidify the most important position of the rest won’t matter.

But Fire Rick first for making anyone start a thread like this. How low can we go?

Not happening this year. Cousins just signed an extension, they won't be in position to get a top QB. Rick and Zim won't be fired. Go draft the best Olineman.

You are a moron with the "Just pick a QB to take one" argument.

You read PFT today? Redskins are desperate to trade your boy Haskins and said not one team is interested

Imagine if that rotten football team didn't completely waste that good pick.

I have no problem drafting a QB but it has to be the right guy. You don't just waste your top pick on a down year on someone like that.

Is Ash one of your bits? Every year I bring up guys we could have taken a shot at at quarterback. Haskins was one name I threw out. Who knows why his fate would have been here. He would have sat on the bench for longer and probably just come in now. A year of Kubiak teaching him might have changed things. Who knows?

Waste a top pick? RS does it all the time. Why not address the most important position?

This team cannot win a Super Bowl without a Super Quarterback. I am so sick of mediocre players at a position that must be elite.

Kirk Cousins is not going to get us to the Super Bowl. Hell, this year he has barely been functional.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Yeah. It has been long enough now to evaluate him. There is a fine line between making excuses and just realizing a guy isn’t good enough all around to win it all. Both Kirk and Wentz are not good enough. Different things hold each one back.

It is why quarterbacks are so hard to evaluate. You have to take every angle to get the right fit for what your system requires. Even then you miss on quite a few.

We should just have Zimmer evaluate quarterbacks like he does cornerbacks.

Are you insane? We’d have a running back playing QB if Zimmer did the choosing.

I have always wanted Lamar Jackson. My name is Cunningham after my favorite quarterback of all time. I love scramblers. Steve Young, Wilson, Keenum, Favre, and others are/we’re so fun to watch. Smart guys like Favre or Rodgers who can burn you on a penalty.

Basically everything Kirk Cousins is not.

Those guys could all throw the ball. That’s not what Zimstone wants. He wants a guy like your hero Teddy because he loved his hand off capability.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

No more retreads! Draft and groom our own guys. If the first doesn’t work draft another in a lower round the next year. Keep taking quarterbacks in nearly every draft until you hit.

We have got to solidify the most important position of the rest won’t matter.

But Fire Rick first for making anyone start a thread like this. How low can we go?

Not happening this year. Cousins just signed an extension, they won't be in position to get a top QB. Rick and Zim won't be fired. Go draft the best Olineman.

You are a moron with the "Just pick a QB to take one" argument.

You read PFT today? Redskins are desperate to trade your boy Haskins and said not one team is interested

Imagine if that rotten football team didn't completely waste that good pick.

I have no problem drafting a QB but it has to be the right guy. You don't just waste your top pick on a down year on someone like that.

Is Ash one of your bits? Every year I bring up guys we could have taken a shot at at quarterback. Haskins was one name I threw out. Who knows why his fate would have been here. He would have sat on the bench for longer and probably just come in now. A year of Kubiak teaching him might have changed things. Who knows?

Waste a top pick? RS does it all the time. Why not address the most important position?

This team cannot win a Super Bowl without a Super Quarterback. I am so sick of mediocre players at a position that must be elite.

Kirk Cousins is not going to get us to the Super Bowl. Hell, this year he has barely been functional.

Name a QB that has developed to the point you would say they were better off with this club vs others. That’s your answer as to how Haskins would have done if things were different.

[cunningham]

Not happening this year. Cousins just signed an extension, they won't be in position to get a top QB. Rick and Zim won't be fired. Go draft the best Olineman.

You are a moron with the "Just pick a QB to take one" argument.

You read PFT today? Redskins are desperate to trade your boy Haskins and said not one team is interested

Imagine if that rotten football team didn't completely waste that good pick.

I have no problem drafting a QB but it has to be the right guy. You don't just waste your top pick on a down year on someone like that.

Is Ash one of your bits? Every year I bring up guys we could have taken a shot at at quarterback. Haskins was one name I threw out. Who knows why his fate would have been here. He would have sat on the bench for longer and probably just come in now. A year of Kubiak teaching him might have changed things. Who knows?

Waste a top pick? RS does it all the time. Why not address the most important position?

This team cannot win a Super Bowl without a Super Quarterback. I am so sick of mediocre players at a position that must be elite.

Kirk Cousins is not going to get us to the Super Bowl. Hell, this year he has barely been functional.

