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Is the Bullpen suddenly looking a-ight?

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Is the Bullpen suddenly looking a-ight?

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Rogers
Duffy
Clippard
Romo
May
Littell

Should they give Littell another shot at the rotation? The kid is only 24 years old, had a 3.57 era at AAA two years ago and now has a nice chunk of big league experience. Why isn't he in the running for the #5 starter? You can always find another Ryne Harper can't you?
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Ask Not wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:42 pm Rogers
Duffy
Clippard
Romo
May
Littell

Should they give Littell another shot at the rotation? The kid is only 24 years old, had a 3.57 era at AAA two years ago and now has a nice chunk of big league experience. Why isn't he in the running for the #5 starter? You can always find another Ryne Harper can't you?
Should be better than aight. No one, me included, can say they didnt go into the season with a quality bullpen staff. Even if it doesn't work out, it's a great attempt.
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Clippard is a guy the Twins desperately needed. Keep building the bullpen if they’re not going to get a starter. Kinda frustrating but what do you do?
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I am fine with the way it is constructed now -- Romo and Clippard were needed of course. Duffey was really good down the stretch but I am glad they didn't just assume he's the set up guy now.
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HeHateMe wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:14 am I am fine with the way it is constructed now -- Romo and Clippard were needed of course. Duffey was really good down the stretch but I am glad they didn't just assume he's the set up guy now.
In today's game, you can't just have your 7th, 8th, and 9th inning guys anymore. You need 5 or 6 guys you can trust in those roles. The Twins have as deep a pen as any team in baseball.
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They are going to need them with the starters they have. Maybe this is the formula? Just hope to get through 4 or 5 with the starters.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:35 pm They are going to need them with the starters they have. Maybe this is the formula? Just hope to get through 4 or 5 with the starters.
The pen is going to be dead by August.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:35 pm They are going to need them with the starters they have. Maybe this is the formula? Just hope to get through 4 or 5 with the starters.
This appears to be the way MLB is trending so maybe we'll be ok?!
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Hornets wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:31 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:35 pm They are going to need them with the starters they have. Maybe this is the formula? Just hope to get through 4 or 5 with the starters.
This appears to be the way MLB is trending so maybe we'll be ok?!
This isn't a good game plan, it would be a last resort because of our weakness at starting pitching. You would burn out a good but not elite bullpen as well. You need above average starting pitching and bullpen to ever have any chance in October, even if you have the best offense ever.....
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It is serviceable just a shame we do not have a number 1 or 2 starter in the rotation. Lololololololololo

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The Twins just picked up another 5 and fly guy in Meada.
If the bullpen needs to pitch 4 innings every night (648 innings), they'd need 7 guys to pitch 92 innings out of the pen.

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Ask Not wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:19 am The Twins just picked up another 5 and fly guy in Meada.
If the bullpen needs to pitch 4 innings every night (648 innings), they'd need 7 guys to pitch 92 innings out of the pen.

Enjoy the AAA shuttle.
Not sure I agree with your take.
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The Replacements wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:13 am
Ask Not wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:19 am The Twins just picked up another 5 and fly guy in Meada.
If the bullpen needs to pitch 4 innings every night (648 innings), they'd need 7 guys to pitch 92 innings out of the pen.

Enjoy the AAA shuttle.
Not sure I agree with your take.
The numbers are a little heavy, but a good bullpen is different than an overworked or overexposed good bullpen.
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Which team has the best bullpen in each division?

AL Central: Twins

The Twins spent much of the first half in 2019 searching for consistency in their bullpen outside closer Taylor Rogers, but by the end of the regular season, several homegrown pitchers took a collective leap forward to help form one of the most effective relief corps in baseball. Rogers (2.61 ERA, 32.4 K%) was elite all season long, but Trevor May (2.94 ERA) ramped his fastball up to 99 mph and Tyler Duffey (2.50 ERA, 34.5 K%) completed a transformation from inconsistent depth starter to one of the most dominant relievers in baseball. Together, they formed one of the game's most reliable late-inning groups, especially with help from midseason acquisition Sergio Romo, as well as surprising contributions from rookies Zack Littell (2.68 ERA) and Cody Stashak (3.24 ERA). They're all back in '20, with veteran Tyler Clippard also in the mix to pitch in with his 13 seasons of Major League experience.

https://www.mlb.com/news/team-with-best ... b-division
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feekdogg wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:47 am Which team has the best bullpen in each division?

AL Central: Twins

The Twins spent much of the first half in 2019 searching for consistency in their bullpen outside closer Taylor Rogers, but by the end of the regular season, several homegrown pitchers took a collective leap forward to help form one of the most effective relief corps in baseball. Rogers (2.61 ERA, 32.4 K%) was elite all season long, but Trevor May (2.94 ERA) ramped his fastball up to 99 mph and Tyler Duffey (2.50 ERA, 34.5 K%) completed a transformation from inconsistent depth starter to one of the most dominant relievers in baseball. Together, they formed one of the game's most reliable late-inning groups, especially with help from midseason acquisition Sergio Romo, as well as surprising contributions from rookies Zack Littell (2.68 ERA) and Cody Stashak (3.24 ERA). They're all back in '20, with veteran Tyler Clippard also in the mix to pitch in with his 13 seasons of Major League experience.

https://www.mlb.com/news/team-with-best ... b-division
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feekdogg wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:47 am Which team has the best bullpen in each division?

