Will Ryan Saunders Be Head Coach Next Season?

[UnFadeable21]

Modern offense= Whole team stand around 3 point line and jack a 3.

I can't even tell the wings from the bigs anymore.

#Generic

Agreed, it’s terrible. I actually preferred Ryan’s offense last season more when we actually force fed Towns in the post.

[Thrillkill]

Modern offense= Whole team stand around 3 point line and jack a 3.

I can't even tell the wings from the bigs anymore.

#Generic

Agreed, it’s terrible. I actually preferred Ryan’s offense last season more when we actually force fed Towns in the post.

Because it was actually his offense and not his computer geek boss's NBA2K plan.

Oh, and Sergeant Rubetube can't tell the bigs from the wings? Maybe because 90% of our "bigs" are actually wings?

[somuchyummy]

yep, i just about coughed up a gall stone last night when i saw our starters were dieng-okogie-graham-wiggins-teague. so..........josh okogie was the 4? or graham? the four. really.

[UnFadeable21]

yep, i just about coughed up a gall stone last night when i saw our starters were dieng-okogie-graham-wiggins-teague. so..........josh okogie was the 4? or graham? the four. really.

Ryan doesn’t know what the hell he is doing.

[UnFadeable21]

Losing streak is about to hit 10 tonight, Ryan fan boys still out there?

[somuchyummy]

back to the thread title - i think he's here thru next year at least. it's a cheap contract but glen is cheaper. he'll ride it out.

[RubeTube]

back to the thread title - i think he's here thru next year at least. it's a cheap contract but glen is cheaper. he'll ride it out.

Agreed.

[t_wrex]

Popovic was 17-47 his first year with a way better team.

[Bob Wiley]

yep, i just about coughed up a gall stone last night when i saw our starters were dieng-okogie-graham-wiggins-teague. so..........josh okogie was the 4? or graham? the four. really.

Ryan doesn’t know what the hell he is doing.

How can he not? I’m not saying he’s the right coach for this team, but he’s been on the bench as an assistant coach for many years, he played college basketball, he grew up with Flip.

Basically everybody agree there is a plan to learn to play a certain style, regardless of the players. He’s probably doing the best he can within the confines of the system.

[UnFadeable21]

10 straight losses for Ryan Saunders

[winforlose]

10 straight losses for Ryan Saunders

True, but tonight Ryan was better (not good, but not his usual awful.) No Graham, hit the hot hand, guys were motivated, guys hit free throws. Not playing bell was bad. Some poor rotation choices, but overall better than usual.

[UnFadeable21]

10 straight losses for Ryan Saunders

True, but tonight Ryan was better (not good, but not his usual awful.) No Graham, hit the hot hand, guys were motivated, guys hit free throws. Not playing bell was bad. Some poor rotation choices, but overall better than usual.

Better than his usual clueless self but the Memphis loss, Pelicans loss, they are a part of this 10 game losing streak. Sam Mitchell or Tom Thibodeau never lost 10 games in a row for the Wolves.

[winforlose]

10 straight losses for Ryan Saunders

True, but tonight Ryan was better (not good, but not his usual awful.) No Graham, hit the hot hand, guys were motivated, guys hit free throws. Not playing bell was bad. Some poor rotation choices, but overall better than usual.

Better than his usual clueless self but the Memphis loss, Pelicans loss, they are a part of this 10 game losing streak. Sam Mitchell or Tom Thibodeau never lost 10 games in a row for the Wolves.

Not arguing that. You know me well enough by now to know I want a real head coach, not a legacy kid with connections to the owner. That said, 3 games without KAT is tough. Whiteside’s 22 rebounds killed us tonight. This wasn’t a coaching loss, this was a failure of specific players to step up. Roco single handedly took all our momentum away in the 4th. Okogie was awful tonight. Ryan is a big problem, but it’s unlikely vanterpool or some other intern coach wins this specific game.

[H8ter]

I can say that there were at least three lost that you can blame on Saunders. Two Sunday matinee and the Pelicans game. The team did look prepared for any of those games. I always said he is a sacrificial lamb and I still stand by it. He’ll be fired around the All Star break.

[somuchyummy]

True, but tonight Ryan was better (not good, but not his usual awful.) No Graham, hit the hot hand, guys were motivated, guys hit free throws. Not playing bell was bad. Some poor rotation choices, but overall better than usual.

Better than his usual clueless self but the Memphis loss, Pelicans loss, they are a part of this 10 game losing streak. Sam Mitchell or Tom Thibodeau never lost 10 games in a row for the Wolves.

Not arguing that. You know me well enough by now to know I want a real head coach, not a legacy kid with connections to the owner. That said, 3 games without KAT is tough. Whiteside’s 22 rebounds killed us tonight. This wasn’t a coaching loss, this was a failure of specific players to step up. Roco single handedly took all our momentum away in the 4th. Okogie was awful tonight. Ryan is a big problem, but it’s unlikely vanterpool or some other intern coach wins this specific game.

ryan also didn't put one of our best rebounders - bell - into the game at all. again, bell's probably not going to win that game - but whiteside vacuums up every rebound and ryan does nothing to stop the bleeding, even when he's got a decent bandaid on the bench.

[winforlose]

Better than his usual clueless self but the Memphis loss, Pelicans loss, they are a part of this 10 game losing streak. Sam Mitchell or Tom Thibodeau never lost 10 games in a row for the Wolves.