Name a QB that has developed to the point you would say they were better off with this club vs others. That’s your answer as to how Haskins would have done if things were different.

Culpepper.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Is Ash one of your bits? Every year I bring up guys we could have taken a shot at at quarterback. Haskins was one name I threw out. Who knows why his fate would have been here. He would have sat on the bench for longer and probably just come in now. A year of Kubiak teaching him might have changed things. Who knows?

Waste a top pick? RS does it all the time. Why not address the most important position?

This team cannot win a Super Bowl without a Super Quarterback. I am so sick of mediocre players at a position that must be elite.

Kirk Cousins is not going to get us to the Super Bowl. Hell, this year he has barely been functional.

Name a QB that has developed to the point you would say they were better off with this club vs others. That’s your answer as to how Haskins would have done if things were different.

Culpepper.

Really? A guy that last played for the Vikings in 2005, and had a record during that span of 38-42? I guess you do like Cousins then. Hey dummy, I mean the current regime.

[cunningham]

Name a QB that has developed to the point you would say they were better off with this club vs others. That’s your answer as to how Haskins would have done if things were different.

Culpepper.

Really? A guy that last played for the Vikings in 2005, and had a record during that span of 38-42? I guess you do like Cousins then. Hey dummy, I mean the current regime.

Keenum.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Culpepper.

Really? A guy that last played for the Vikings in 2005, and had a record during that span of 38-42? I guess you do like Cousins then. Hey dummy, I mean the current regime.

Keenum.

Really? He developed here, where he was better off in his career because of it? Might wanna check the record on that pal.

[cunningham]

Really? A guy that last played for the Vikings in 2005, and had a record during that span of 38-42? I guess you do like Cousins then. Hey dummy, I mean the current regime.

Keenum.

Really? He developed here, where he was better off in his career because of it? Might wanna check the record on that pal.

He wasn’t that old when he came and he looked good under Shurmur.

I get it though. It is kind of chicken or the egg. We have drafted Teddy and Ponder with the GM in the high rounds and both were not that good.

But. We were getting better. Rick jumped the shark with Bradford and doubled down with Cousins. Had he kept drafting quarterbacks he seemed to be getting better, but once he spent a first rounder on Bradford he has not recovered. He did bring in Keenum, but he also went Cousins to follow.

Kubiak might be overrated at this point. He couldn’t develop Keenum, Cousins looks to be regressing, and his big Super Bow win was maybe more luck than anything. I really liked him, but man does Cousins look bad this year.

Spielman reached for Ponder and reluctantly took Teddy over Johnny Football. Imagine had we went that way.

I had high hopes for Rick, but ever since Bradford I’ve felt he should have been traded. I’d still like to know why Turner left that year.

We can’t develop a quarterback unless we draft one. Haskins is old news. We need our own guy.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Keenum.

Really? He developed here, where he was better off in his career because of it? Might wanna check the record on that pal.

He wasn’t that old when he came and he looked good under Shurmur.

I get it though. It is kind of chicken or the egg. We have drafted Teddy and Ponder with the GM in the high rounds and both were not that good.

But. We were getting better. Rick jumped the shark with Bradford and doubled down with Cousins. Had he kept drafting quarterbacks he seemed to be getting better, but once he spent a first rounder on Bradford he has not recovered. He did bring in Keenum, but he also went Cousins to follow.

Kubiak might be overrated at this point. He couldn’t develop Keenum, Cousins looks to be regressing, and his big Super Bow win was maybe more luck than anything. I really liked him, but man does Cousins look bad this year.

Spielman reached for Ponder and reluctantly took Teddy over Johnny Football. Imagine had we went that way.

I had high hopes for Rick, but ever since Bradford I’ve felt he should have been traded. I’d still like to know why Turner left that year.

We can’t develop a quarterback unless we draft one. Haskins is old news. We need our own guy.

Blah blah words, no one’s reading your manifestos. No, you don’t get the point. I said DEVELOPED. Keenum was good one year. That’s not an example of a QB that was DEVELOPED by this organization. How’s he been since that year? I assume really well since you believe the Vikings developed a great QB.

[cunningham]

Really? He developed here, where he was better off in his career because of it? Might wanna check the record on that pal.

He wasn’t that old when he came and he looked good under Shurmur.

I get it though. It is kind of chicken or the egg. We have drafted Teddy and Ponder with the GM in the high rounds and both were not that good.