AL Central: Twins

The Twins spent much of the first half in 2019 searching for consistency in their bullpen outside closer Taylor Rogers, but by the end of the regular season, several homegrown pitchers took a collective leap forward to help form one of the most effective relief corps in baseball. Rogers (2.61 ERA, 32.4 K%) was elite all season long, but Trevor May (2.94 ERA) ramped his fastball up to 99 mph and Tyler Duffey (2.50 ERA, 34.5 K%) completed a transformation from inconsistent depth starter to one of the most dominant relievers in baseball. Together, they formed one of the game's most reliable late-inning groups, especially with help from midseason acquisition Sergio Romo, as well as surprising contributions from rookies Zack Littell (2.68 ERA) and Cody Stashak (3.24 ERA). They're all back in '20, with veteran Tyler Clippard also in the mix to pitch in with his 13 seasons of Major League experience.

https://www.mlb.com/news/team-with-best ... b-division
Trevor May never ramped his fastball up to 99 mph. :lol: He did increase it from 94-95 mph in 2017 to 96 mph in 2018.
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Whatever happened to Addison Reed last season?
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duffey was lights out the second half of the season-especially if he began the inning. the best guy in the BP.
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weimy froob wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:06 am duffey was lights out the second half of the season-especially if he began the inning. the best guy in the BP.
yeah I hated that we brought him in mid inning in the playoffs. that wasn't his game. he was awesome starting innings, but coming in with RISP never worked well
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boxter432 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:06 am duffey was lights out the second half of the season-especially if he began the inning. the best guy in the BP.
yeah I hated that we brought him in mid inning in the playoffs. that wasn't his game. he was awesome starting innings, but coming in with RISP never worked well
yeah i put that on rocco in the playoff thread. he should have known that if we did.
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weimy froob wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:51 am
boxter432 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:47 am
weimy froob wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:06 am duffey was lights out the second half of the season-especially if he began the inning. the best guy in the BP.
yeah I hated that we brought him in mid inning in the playoffs. that wasn't his game. he was awesome starting innings, but coming in with RISP never worked well
yeah i put that on rocco in the playoff thread. he should have known that if we did.
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fast forward to 2023

Bullpen will make or break Twins; so far, it's mostly bending

The Twins went to their bullpen to start the sixth inning Wednesday, and Brock Stewart's first pitch ended up banging off the outfield wall for a double.

Next batter: bunt single.

Next batter: walk.

Bases loaded, no outs, a five-run lead suddenly not so comfortable.

Gulp. Not again.

Eh, crisis averted this time.

Stewart and Jovani Moran pitched out of the mess and Jhoan Duran put a bow on an encouraging outing for the bullpen by throwing the fastest pitch of his young career — just under 105 mph — in a 7-1 win over the San Francisco Giants at Target Field.

One solid outing doesn't remove concerns about the bullpen, but the Twins badly needed something positive after watching their bullpen sabotage too many games in posting 13 losses, second most in major league baseball.

Four relievers combined to throw four scoreless innings Wednesday, with nine strikeouts. The Giants' final nine outs all came on whiffs.

The 'pen's work didn't require much high-leverage, high-stress fortitude, but that group finished the game as a positive, not a negative. So that's progress.

Few things in baseball are more deflating than a bullpen that squanders leads. The Twins rank 11th in the majors in bullpen ERA with the fifth-lowest opponent batting average. But it's the situational hiccups, the 13 losses, the untimely walks that have been killer.

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could they turn maeda into a high leverage late inning reliever?

Maeda effective in start
Kenta Maeda struck out four of the seven batters he faced Tuesday over two hitless innings, his first rehab-assignment start for Class AAA St. Paul as he returns from a strained right triceps he suffered in April.

Maeda also walked one batter and recorded two fly outs in the 29-pitch performance in Buffalo, N.Y. His fastball topped out at 91 mph.

Caleb Thielbar, on his own rehab assignment from a right oblique strain, relieved Maeda and needed only eight pitches in his inning of work, allowing a single and striking out one.

Thielbar will pitch again for the Saints on Thursday, while Maeda will start again in Buffalo on Sunday. Both are eligible to come off the injured list when the Twins determine they are ready.
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That's the best thing I've heard ^^^ all morning Weimy.
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We're 1 game over .500 and 1.5 games ahead of the next team in the worst division in the league. If we can't stomp the throats out of this division it means absolutely nothing. Losing in the first playoff series means this is a loser team that had a loser season owned by losers with loser mentality.
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rocco said that they still want maeda to be a starter. who are they going to take out of the rotation?
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outside of that ortega hiccup they've been outstanding on this road trip. rocco's managed their workload nicely as well.
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