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Post by cunningham » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:25 am

From the StarTrib today:
The Vikings’ commitment to quarterback Kirk Cousins, a three-year, $84 million bet on the team’s readiness to win now, has ripple effects throughout the roster. One of the smaller, but noteworthy, aftershocks may reinforce a Vikings’ approach to the NFL Draft: Rick Spielman just doesn’t use draft capital on developmental quarterbacks.

Minnesota has drafted the fewest quarterbacks (2) among all NFL teams in the past decade outside of Atlanta, where the Falcons have started Matt Ryan the entire time. The Vikings’ two draft picks on passers (Teddy Bridgewater, Christian Ponder) since 2009 is tied with three franchises boasting future Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the Saints, Packers and Chargers.

Level of need
Last. The Vikings have not drafted a quarterback outside the first round in a decade. A massive investment in Cousins may prevent that from changing as the Vikings allocate resources to the rest of the roster. Former Rams quarterback Sean Mannion, expected to sign a one-year deal with the Vikings, adds a third passer to the room after the loss of Trevor Siemian to the Jets in free agency.

Contract years
Kirk Cousins (2020)
Sean Mannion (2019)
Kyle Sloter (2019)

Draft history
Teddy Bridgewater (2014, 32nd overall)
Christian Ponder (2011, 12th overall)
John David Booty (2008, 137th overall)
Tyler Thigpen (2007, 217th overall)
Tarvaris Jackson (2006, 64th overall)

Don’t forget about
Kyle Sloter. The third-year quarterback has put forth two strong preseasons, but has been entrenched in the No. 3 spot on the depth chart. If Mannion is his top competition this summer, Sloter could have a legitimate shot at earning the backup job this time around. He’s excited to bereunited with new Vikings quarterbacks coach Klint Kubiak, who coached Sloter in Denver.

Five names to know
Kyle Kempt, Iowa State: The former walk-on quarterback had a prolific run as Iowa State’s starter in 2017 before he struggled and suffered an injured knee during last year’s season opener. The Cyclones beat No. 3 Oklahoma and No. 4 TCU with Kempt under center the previous season. He’s a relative unknown having appeared in just 13 big-time college games.

Brett Rypien, Boise State: What Rypien (6-1, 210) lacks in prototypical size, athleticism and arm strength, he made up for with accuracy and proficiency in college. He threw for 90 touchdowns to 29 interceptions in four seasons. Rypien also reportedly had a solid week during the East-West Shrine Game and practices while playing for the West team coached by Vikings linebackers coach Adam Zimmer.

Easton Stick, North Dakota State: Stick filled big shoes while stepping in for Carson Wentz, and the three-year team captain became the FCS’ all-time leader in win percentage with a 49-3 record in four seasons. Questions about Stick’s arm could drop him into undrafted free agency.

Manny Wilkins, Arizona State: Wilkins was a dual threat as a three-year starter for the Sun Devils, throwing 52 touchdowns and running for 20 touchdowns. He’s shown to have a strong arm, but reportedly projects as unpolished for the NFL.

Taylor Cornelius, Oklahoma State: Another unpolished prospect with natural talents is Cornelius, who was not invited to the combine but should draw interest as an undrafted free agent. He’s listed 6-6 and 232 pounds, making him an interesting project after he threw for 32 touchdowns and 13 interceptions in his lone season at the helm.

How it’ll happen
Our best guess is the Vikings will add another quarterback in undrafted free agency, with the level of player depending on how they approach bidding wars for the best of who’s left after the NFL Draft. They may just settle for a camp arm picked up through a tryout with three quarterbacks already expected to be under contract.
Still praying we take a quarterback in the draft! Preferably early! Or trade a 2nd for Rosen.

Gotta at least take a few more shots at that position. I heard it is important.

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Post by Obi-Wan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:45 pm

I do not think there are many teams that have invested more in QB than the Vikings the last 10 years. Irrelevant that they have drafted the fewest.
2009 Traded a draft pick for Rosenfels
2009-2010 Huge contract to Favre
2011 Traded draft pick for McNabb
2011 Drafted Ponder #1
2014 Drafted Bridgewater #1
2016 Traded #1 for Bradford
2018 Signed Cousins to huge contract
2018 Traded draft pick for SImien

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Post by PurpleFloyd » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:58 pm

It was worse in the 20 years before Wilf bought the team

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:49 am

They’ve rarely been bad enough to draft high enough to take a lot of QBs early in the draft.

