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Gary Kubiak joins the Vikings staff (along with son and others)

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Post by bombers3shooter » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:31 am

Would be great! Shermur employed more of a zone blocking scheme. Reiff flourished and Elf was also more effective. O'Neil seems like a guy that would be a great fit for more zone. I think this would be a good move considering the pieces we have in the cupboard!
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Post by Da Gas Man » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:31 am

HeHateMe wrote:
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what can we be offering him that Jaguars aren't offering more? OC is a great position - albeit there are QB issues. OC consultant here?

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Post by Ash Ketchum » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:45 am

I know Kubiak has had health issues in the past. Didn’t he have to get rushed to the hospital during a game one season?

Maybe he wants a more behind the scenes role than OC?

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We're going to have two OC's!!!

Twice the offense!
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Post by Da Gas Man » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pm

I think we must be offering Offensive Consultant/ Assistant Head Coach. So he can oversee Stefanski.

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Da Gas Man wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pm
I think we must be offering Offensive Consultant/ Assistant Head Coach. So he can oversee Stefanski.
Awesome. Sounds like a can't backfire at all plan.

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Simpson Get Lifted wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:00 pm
Da Gas Man wrote:
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I think we must be offering Offensive Consultant/ Assistant Head Coach. So he can oversee Stefanski.
Awesome. Sounds like a can't backfire at all plan.
I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying that it is the only thing that makes sense if they are interviewing Kubiak at all.

Chilly was the offensive consultant under Reid while Nagy was offensive coordinator. Now, Reid ran the offense so it was certainly different.

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Post by Simpson Get Lifted » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:11 pm

Da Gas Man wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:04 pm
Simpson Get Lifted wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:00 pm
Da Gas Man wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pm
I think we must be offering Offensive Consultant/ Assistant Head Coach. So he can oversee Stefanski.
Awesome. Sounds like a can't backfire at all plan.
I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying that it is the only thing that makes sense if they are interviewing Kubiak at all.

Chilly was the offensive consultant under Reid while Nagy was offensive coordinator. Now, Reid ran the offense so it was certainly different.
No, I'm not criticizing you at all, and I don't know how the Reid/Chilly/Nagy power structure came about. But this reeks of Zim getting one of his old school buddies to keep tabs on Stefanski. I guess I would feel a bit undermined if I were just hired, and then not trusted to do it my way.

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Post by Da Gas Man » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:27 pm

Simpson Get Lifted wrote:
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Awesome. Sounds like a can't backfire at all plan.
I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying that it is the only thing that makes sense if they are interviewing Kubiak at all.

Chilly was the offensive consultant under Reid while Nagy was offensive coordinator. Now, Reid ran the offense so it was certainly different.
No, I'm not criticizing you at all, and I don't know how the Reid/Chilly/Nagy power structure came about. But this reeks of Zim getting one of his old school buddies to keep tabs on Stefanski. I guess I would feel a bit undermined if I were just hired, and then not trusted to do it my way.
I understood that you were only commenting on the situation. While I agree with you that it seems like a recipe for disaster, it could also work out (although the odds might be small). Simply, if Kubiak really doesn't want to be the OC but wants to be a help. Then he can become Stefanski's right hand man. He can be the head coach that normal OC's get. I think Zimmer is not good with handling the offensive side of the ball.

But that is if it works perfectly. There are many possibilities where it doesn't work out as well. It's also possible that the vikings don't care if it works out with Stefanski. Simply, if he succeeds, great. If he doesn't, Kubiak is built in already.

I think Zimmer and Speilman only consider this if they felt the heat of being fired. Basically, they don't want to put all their eggs in Stefanski's basket and that was what they were doing. This is survival here.

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Post by hategreenticemase » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:39 pm

More importantly, is this Rick Dennison part of the deal and is he the real deal????

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Post by Angry Waters » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:40 pm

Simpson Get Lifted wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:11 pm
Da Gas Man wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:04 pm
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Awesome. Sounds like a can't backfire at all plan.
I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying that it is the only thing that makes sense if they are interviewing Kubiak at all.

Chilly was the offensive consultant under Reid while Nagy was offensive coordinator. Now, Reid ran the offense so it was certainly different.
No, I'm not criticizing you at all, and I don't know how the Reid/Chilly/Nagy power structure came about. But this reeks of Zim getting one of his old school buddies to keep tabs on Stefanski. I guess I would feel a bit undermined if I were just hired, and then not trusted to do it my way.
I was thinking the same thing...wondering what Stefanski's thoughts were on this. My guess is he's not too thrilled. Here's to hoping it works, though!

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Post by HeHateMe » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:52 pm

Angry Waters wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:40 pm
Simpson Get Lifted wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:11 pm
Da Gas Man wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:04 pm


I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying that it is the only thing that makes sense if they are interviewing Kubiak at all.

Chilly was the offensive consultant under Reid while Nagy was offensive coordinator. Now, Reid ran the offense so it was certainly different.
No, I'm not criticizing you at all, and I don't know how the Reid/Chilly/Nagy power structure came about. But this reeks of Zim getting one of his old school buddies to keep tabs on Stefanski. I guess I would feel a bit undermined if I were just hired, and then not trusted to do it my way.
I was thinking the same thing...wondering what Stefanski's thoughts were on this. My guess is he's not too thrilled. Here's to hoping it works, though!
Apparently he's thrilled!

