Re: **9th Annual NBA froob Draft** #62 Sid is otc
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:34 pm
Didn't expect all my targets to make it..
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he had a great comeback year. not nearly as irrelevant as people had been saying. super pick and damn you!mglviks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:22 pm Bulls select: LaMarcus Aldrich
Savy vet who can carry a team on his shoulders, yet unselfish spurs guy. While no one is Tim Duncan. LMA is about as close to that type as it comes. Zinger and LMA have shuffled back and forth from playing the 4 and 5. I believe their bbiq together will figure it all out on the court.
LMA was a first round lock in these drafts for years. Getting him at the top of r4, yes please.
LMA a midrange god and low post stud has stretched out to beyond the arch.
Smart on the boards and protecting the rim.
C/PF LaMarcus Aldrich
PF/C Kristaps Porzingas
SF Robert Covington
SG
PG Steph Curry
I think you're finally on the clock!Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:41 pm 3 guys I'm targeting with 6 picks to go. Hope to land one of them.
I would be happy to land one as I haven't had a pick since top of rd #2 and I don't have one after rd #4 until #6.
I think swapping order at #3 was too high. #4 seems to be the sweet spot imo.
You'll join the club in a dozen or so pickssomuchyummy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm idk man. seems like you guys with four picks done have really got some sweet lineups going.
Shoulder surgery, 35, meh. I can see why he is still available. Not saying it's time to take him behind the woodshed, but father time is undefeated. I think this is the year Pop lets Poetl eat!Hoop Dreams wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:28 pm Surprised LMA lasted this long. He's posting career highs in three pointers made and blocks per game. Very good pick.
i know. bah.bri wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pmYou'll join the club in a dozen or so pickssomuchyummy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm idk man. seems like you guys with four picks done have really got some sweet lineups going.
Him and 1 other I was debating over with LMASergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:04 pm Would have took this guy in rd #3. Fits perfectly for what I’m doing here.
The Dallas Mavericks select....
C Clint Capela
Young and has the traits I’m looking for to go with my squad. Rim protector, can run the floor, play in the PnR and has the ability to switch defensively on multiple positions on the floor.
Easily was my top target. Still two guys I really liked here with him but he fits my team perfect.mglviks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:05 pmHim and 1 other I was debating over with LMASergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:04 pm Would have took this guy in rd #3. Fits perfectly for what I’m doing here.
The Dallas Mavericks select....
C Clint Capela
Young and has the traits I’m looking for to go with my squad. Rim protector, can run the floor, play in the PnR and has the ability to switch defensively on multiple positions on the floor.
Otc bud
Jonathan Isaac was so singularly dominant, so breathtakingly restrictive as a primary and team defender that the league is left with no choice but to recognize his immense disruptive talents. This season Isaac was undoubtedly the league’s best defensive player.
Let’s start with the statistical case. Isaac racked up a combined number of blocks and steals unlike anyone else in the league. For the season he averaged 2.4 blocks (2nd league wide) and 1.6 steals (18th), good for a combined total of 4.0 per contest (1st). The best defensive counting statistics we have place him at the apex, a case bolstered by the eye test, which pegs him as a whirling dervish of stifling limbs and maniacal help rotations. It’s also worth remembering that he’s arriving at these numbers in less than 30 minutes of game time each night.
Dig deeper and the assessment stands up to further scrutiny. This season there were only four players who saw as much court time and were as likely to record a block. The same metric for steals places only thirteen names in front of him. Again, when these are combined, it is Isaac that tops the chart.
Elsewhere one might think that JI’s case starts to weaken somewhat. Advanced ratings like defensive rating, defensive win shares, and defensive box plus/minus all seem to favor some guy by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo. However, it is worth noting that he benefits by playing for the league’s best team defense in Milwaukee, and as such it is almost impossible to separate his case from that of his teammates. Just imagine what Isaac would be capable of defensively if he was blessed with the same level of defensively-talented peers as Giannis!
The Greek Freak’s defensive numbers are a case for his team’s brilliance at that end of the court. JI’s are a case for his own individual brilliance. Giannis and the Bucks might take home the championship, but the Defensive Player of the Year award belongs to Isaac.
PG: CP3Unmatched Defensive Ability
We already reviewed how his physical attributes translate perfectly on the court, but his ability to match those attributes with elite defensive ability is insane.
In Isaac’s sophomore season, he finished the year with a 1.0 defensive box +/- (DBPM). Defensive box +/- looks at how many more points a team received, due to someone’s contributions on the defensive end. 1.0 may seem a bit low, but let’s look at who he’s surrounded by. Chris Paul (1.1), Jimmy Butler (0.9), Joel Embiid (0.9), and Kawhi Leonard (1.1), all had very similar numbers at the end of the year.
