A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

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A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by RubeTube » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:42 pm

This is a little segment the "Maniacs" have asked to be brought back. In typical RT Sports fashion, we brought it back for you, the people!


I'm here to talk about the late 2000's and Brad Childress QB room.

I recently reviewed the 2008 season in much of it's entirety. As the "Fly on wall" during this session, I came to some conclusions watching the league that was a decade younger than that of today.

First I'm going to start with Tarvaris Jackson. I can see what Brad Childress saw in this kid. On a pure measurables and skill set level, this kid had it going on.

Week 1 in GB against Aaron Rodgers in what was the debut of the future HOFer's career, TJack shined. His movements were so "Fluid". He controlled the pocket like a poors mans Mike Vick. Electric was a understatement here. Jackson also has what we call in the business "A hand cannon". There wasn't a throw this Jackson couldn't make and with just the flick of a wrist, he could drop a 60 yarder on you.

Jackson struggled with his accuracy though and struggled to read a NFL defense. It was ultimately his demise but when watching him, it's hard not to fall in love with his athleticism.


The next guy I took a look at was Sage Rosenthal. I took a look at every preseason snap he took in 2010. This guy was absolutely on fire! "Zipping pebbles" is how I described his play that year. Another colleague said it almost looked as effortless as "Skipping Rocks".

I firmly believe if we don't call Favre back in 2010, Sage brings us a division title and to the playoffs. It also would have blocked Green Bay from making the playoffs that year and ultimately winning the Super Bowl. Obviously, we had to give Favre another try though.


I really enjoyed reviewing these fun times and writing about it for you, the people.

This has been a View From The Cheap Seats.
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Re: A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by cunningham » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:26 pm

What about Gus?

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Re: A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by RubeTube » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:29 pm

cunningham wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:26 pm
What about Gus?
He was a busta like Keenum. Had a horse shoe stuck in his ass for half a season in what was a pitiful career.

Jackson was the right play in the playoffs.
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Post by hategreenticemase » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:17 pm

The lengths this moron will go to in order to hilariously draw any sort of attention to himself is fucking priceless. :lol:

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Post by cunningham » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 am

Sergeant Rubetube wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:29 pm
cunningham wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:26 pm
What about Gus?
He was a busta like Keenum. Had a horse shoe stuck in his ass for half a season in what was a pitiful career.

Jackson was the right play in the playoffs.
Even though he got his ass kicked?

Our disagreement on quarterbacks goes back decades I guess. TJoke was all arm, but Gus got us to the playoffs that year. He got hurt, Jackson comes in and blows away the Cards because they had no film in him. Gus should have started.

This is why you suck at evaluating quarterbacks and it goes deep. I bet JoeTrollSpammer would agree with you just like DHTroll for years spent pushing TJoke to the point where I felt bad for Jackson. I suppose the ultimate irony is that Jackson has a Super Bowl ring.

Here is the flaw though and what you also miss about your beloved Kirk. Jackson and Cousins had amazing arms, Cousins has much better accuracy, but both struggled to get first downs. Both folded in big games. Having more time to watch Jackson one major issue was that he could be game-planned for and shut down.

My fear is that is what is happening with Cousins. Same thing with Bradford.

In the NFL for a quarterback to succeed you have to change up your patterns and tendencies. That is what makes the position so unbelievably difficult. Eagles called out Bradford and said when he was pressured he threw outside. So the has corners drop to the edges. Chicago did the same thing. That is why when Bradford came in against the Bears for Keenum he was shut down. The injury was the excuse. Same with TJoke, the injury was an excuse to get him off the field.

Now if Cousins struggles and goes down with injury....

Before you get your panties all bunched up I want to say that Cousins is significantly more experienced and a better quarterback than Bradford, Jackson, or Gus.

Very interesting you compare Gus and Keenum because I liked those two when they got the keys to the offense. The main reason being that the got first downs. What you have got to understand is that a rocket arm is great for highlights, but it might not win you games. The most important skill is to get first downs. Especially when they are most needed. You can feel it as a fan. When we get to third down and Teddy, Case, Favre, or Gus were in there you had hope they would move around and get it. Those guys would stand in the pocket and throw at that last moment. That split second when they will be hit, but their guy flashes open.

I haven’t seen that from Cousins and it is why all last season when it became third down I watched my hope disappear.

Can that be coached? Or does a quarterback just have that internal clock and 6th sense about pressure.

Gus should have started that playoff game because he was why we were there. Hell, Ponder impressed me the year helped us make the playoffs, but he got hurt in that game and Webb was crap the next week. Which is why when people focus solely on AP for that era they are morons. If AP was the big reason we always won them why did we suck so bad when Webb came in?

I hate rehashing this piss poor period, but I know you love to troll this shit so I thought I would give you something to chew on. You are so off of quarterbacks it is no wonder you think after last season we are about to win the Super Bowl.

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Re: A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by Joe Bag 'O Donuts » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:30 am

cunningham wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 am
Sergeant Rubetube wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:29 pm
cunningham wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:26 pm
What about Gus?
He was a busta like Keenum. Had a horse shoe stuck in his ass for half a season in what was a pitiful career.

Jackson was the right play in the playoffs.
Even though he got his ass kicked?

Our disagreement on quarterbacks goes back decades I guess. TJoke was all arm, but Gus got us to the playoffs that year. He got hurt, Jackson comes in and blows away the Cards because they had no film in him. Gus should have started.

This is why you suck at evaluating quarterbacks and it goes deep. I bet JoeTrollSpammer would agree with you just like DHTroll for years spent pushing TJoke to the point where I felt bad for Jackson. I suppose the ultimate irony is that Jackson has a Super Bowl ring.