And rightfully, they haven’t wasted a lot of picks on QBs in the later rounds, since those players almost never develop into anything worthwhile.

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Post by 64DegreeWedge » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:36 am

And they’ve had little success.

Mind blowing that they would pay cousins instead of drafting one every year.
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Post by Obi-Wan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:53 am

64DegreeWedge wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:36 am
And they’ve had little success.

Mind blowing that they would pay cousins instead of drafting one every year.
That is a waste of draft picks because there is enough time to develop them because you are cutting one of these QB every year. Drafting one every 3 years would be more logical. Any QB outside of round 1 is a long shot.

How many QB drafted in the last 10 years are better than Cousins?

Cam Newton?
Mayfield?
Andrew Luck
Russel Wilson
Mahomes

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Post by 64DegreeWedge » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:56 am

It all depends on the system and coaching too. Josh Rosen was drawing dead last year with the system they had in place.

Having an elite qb on their rookie deal is the stone nuts.

Now the Vikes have an overpaid qb and declining talent.ill be shocked if this team can contend
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Post by Obi-Wan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
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Ahem...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Webb
He was drafted as a WR.

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Post by RubeTube » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:15 pm

Obi-Wan wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:53 am
64DegreeWedge wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:36 am
And they’ve had little success.

Mind blowing that they would pay cousins instead of drafting one every year.
That is a waste of draft picks because there is enough time to develop them because you are cutting one of these QB every year. Drafting one every 3 years would be more logical. Any QB outside of round 1 is a long shot.

How many QB drafted in the last 10 years are better than Cousins?

Cam Newton?
Mayfield?
Andrew Luck
Russel Wilson
Mahomes
Your are correct, Obi Wan.

I would take Cousins over Cam. Mayfield hasn't proven to be better than Cousins yet either.
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Post by Joe Bag 'O Donuts » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:13 pm

Obi-Wan wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 pm
Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:22 pm
Ahem...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Webb
He was drafted as a WR.
He played QB in college This is a bit semantic, he played, and plays QB. This article, according what has been provided by the OP, never even mentions Webb. And that's disingenuous.

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Post by Why Not Us » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:00 pm

You answered your own question on why the Vikings don't draft more QBs:

Draft history
Teddy Bridgewater (2014, 32nd overall)
Christian Ponder (2011, 12th overall)
John David Booty (2008, 137th overall)
Tyler Thigpen (2007, 217th overall)
Tarvaris Jackson (2006, 64th overall)

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:30 pm

The number of QBs drafted is irrelevant other that teams who spend a ton of picks on late round QBs are being foolish.

If this is meant as an argument to say the Vikings are neglecting the QB position or that they should be taking fliers on all kinds of late round QBs, that logic is just not supported by facts or stats.

If, as has been discussed in other threads, there was some kind of affiliated developmental league where these raw QBs could actually get reps, then by all means, teams should sign every QB they can get and benefit when a few become NFL caliber.

But right now, if you don’t have a franchise QB, you’re pretty much forced to take one early in the first round or find a veteran to get you by.

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Post by Obi-Wan » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am

Developmental league would never produce enough QBs to justify cost. How many has CFL produced in 50 years?

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Post by Obi-Wan » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:15 am

Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:13 pm
Obi-Wan wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 pm
Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:22 pm
Ahem...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Webb
He was drafted as a WR.
He played QB in college This is a bit semantic, he played, and plays QB. This article, according what has been provided by the OP, never even mentions Webb. And that's disingenuous.
Well you can add Jerick McKinnon to the list as well since he played QB in college. Drafted as a RB.

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Post by Joe Bag 'O Donuts » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:08 am

Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:15 am
Joe Bag 'O Donuts wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:13 pm
Obi-Wan wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 pm


He was drafted as a WR.
He played QB in college This is a bit semantic, he played, and plays QB. This article, according what has been provided by the OP, never even mentions Webb. And that's disingenuous.
Well you can add Jerick McKinnon to the list as well since he played QB in college. Drafted as a RB.
And then never played QB again. But good point. Add him to the list if you wish.

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Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am
Developmental league would never produce enough QBs to justify cost. How many has CFL produced in 50 years?
For how brief it was, there were a number of successful quarterbacks who played in the WLAF including a few that played in the Superbowl (Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Jake DelHomme).

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Post by Obi-Wan » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am

Dude wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:24 am
Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am
Developmental league would never produce enough QBs to justify cost. How many has CFL produced in 50 years?
For how brief it was, there were a number of successful quarterbacks who played in the WLAF including a few that played in the Superbowl (Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Jake DelHomme).
Who is to say that they developed because of that league? That is not many, one of the reasons it was scrapped. Also, those players were already on NFL squads.