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Post by EnLiteEndOne » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:09 pm

If Stefanski has any aspirations to be a HC, and why wouldn't he, Kubiak is a fantastic guy to have vouching on your behalf.
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Post by Obi-Wan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:13 pm

I bet he will get assistant head coach title. Zimmer always brings in an extra OC in case he has to fire one.

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Post by witljon » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:42 pm

This looks like a nice insurance plan for Zimmer.
If Kevin Stefanski's offense struggles, he can fire him and have Gary Kubiak take over.

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Post by Phrooster » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Zim s replacement?

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Post by DC4MVP » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:32 pm

16-0.

Book it, boys. Book it.

Kidding aside (15-1 is more realistic)....This is pretty great. Zimmer is going to have a former offensive minded HC who has seen EVERYTHING but won't be pre-occupied with calling plays standing right next to him during the games. He can run the offensive side of the ball and teach Stefanki (as a former OC) while Zimmer keeps most his focus on the defense. Pretty much what we need since Zimmer seems to want to spend most his time on defense.

This is like having your (Zimmer) buddies ex-wife (Kubiak) hang around your girlfriend (Stefanski) to teach her the ways of being a good wife (OC).

This is a good hire.

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Post by Hornets » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:29 pm

Phrooster wrote:
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Zim s replacement?
No doubt....Kubiak is perhaps Zygi's insurance policy if he has to show Zim the door.....me likey!

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Post by Oscar » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:38 pm

What a stupid signing. When your restaurant is fucked up, you don’t hire more cooks, you change the menu.

And for the bozos who think this is a great insurance policy, how did that Frazier for Childress deal work out.

When you blow something up, you get rid of everyone!
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Post by witljon » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:15 pm

Oscar wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:38 pm
What a stupid signing. When your restaurant is fucked up, you don’t hire more cooks, you change the menu.

And for the bozos who think this is a great insurance policy, how did that Frazier for Childress deal work out.

When you blow something up, you get rid of everyone!
I don't know if anyone here is saying this is a great insurance policy. Its just nice for Zimmer.

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Post by RALPH MALPH » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:34 pm

what a clusterfuck of a situation. Zim is gone after this year. good riddance sir!

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Post by PurpleFloyd » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:35 pm

I like the move. Bringing in Kubiak guarantees that our running game will become one of the best in the league and he has a pedigree in having a great OL so I'm behind this move 100%.

I had pretty much lost faith in Zimmer but this move went a long way towards restoring it.

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Post by Simpson Get Lifted » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:47 pm

PurpleFloyd wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:35 pm
I like the move. Bringing in Kubiak guarantees that our running game will become one of the best in the league and he has a pedigree in having a great OL so I'm behind this move 100%.

I had pretty much lost faith in Zimmer but this move went a long way towards restoring it.
Well, now with 2 HC's, 2 OC's, and 2 DC's, you'd hope someone could figure something out.

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Post by Face The Facts » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:05 pm

I don't even know what to say about this management structure.

Imagine you just got promoted at work, then your new boss assigns you a new boss to be a layer between you and your new boss.

But if Stefanski is happy with this, I find that even more puzzling. Shows total non-leadership unless if he feels he needs the additional support. But in that case, how did you just get the job?

It all seems strange, but what do I know.

To me it almost appears more of a backup plan for Spielman since he spent his last year as a Senior Personnel Advisor. Issue with that is I've been a Vikings fan too long to understand that good news such as that can't be within 12 months of happening. We have another 5-10 years of Spielman purgatory to go.
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Post by Tommy_Hawk » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:12 pm

I'd guess they signed Stefanski before they knew Kubiak and Co. was available. Or Kubiak wanted the Kush job, where he doesn't have much responsibility as far as media obligations, and pressure.
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Post by Ash Ketchum » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:16 pm

Face The Facts wrote:
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I don't even know what to say about this management structure.

Imagine you just got promoted at work, then your new boss assigns you a new boss to be a layer between you and your new boss.

But if Stefanski is happy with this, I find that even more puzzling. Shows total non-leadership unless if he feels he needs the additional support. But in that case, how did you just get the job?

It all seems strange, but what do I know.

To me it almost appears more of a backup plan for Spielman since he spent his last year as a Senior Personnel Advisor. Issue with that is I've been a Vikings fan too long to understand that good news such as that can't be within 12 months of happening. We have another 5-10 years of Spielman purgatory to go.
Calm down.

None of us know the inner workings of how the dynamic between Kubiak and Stefanski. By all accounts, Stefanski and the Kubiaks are tight, and if that’s true, this feels like it’s not as dramatic as you’re suggesting.

Obviously, you might end up being right, but I just don’t think it’s destined to fail like you’re saying.

If you’re Stefanski and you welcome the Kubiak hire, it’s stupid to suggest that means he has a lack of leadership.

If anything, that shows great leadership to accept input from others. Wolves fans are currently celebrating Ryan Saunders for recently taking the advice of his assistant coaches when Thibs never would.

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