Here is the flaw though and what you also miss about your beloved Kirk. Jackson and Cousins had amazing arms, Cousins has much better accuracy, but both struggled to get first downs. Both folded in big games. Having more time to watch Jackson one major issue was that he could be game-planned for and shut down.

My fear is that is what is happening with Cousins. Same thing with Bradford.

In the NFL for a quarterback to succeed you have to change up your patterns and tendencies. That is what makes the position so unbelievably difficult. Eagles called out Bradford and said when he was pressured he threw outside. So the has corners drop to the edges. Chicago did the same thing. That is why when Bradford came in against the Bears for Keenum he was shut down. The injury was the excuse. Same with TJoke, the injury was an excuse to get him off the field.

Now if Cousins struggles and goes down with injury....

Before you get your panties all bunched up I want to say that Cousins is significantly more experienced and a better quarterback than Bradford, Jackson, or Gus.

Very interesting you compare Gus and Keenum because I liked those two when they got the keys to the offense. The main reason being that the got first downs. What you have got to understand is that a rocket arm is great for highlights, but it might not win you games. The most important skill is to get first downs. Especially when they are most needed. You can feel it as a fan. When we get to third down and Teddy, Case, Favre, or Gus were in there you had hope they would move around and get it. Those guys would stand in the pocket and throw at that last moment. That split second when they will be hit, but their guy flashes open.

I haven’t seen that from Cousins and it is why all last season when it became third down I watched my hope disappear.

Can that be coached? Or does a quarterback just have that internal clock and 6th sense about pressure.

Gus should have started that playoff game because he was why we were there. Hell, Ponder impressed me the year helped us make the playoffs, but he got hurt in that game and Webb was crap the next week. Which is why when people focus solely on AP for that era they are morons. If AP was the big reason we always won them why did we suck so bad when Webb came in?

I hate rehashing this piss poor period, but I know you love to troll this shit so I thought I would give you something to chew on. You are so off of quarterbacks it is no wonder you think after last season we are about to win the Super Bowl.
You get that Tube? The guy that was impressed by Ponder is calling your QB take out.

:lol:

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Post by vikesbumeout » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:41 am

I (barely) got as far as Travius....
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Post by Joe Bag 'O Donuts » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:56 am

vikesbumeout wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:41 am
I (barely) got as far as Travius....
:lol:

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Post by vikesbumeout » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:59 am

Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:56 am
vikesbumeout wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:41 am
I (barely) got as far as Travius....
:lol:
I see I misspelled his name. I should have gone with “Tragic-ious”.
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Re: A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by RubeTube » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:24 pm

Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:30 am
cunningham wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 am
Sergeant Rubetube wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:29 pm


He was a busta like Keenum. Had a horse shoe stuck in his ass for half a season in what was a pitiful career.

Jackson was the right play in the playoffs.
Even though he got his ass kicked?

Our disagreement on quarterbacks goes back decades I guess. TJoke was all arm, but Gus got us to the playoffs that year. He got hurt, Jackson comes in and blows away the Cards because they had no film in him. Gus should have started.

This is why you suck at evaluating quarterbacks and it goes deep. I bet JoeTrollSpammer would agree with you just like DHTroll for years spent pushing TJoke to the point where I felt bad for Jackson. I suppose the ultimate irony is that Jackson has a Super Bowl ring.

Here is the flaw though and what you also miss about your beloved Kirk. Jackson and Cousins had amazing arms, Cousins has much better accuracy, but both struggled to get first downs. Both folded in big games. Having more time to watch Jackson one major issue was that he could be game-planned for and shut down.

My fear is that is what is happening with Cousins. Same thing with Bradford.

In the NFL for a quarterback to succeed you have to change up your patterns and tendencies. That is what makes the position so unbelievably difficult. Eagles called out Bradford and said when he was pressured he threw outside. So the has corners drop to the edges. Chicago did the same thing. That is why when Bradford came in against the Bears for Keenum he was shut down. The injury was the excuse. Same with TJoke, the injury was an excuse to get him off the field.

Now if Cousins struggles and goes down with injury....

Before you get your panties all bunched up I want to say that Cousins is significantly more experienced and a better quarterback than Bradford, Jackson, or Gus.

Very interesting you compare Gus and Keenum because I liked those two when they got the keys to the offense. The main reason being that the got first downs. What you have got to understand is that a rocket arm is great for highlights, but it might not win you games. The most important skill is to get first downs. Especially when they are most needed. You can feel it as a fan. When we get to third down and Teddy, Case, Favre, or Gus were in there you had hope they would move around and get it. Those guys would stand in the pocket and throw at that last moment. That split second when they will be hit, but their guy flashes open.

I haven’t seen that from Cousins and it is why all last season when it became third down I watched my hope disappear.

Can that be coached? Or does a quarterback just have that internal clock and 6th sense about pressure.

Gus should have started that playoff game because he was why we were there. Hell, Ponder impressed me the year helped us make the playoffs, but he got hurt in that game and Webb was crap the next week. Which is why when people focus solely on AP for that era they are morons. If AP was the big reason we always won them why did we suck so bad when Webb came in?

I hate rehashing this piss poor period, but I know you love to troll this shit so I thought I would give you something to chew on. You are so off of quarterbacks it is no wonder you think after last season we are about to win the Super Bowl.
You get that Tube? The guy that was impressed by Ponder is calling your QB take out.

:lol:
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Re: A View From The Cheap Seats (Fly On The Wall Edition)

Post by cunningham » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:05 pm

Why do I bother with you two?

Morons. Hate is right about you Sergeant Rubetube I guess.

Here I thought you wanted a conversation, but I should have known better.

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