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I had enough insight to be years ahead of the curve on Wiggins, while you "bitched" at me for criticizing his ability, you had a lot more hope then.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:54 am I’m not sure what your insight was other than cheer for Andrew Wiggins to retire because he sucks. Wow! Move over Bob Ryan and Jack McCallum we have awesome basketball insight flying at us!
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Look at my post s on Wiggins going back to 2017. Or even on the old board when we had it.I’ve never been a Wiggins bobo. You’re reaching. It’s cool. It’s funny you could honestly just read this thread and figure out I criticize Wiggins regularlyzeitgeist wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:12 amI had enough insight to be years ahead of the curve on Wiggins, while you "bitched" at me for criticizing his ability, you had a lot more hope then.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:54 am I’m not sure what your insight was other than cheer for Andrew Wiggins to retire because he sucks. Wow! Move over Bob Ryan and Jack McCallum we have awesome basketball insight flying at us!
How about Saric and Covington? (and something else if needed)Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 3:59 pm The Wolves don't have anything of near value to get Simmons. They could offer their whole team without Towns and Philly would hang up the phone lol.
I never said you were a "Wiggins bobo", but you ABSOLUTELY did exactly what I said in my post you replied to. Yeah, you started criticizing Wiggins more openly around the same time everyone else did, when his PPG went down. You can hope that Wiggins will get better, I can hope that the Climate Change problem will fix itself on its own, we can both hope for things.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:18 amI have no idea what you’re talking about. Look at my post s on Wiggins going back to 2017. Or even on the old board when we had it.I’ve never been a Wiggins bobo. You’re reaching. It’s cool. It’s funny you could honestly just read this thread and figure out I criticize Wiggins regularlyzeitgeist wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:12 amI had enough insight to be years ahead of the curve on Wiggins, while you "bitched" at me for criticizing his ability, you had a lot more hope then.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:54 am I’m not sure what your insight was other than cheer for Andrew Wiggins to retire because he sucks. Wow! Move over Bob Ryan and Jack McCallum we have awesome basketball insight flying at us!
Awesome argument. Wigs sucks! Yes he does! I said Wigs sucks! Yes he does! No I said Wigs sucks......and I said it first. So? Wigs sucks and I said it too.zeitgeist wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 5:24 amI never said you were a "Wiggins bobo", but you ABSOLUTELY did exactly what I said in my post you replied to. Yeah, you started criticizing Wiggins more openly around the same time everyone else did, when his PPG went down. You can hope that Wiggins will get better, I can hope that the Climate Change problem will fix itself on its own, we can both hope for things.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:18 amI have no idea what you’re talking about. Look at my post s on Wiggins going back to 2017. Or even on the old board when we had it.I’ve never been a Wiggins bobo. You’re reaching. It’s cool. It’s funny you could honestly just read this thread and figure out I criticize Wiggins regularly
Well apparently my basketball knowledge was determined by the fact that I said we should hope Andrew Wiggins gets better. That was deemed ridiculous. But I’ll stand by it. Our best hope at relevance is Andrew Wiggins becoming a smarter, more efficient player. And maybe Rosas can have an impact on that. We’ll see.
Snap.
Wigs still has the higher ceiling than Zach because at least he can defend at times. Lolvine will always be terrible at defense, even his own dad said so.
UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 5:48 pmWigs still has the higher ceiling than Zach because at least he can defend at times. Lolvine will always be terrible at defense, even his own dad said so.
From Zach's own Dad from the Athletic article on how Zach was a top 10 worst defender in the leaguej2j wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:00 pmUnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 5:48 pmWigs still has the higher ceiling than Zach because at least he can defend at times. Lolvine will always be terrible at defense, even his own dad said so.
Learn the game noob“Zach didn’t play defense in high school,” Paul LaVine told Mayberry. “Because of the situation. Zach was everything to his high school. His high school never won anything until he got there. But all they worked on was put the ball in Zach’s hands. And the coach made him guard the sorriest guys. So he didn’t do anything. I didn’t work (with Zach) on defense. All we worked on was shooting, because that’s what he was good at.”