Not arguing that. You know me well enough by now to know I want a real head coach, not a legacy kid with connections to the owner. That said, 3 games without KAT is tough. Whiteside’s 22 rebounds killed us tonight. This wasn’t a coaching loss, this was a failure of specific players to step up. Roco single handedly took all our momentum away in the 4th. Okogie was awful tonight. Ryan is a big problem, but it’s unlikely vanterpool or some other intern coach wins this specific game.

ryan also didn't put one of our best rebounders - bell - into the game at all. again, bell's probably not going to win that game - but whiteside vacuums up every rebound and ryan does nothing to stop the bleeding, even when he's got a decent bandaid on the bench.

Bell for Roco would have been a good call when Roco was melting down. I am just not sure that would have made enough difference. I look at this game as a tough loss but a fair loss without your best player. Officiating was bad for both sides, coaching was adequate for both, they just had the dominant inside man while ours was hurt.

[mlhouse]

1. They will give him at least half way into next year before they even consider firing him.

2. To run an offense you have to have shooters, not just take 3 point shots. That is the problem with the Wolves offense. They need to find some shooters to pair with Towns and Wiggins.

While I think their upside is limited (6-9th type seeds) the Wolves need to commit to building around Towns and Wiggins. I know many will disagree with this, but they never have really tried to build around them. Wiggins came in in Saunders last season. Towns and Wiggins first year together was under Mitchell. Then they brought in Thibodeau who never wanted to build around Towns and WIggins. He wanted to build around JImmy Butler and brought in veteran free agents like Jeff Teague, Taj Gibson, and Jamal Crawford. Maybe that was the right plan if Butler could have been convinced to stay, but he didn't.

The biggest need is to find a 3rd offensive option that can fit in with Wiggins and Towns, and pursuing a trade deadline deal to bring in Russell. Then they need to find some top level perimeter shooters even if they are one dimensional players.

[flexbuffchest]

Papa Glen isn't going to be paying 2 ex coaches.

I doubt buying out Saunders will cost much (what was his contact?) But Glen ain't shelling out the cash to pay 2 people not to coach + putting up the money to hire anyone halfway proven

[j2j]

Think Glen is overly excited about firing one of the limited ownership partners? Ryan gets through next year to show progress.

[UnFadeable21]

Papa Glen isn't going to be paying 2 ex coaches.

I doubt buying out Saunders will cost much (what was his contact?) But Glen ain't shelling out the cash to pay 2 people not to coach + putting up the money to hire anyone halfway proven

3 years 900k per

Easy buyout

[RubeTube]

Papa Glen isn't going to be paying 2 ex coaches.

I doubt buying out Saunders will cost much (what was his contact?) But Glen ain't shelling out the cash to pay 2 people not to coach + putting up the money to hire anyone halfway proven

3 years 900k per

Easy buyout

He would be paying 3 coaches. Not going to happened.

[DC4MVP]

Sympathy hire.

Time to bring in a real coach.

[YBBR]

There are some lumps with Ryan, but he doesnt control the play on the floor. Honestly, some guys.need to start making some shots. That's not his job.

[UnFadeable21]

There are some lumps with Ryan, but he doesnt control the play on the floor. Honestly, some guys.need to start making some shots. That's not his job.

Ryan’s job is to adjust and make it easier on his players to execute. Sticking to the system over and over when the team is dead last in every category shows inability to coach and adjust.

[UnFadeable21]

Wolves haven’t lost 10 games in a row since flip tanked the last 20 games of the season for Towns.

[Hornets]

Young Ryan obviously overmatched being an NBA coach but it was a feel good story when they hired him full time. The players loved it because they knew they could get away with whatever they wanted to (see Covington in particular) and this worked for a bit. Now it's clear they need a new direction and wonder what Glen will F up this time....

Bring McHale back?!

[HeHateMe]

The organization is suffering now because of what Thibs did. At one point in time you could have gotten three proven all stars for KAT, Wiggins and LaVine. He gave up one (and other stuff) to get one but it was a combination that was doomed. The best coaching hire would have been Monty Williams but would the Wolves have actually got that done? of course not.

[UnFadeable21]

Ryan turned Towns from a rebound scoring machine to trying to dribble and shake people on the 3pt line. It’s a joke.

His game should be from inside out, not out then inside.

[j2j]

Towns's scoring is up and he's more efficient than he's ever been and his rebounding is in line with his career averages, with an increase in assists, ws/48, BPM, FTAs, FTr, and a greater percentage of his shots are coming within 3ft this year than last year.

He's also 4th in the NBA in number of postups per game behind Embiid, Davis, and Aldridge.

For some reason the offense has been extremely stagnant the last 15 or so games when it started off with really good movement. It's turned into a bunch of iso BS. Not sure if that's Ryan made an adjustment, unlikely, or the players not doing what they're supposed to be doing and Ryan not holding them accountable, more likely. Layman going down seems to be the only thing that lines up, but he's not big enough to throw the whole team into a tailspin.

Team needs to get back to motion and away from this 5 games of 1v1 iso trash.

[j2j]

The organization is suffering now because of what Thibs did. At one point in time you could have gotten three proven all stars for KAT, Wiggins and LaVine. He gave up one (and other stuff) to get one but it was a combination that was doomed. The best coaching hire would have been Monty Williams but would the Wolves have actually got that done? of course not.

Agreed, but Monty seemed hellbent on getting to Phoenix. He could have had the Laker job, but he passed on it for the Suns. Not sure what the connection is.