But. We were getting better. Rick jumped the shark with Bradford and doubled down with Cousins. Had he kept drafting quarterbacks he seemed to be getting better, but once he spent a first rounder on Bradford he has not recovered. He did bring in Keenum, but he also went Cousins to follow.

Kubiak might be overrated at this point. He couldn’t develop Keenum, Cousins looks to be regressing, and his big Super Bow win was maybe more luck than anything. I really liked him, but man does Cousins look bad this year.

Spielman reached for Ponder and reluctantly took Teddy over Johnny Football. Imagine had we went that way.

I had high hopes for Rick, but ever since Bradford I’ve felt he should have been traded. I’d still like to know why Turner left that year.

We can’t develop a quarterback unless we draft one. Haskins is old news. We need our own guy.

Blah blah words, no one’s reading your manifestos. No, you don’t get the point. I said DEVELOPED. Keenum was good one year. That’s not an example of a QB that was DEVELOPED by this organization. How’s he been since that year? I assume really well since you believe the Vikings developed a great QB.

Blah, blah, blah...

Kubiak tried to develop Keenum in Houston, but failed miserably. He also has failed to do anything with Cousins.

We have not developed a quarterback. What is your point? We also have done a shitty job finding an already developed quarterback.

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

He wasn’t that old when he came and he looked good under Shurmur.

I get it though. It is kind of chicken or the egg. We have drafted Teddy and Ponder with the GM in the high rounds and both were not that good.

But. We were getting better. Rick jumped the shark with Bradford and doubled down with Cousins. Had he kept drafting quarterbacks he seemed to be getting better, but once he spent a first rounder on Bradford he has not recovered. He did bring in Keenum, but he also went Cousins to follow.

Kubiak might be overrated at this point. He couldn’t develop Keenum, Cousins looks to be regressing, and his big Super Bow win was maybe more luck than anything. I really liked him, but man does Cousins look bad this year.

Spielman reached for Ponder and reluctantly took Teddy over Johnny Football. Imagine had we went that way.

I had high hopes for Rick, but ever since Bradford I’ve felt he should have been traded. I’d still like to know why Turner left that year.

We can’t develop a quarterback unless we draft one. Haskins is old news. We need our own guy.

Blah blah words, no one’s reading your manifestos. No, you don’t get the point. I said DEVELOPED. Keenum was good one year. That’s not an example of a QB that was DEVELOPED by this organization. How’s he been since that year? I assume really well since you believe the Vikings developed a great QB.

Blah, blah, blah...

Kubiak tried to develop Keenum in Houston, but failed miserably. He also has failed to do anything with Cousins.

We have not developed a quarterback. What is your point? We also have done a shitty job finding an already developed quarterback.

The point is it doesn’t matter who we have at QB because your game philosophy hero won’t allow any QB to succeed.

[cunningham]

Blah blah words, no one’s reading your manifestos. No, you don’t get the point. I said DEVELOPED. Keenum was good one year. That’s not an example of a QB that was DEVELOPED by this organization. How’s he been since that year? I assume really well since you believe the Vikings developed a great QB.

Blah, blah, blah...

Kubiak tried to develop Keenum in Houston, but failed miserably. He also has failed to do anything with Cousins.

We have not developed a quarterback. What is your point? We also have done a shitty job finding an already developed quarterback.

The point is it doesn’t matter who we have at QB because your game philosophy hero won’t allow any QB to succeed.

It is a decent philosophy to prioritize time of possession over the highlight reel deepball. Didn’t you learn anything from 1998? From all those Denny Green offenses?

[Bros Before Shiancoes]

Blah, blah, blah...

Kubiak tried to develop Keenum in Houston, but failed miserably. He also has failed to do anything with Cousins.

We have not developed a quarterback. What is your point? We also have done a shitty job finding an already developed quarterback.

The point is it doesn’t matter who we have at QB because your game philosophy hero won’t allow any QB to succeed.

It is a decent philosophy to prioritize time of possession over the highlight reel deepball. Didn’t you learn anything from 1998? From all those Denny Green offenses?

What was Denny Green’s record with the Vikings? I’ll hang up and listen.

[cunningham]

The point is it doesn’t matter who we have at QB because your game philosophy hero won’t allow any QB to succeed.

It is a decent philosophy to prioritize time of possession over the highlight reel deepball. Didn’t you learn anything from 1998? From all those Denny Green offenses?

What was Denny Green’s record with the Vikings? I’ll hang up and listen.

I think he and Zimstone have won the same amount of playoff games in their times here.