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Post by HeHateMe » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:38 am

Obi-Wan wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:45 pm
I do not think there are many teams that have invested more in QB than the Vikings the last 10 years. Irrelevant that they have drafted the fewest.
2009 Traded a draft pick for Rosenfels
2009-2010 Huge contract to Favre
2011 Traded draft pick for McNabb
2011 Drafted Ponder #1
2014 Drafted Bridgewater #1
2016 Traded #1 for Bradford
2018 Signed Cousins to huge contract
2018 Traded draft pick for SImien
I'm glad this was the first response. Trading draft picks for QBs is the same as drafting one IMO.
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Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am
Dude wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:24 am
Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am
Developmental league would never produce enough QBs to justify cost. How many has CFL produced in 50 years?
For how brief it was, there were a number of successful quarterbacks who played in the WLAF including a few that played in the Superbowl (Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Jake DelHomme).
Who is to say that they developed because of that league? That is not many, one of the reasons it was scrapped. Also, those players were already on NFL squads.
Who's to say they didn't?

"None, however, have spurred the kind of quarterback growth that NFL Europe/World League of American Football achieved in the 1990s. Dozens of future NFL quarterbacks participated, and you might be surprised at the number of eventual starters who can trace a jump-start to their career to extended playing time in Europe or the league's early domestic locales. "

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1970 ... e-delhomme

The league scrapped because nobody gives a shit about football in Barcelona or Hamburg. They didn't sell tickets and it wasn't expanding their fanbase. That's why the NFL left it and decided to focus on London.

The point is it did give guys an opportunity to see reps against high level competition, which is something that does not exist today. It doesn't matter if they were already on NFL squads or not.

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:37 pm

Dude wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:46 am
Obi-Wan wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am
Dude wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:24 am


For how brief it was, there were a number of successful quarterbacks who played in the WLAF including a few that played in the Superbowl (Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Jake DelHomme).
Who is to say that they developed because of that league? That is not many, one of the reasons it was scrapped. Also, those players were already on NFL squads.
Who's to say they didn't?

"None, however, have spurred the kind of quarterback growth that NFL Europe/World League of American Football achieved in the 1990s. Dozens of future NFL quarterbacks participated, and you might be surprised at the number of eventual starters who can trace a jump-start to their career to extended playing time in Europe or the league's early domestic locales. "

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1970 ... e-delhomme

The league scrapped because nobody gives a shit about football in Barcelona or Hamburg. They didn't sell tickets and it wasn't expanding their fanbase. That's why the NFL left it and decided to focus on London.

The point is it did give guys an opportunity to see reps against high level competition, which is something that does not exist today. It doesn't matter if they were already on NFL squads or not.
With the AAF and XFL and NFL Europe failing because of lack of revenue, I think a “minor league” with affiliation to NFL clubs could have a chance hypothetically, but the logistics would be hard to iron out.

If each of the 32 NFL teams had a “sister” team where they could stash young guys, especially QBs, I think there’d be enough interest in that.

Let’s say the Vikings’ affiliate was based in Iowa, and featured some players that Vikings fans in Iowa were familiar with like Sloter, Beebe, Treadwell, etc. I think there’s a market for a league like that, especially if the recognizable college stats who don’t necessarily translate to the NFL right away (Tebow, Chris Leak, Manziel, etc.) were all involved.

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Post by -VikingsTw- » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:58 pm

Yet we've had some good QB play at times throughout the past 12 years. There has also been some bad.

I'm sure it's true but I heard today that the Vikings have only drafted one interior offensive lineman in the top four rounds in the past 12 years.

This theory of getting really good interior offensive lineman in the late rounds of draft isn't working so good for the Vikings, might be time to change it up before another season is ruined because of incompetent Offensive Line lacking quality depth.

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Post by Tmoney » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm

I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.

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Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
There’s no way I’m spending a 2nd round pick on a QB unless you don’t have a starting QB or your starting QB is old and will be gone within a couple years.

And even in the third round and beyond, the odds of those QBs becoming starting caliber is very low.

If there’s a particular QB in a specific draft that you like and want to take a flier on him, I have no problem with that. But I’m against the “throw a ton of shit against the wall, and eventually something will stick” theory. I get the logic but too many wasted picks when 3rd-5th round picks can be very valuable when building a roster. Griffen, Diggs, Hunter, Harris, Joseph, Cousins and Thielen were all taken in their respective drafts (Thielen was undrafted) in the third round or later.