This past season, Isaac made a huge jump on the defensive end, ending his season with a 2.9 DBPM. Now, many will claim his shortened season is the reason behind such a high number. However, the cut off for DBPM looks to be around 40 games at the season cut off. So theoretically, Isaac missed the cut off by just 8-10 games, which wouldn’t drastically change his numbers. So let’s drop Isaac’s DBPM to 2.5 as a means for making up those games. Isaac would slot in somewhere around the eight/nine spot for DBPM rankings this season. Ahead of Draymond Green, Paul George, and Joel Embiid who all hadn’t played significantly more games than Isaac.
He has already started to mold into one of the game’s better defenders, just a couple years into his career. Not to mention, Isaac averaged 2.4 blocks per game, an astounding number for any NBA player.
Isaac certainly has some room to grow on the defensive end, but nearly every single defensive metric and meaningful stat have seen exponential growth since his rookie season. He’s now starting to polish those defensive skills even more, which should be a scary sight for every single player in the league.
Draft open from 8am to 10pm. So while sleeping doesnt count against.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:53 am not trying to rush abe here, honest. after all, it's not even 7 am. just a clarification for my own understanding. what's the "12 hour window" and what's "2 hours on the clock" mean? capela was picked a little after 6 pm last night - so about 4 hours have passed. does abe still have 8 hours to make the pick or is he 2 hours overdue?
God DAMN IT Style!!!!Style wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:25 am With the 66th pick, the Boston Celtics select:
Jonathan Isaac
Not a traditional pick in terms of lineup construction, yet this defensive stud perfectly fits with my previously drafted players. Isaac is underrated as it is, yet next year with another year of exposure, he will likely spring into DPOY conversations.
Jonathan Isaac was so singularly dominant, so breathtakingly restrictive as a primary and team defender that the league is left with no choice but to recognize his immense disruptive talents. This season Isaac was undoubtedly the league’s best defensive player.
Let’s start with the statistical case. Isaac racked up a combined number of blocks and steals unlike anyone else in the league. For the season he averaged 2.4 blocks (2nd league wide) and 1.6 steals (18th), good for a combined total of 4.0 per contest (1st). The best defensive counting statistics we have place him at the apex, a case bolstered by the eye test, which pegs him as a whirling dervish of stifling limbs and maniacal help rotations. It’s also worth remembering that he’s arriving at these numbers in less than 30 minutes of game time each night.
Dig deeper and the assessment stands up to further scrutiny. This season there were only four players who saw as much court time and were as likely to record a block. The same metric for steals places only thirteen names in front of him. Again, when these are combined, it is Isaac that tops the chart.
Elsewhere one might think that JI’s case starts to weaken somewhat. Advanced ratings like defensive rating, defensive win shares, and defensive box plus/minus all seem to favor some guy by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo. However, it is worth noting that he benefits by playing for the league’s best team defense in Milwaukee, and as such it is almost impossible to separate his case from that of his teammates. Just imagine what Isaac would be capable of defensively if he was blessed with the same level of defensively-talented peers as Giannis!
The Greek Freak’s defensive numbers are a case for his team’s brilliance at that end of the court. JI’s are a case for his own individual brilliance. Giannis and the Bucks might take home the championship, but the Defensive Player of the Year award belongs to Isaac.PG: CP3Unmatched Defensive Ability
We already reviewed how his physical attributes translate perfectly on the court, but his ability to match those attributes with elite defensive ability is insane.
In Isaac’s sophomore season, he finished the year with a 1.0 defensive box +/- (DBPM). Defensive box +/- looks at how many more points a team received, due to someone’s contributions on the defensive end. 1.0 may seem a bit low, but let’s look at who he’s surrounded by. Chris Paul (1.1), Jimmy Butler (0.9), Joel Embiid (0.9), and Kawhi Leonard (1.1), all had very similar numbers at the end of the year.
This past season, Isaac made a huge jump on the defensive end, ending his season with a 2.9 DBPM. Now, many will claim his shortened season is the reason behind such a high number. However, the cut off for DBPM looks to be around 40 games at the season cut off. So theoretically, Isaac missed the cut off by just 8-10 games, which wouldn’t drastically change his numbers. So let’s drop Isaac’s DBPM to 2.5 as a means for making up those games. Isaac would slot in somewhere around the eight/nine spot for DBPM rankings this season. Ahead of Draymond Green, Paul George, and Joel Embiid who all hadn’t played significantly more games than Isaac.
He has already started to mold into one of the game’s better defenders, just a couple years into his career. Not to mention, Isaac averaged 2.4 blocks per game, an astounding number for any NBA player.
Isaac certainly has some room to grow on the defensive end, but nearly every single defensive metric and meaningful stat have seen exponential growth since his rookie season. He’s now starting to polish those defensive skills even more, which should be a scary sight for every single player in the league.
W: Isaac
W: Durant
W: Gallinari
Table setter: Check
Defensive stopper: Check
Superstar: Check
Floor spacer/3pt: Check
Okayyyyyyyyyy!
nice job.Style wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:25 am With the 66th pick, the Boston Celtics select:
Jonathan Isaac
Not a traditional pick in terms of lineup construction, yet this defensive stud perfectly fits with my previously drafted players. Isaac is underrated as it is, yet next year with another year of exposure, he will likely spring into DPOY conversations.
Jonathan Isaac was so singularly dominant, so breathtakingly restrictive as a primary and team defender that the league is left with no choice but to recognize his immense disruptive talents. This season Isaac was undoubtedly the league’s best defensive player.
Let’s start with the statistical case. Isaac racked up a combined number of blocks and steals unlike anyone else in the league. For the season he averaged 2.4 blocks (2nd league wide) and 1.6 steals (18th), good for a combined total of 4.0 per contest (1st). The best defensive counting statistics we have place him at the apex, a case bolstered by the eye test, which pegs him as a whirling dervish of stifling limbs and maniacal help rotations. It’s also worth remembering that he’s arriving at these numbers in less than 30 minutes of game time each night.
Dig deeper and the assessment stands up to further scrutiny. This season there were only four players who saw as much court time and were as likely to record a block. The same metric for steals places only thirteen names in front of him. Again, when these are combined, it is Isaac that tops the chart.
Elsewhere one might think that JI’s case starts to weaken somewhat. Advanced ratings like defensive rating, defensive win shares, and defensive box plus/minus all seem to favor some guy by the name of Giannis Antetokounmpo. However, it is worth noting that he benefits by playing for the league’s best team defense in Milwaukee, and as such it is almost impossible to separate his case from that of his teammates. Just imagine what Isaac would be capable of defensively if he was blessed with the same level of defensively-talented peers as Giannis!
The Greek Freak’s defensive numbers are a case for his team’s brilliance at that end of the court. JI’s are a case for his own individual brilliance. Giannis and the Bucks might take home the championship, but the Defensive Player of the Year award belongs to Isaac.PG: CP3Unmatched Defensive Ability
We already reviewed how his physical attributes translate perfectly on the court, but his ability to match those attributes with elite defensive ability is insane.
In Isaac’s sophomore season, he finished the year with a 1.0 defensive box +/- (DBPM). Defensive box +/- looks at how many more points a team received, due to someone’s contributions on the defensive end. 1.0 may seem a bit low, but let’s look at who he’s surrounded by. Chris Paul (1.1), Jimmy Butler (0.9), Joel Embiid (0.9), and Kawhi Leonard (1.1), all had very similar numbers at the end of the year.
This past season, Isaac made a huge jump on the defensive end, ending his season with a 2.9 DBPM. Now, many will claim his shortened season is the reason behind such a high number. However, the cut off for DBPM looks to be around 40 games at the season cut off. So theoretically, Isaac missed the cut off by just 8-10 games, which wouldn’t drastically change his numbers. So let’s drop Isaac’s DBPM to 2.5 as a means for making up those games. Isaac would slot in somewhere around the eight/nine spot for DBPM rankings this season. Ahead of Draymond Green, Paul George, and Joel Embiid who all hadn’t played significantly more games than Isaac.
He has already started to mold into one of the game’s better defenders, just a couple years into his career. Not to mention, Isaac averaged 2.4 blocks per game, an astounding number for any NBA player.
Isaac certainly has some room to grow on the defensive end, but nearly every single defensive metric and meaningful stat have seen exponential growth since his rookie season. He’s now starting to polish those defensive skills even more, which should be a scary sight for every single player in the league.
W: Isaac
W: Durant
W: Gallinari
Table setter: Check
Defensive stopper: Check
Superstar: Check
Floor spacer/3pt: Check
Okayyyyyyyyyy!
Agree. They’ve got a bit of a front court jam with Isaac, Vucevic, Gordon, and Bamba. I’d like to see Gersson get in on some of that. Ideally Isaac, but Bamba would be an intriguing flier next to KAT as well.bombers3shooter wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:09 am Issac and Doncic are my two young guys on other teams that I really like to watch. I think Issac takes another step this year. Pretty cool team Style two 7 footers that can play wing and create their own shot off the dribble. Issac just started to scratch the surface last year before the injury. If he takes another step he is scary. Already pretty much a dude that can lock down 1-5. Orlando should build around him and let him eat on offense!
Oh yeah, he can also shoot (38% from three).If you could pick any player in the NBA to make a stop in isolation, who would it be? If you ask ESPN's Tim Bontemps and Nate Duncan of the Dunc'd On Podcast, the answer is Toronto's OG Anunoby.