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Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
We have our guy. His name is KIRK DANIEL COUSINS
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Ash Ketchum wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:40 pm
Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
There’s no way I’m spending a 2nd round pick on a QB unless you don’t have a starting QB or your starting QB is old and will be gone within a couple years.

And even in the third round and beyond, the odds of those QBs becoming starting caliber is very low.

If there’s a particular QB in a specific draft that you like and want to take a flier on him, I have no problem with that. But I’m against the “throw a ton of shit against the wall, and eventually something will stick” theory. I get the logic but too many wasted picks when 3rd-5th round picks can be very valuable when building a roster. Griffen, Diggs, Hunter, Harris, Joseph, Cousins and Thielen were all taken in their respective drafts (Thielen was undrafted) in the third round or later.
What round was Cousins taken in again?

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:38 am

cunningham wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:29 am
Ash Ketchum wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:40 pm
Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
There’s no way I’m spending a 2nd round pick on a QB unless you don’t have a starting QB or your starting QB is old and will be gone within a couple years.

And even in the third round and beyond, the odds of those QBs becoming starting caliber is very low.

If there’s a particular QB in a specific draft that you like and want to take a flier on him, I have no problem with that. But I’m against the “throw a ton of shit against the wall, and eventually something will stick” theory. I get the logic but too many wasted picks when 3rd-5th round picks can be very valuable when building a roster. Griffen, Diggs, Hunter, Harris, Joseph, Cousins and Thielen were all taken in their respective drafts (Thielen was undrafted) in the third round or later.
What round was Cousins taken in again?
Nice, do you believe Cousins is more of a rule or exception?

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Ash Ketchum wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:40 pm
Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
There’s no way I’m spending a 2nd round pick on a QB unless you don’t have a starting QB or your starting QB is old and will be gone within a couple years.

And even in the third round and beyond, the odds of those QBs becoming starting caliber is very low.

If there’s a particular QB in a specific draft that you like and want to take a flier on him, I have no problem with that. But I’m against the “throw a ton of shit against the wall, and eventually something will stick” theory. I get the logic but too many wasted picks when 3rd-5th round picks can be very valuable when building a roster. Griffen, Diggs, Hunter, Harris, Joseph, Cousins and Thielen were all taken in their respective drafts (Thielen was undrafted) in the third round or later.
That's why is said unless you know you have your guy, to keep trying. A QB should have been eyed yearly when Ponder was here.

You are right we could have missed out on some good players.

Also, willie beavers, yankey, Christian Ballard brandon burton damarcus love, Josh Robinson, greg childs, scott chricton, tj clemming, used pick 143 in the 5th for Mychole Pruitt, 3 picks later took diggs.

All guys that did nothing here, and picked in that range. A QB could have been taken some point and at least had a chance to develope.

May e they had a decent option and didn't have to get Bradford after Teddy went down and give up what they did.

Who knows

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:32 am

Tmoney wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:42 am
Ash Ketchum wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:40 pm
Tmoney wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:50 pm
I have been saying for a decade now. Unless you know you have your guy, a QB should be drafted yearly.

Somewhere between rounds 2 and 5.
There’s no way I’m spending a 2nd round pick on a QB unless you don’t have a starting QB or your starting QB is old and will be gone within a couple years.

And even in the third round and beyond, the odds of those QBs becoming starting caliber is very low.

If there’s a particular QB in a specific draft that you like and want to take a flier on him, I have no problem with that. But I’m against the “throw a ton of shit against the wall, and eventually something will stick” theory. I get the logic but too many wasted picks when 3rd-5th round picks can be very valuable when building a roster. Griffen, Diggs, Hunter, Harris, Joseph, Cousins and Thielen were all taken in their respective drafts (Thielen was undrafted) in the third round or later.
That's why is said unless you know you have your guy, to keep trying. A QB should have been eyed yearly when Ponder was here.

You are right we could have missed out on some good players.

Also, willie beavers, yankey, Christian Ballard brandon burton damarcus love, Josh Robinson, greg childs, scott chricton, tj clemming, used pick 143 in the 5th for Mychole Pruitt, 3 picks later took diggs.

All guys that did nothing here, and picked in that range. A QB could have been taken some point and at least had a chance to develope.

May e they had a decent option and didn't have to get Bradford after Teddy went down and give up what they did.

Who knows
There currently is almost no way for a QB to develop unless he is the starter.

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