LaVine was never taught proper technique for anticipating screens and getting around them, which is one of the most important skills for a perimeter defender. Rather than predicting where a screen is coming, LaVine drifts right into them like a moth to a flame. When he does get hit, he either gives up or tries to barrel straight through them.
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:12 pmFrom Zach's own Dad from the Athletic article on how Zach was a top 10 worst defender in the leaguej2j wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:00 pmUnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 5:48 pm
Wigs still has the higher ceiling than Zach because at least he can defend at times. Lolvine will always be terrible at defense, even his own dad said so.
Learn the game noob“Zach didn’t play defense in high school,” Paul LaVine told Mayberry. “Because of the situation. Zach was everything to his high school. His high school never won anything until he got there. But all they worked on was put the ball in Zach’s hands. And the coach made him guard the sorriest guys. So he didn’t do anything. I didn’t work (with Zach) on defense. All we worked on was shooting, because that’s what he was good at.”
LaVine was never taught proper technique for anticipating screens and getting around them, which is one of the most important skills for a perimeter defender. Rather than predicting where a screen is coming, LaVine drifts right into them like a moth to a flame. When he does get hit, he either gives up or tries to barrel straight through them.
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
Lavine is right now both better than Wiggins and better than WIggins will ever be. Zach at least has a very good and well developed offensive game meanwhile Wiggins has neither that or a defensive game.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:12 pmFrom Zach's own Dad from the Athletic article on how Zach was a top 10 worst defender in the leaguej2j wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:00 pmUnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 5:48 pm
Wigs still has the higher ceiling than Zach because at least he can defend at times. Lolvine will always be terrible at defense, even his own dad said so.
Learn the game noob“Zach didn’t play defense in high school,” Paul LaVine told Mayberry. “Because of the situation. Zach was everything to his high school. His high school never won anything until he got there. But all they worked on was put the ball in Zach’s hands. And the coach made him guard the sorriest guys. So he didn’t do anything. I didn’t work (with Zach) on defense. All we worked on was shooting, because that’s what he was good at.”
LaVine was never taught proper technique for anticipating screens and getting around them, which is one of the most important skills for a perimeter defender. Rather than predicting where a screen is coming, LaVine drifts right into them like a moth to a flame. When he does get hit, he either gives up or tries to barrel straight through them.
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
I’ve seen Thibs bench Lolvine twice live in person in the 4th quarter because he was getting abused on defense trying to guard Aaron affalo and Gary Harris jr.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:26 pm Fade most of the things in that article apply to Andrew Wiggins as well. He doesn’t fight screens, he doesn’t rotate properly, he’s lazy closing out on shooters. I mean you have to realize that.
Pretty big statement coming from the guy who pushed the fake news narrative that Butler slept with Town’s girlfriend when it was debunked by Jonny Athletic and Towns himself.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:37 pmLavine is right now both better than Wiggins and better than WIggins will ever be. Zach at least has a very good and well developed offensive game meanwhile Wiggins has neither that or a defensive game.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:12 pmFrom Zach's own Dad from the Athletic article on how Zach was a top 10 worst defender in the league
Learn the game noob“Zach didn’t play defense in high school,” Paul LaVine told Mayberry. “Because of the situation. Zach was everything to his high school. His high school never won anything until he got there. But all they worked on was put the ball in Zach’s hands. And the coach made him guard the sorriest guys. So he didn’t do anything. I didn’t work (with Zach) on defense. All we worked on was shooting, because that’s what he was good at.”
LaVine was never taught proper technique for anticipating screens and getting around them, which is one of the most important skills for a perimeter defender. Rather than predicting where a screen is coming, LaVine drifts right into them like a moth to a flame. When he does get hit, he either gives up or tries to barrel straight through them.
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
Fade with the strawman!UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:41 pmPretty big statement coming from the guy who pushed the fake news narrative that Butler slept with Town’s girlfriend when it was debunked by Jonny Athletic and Towns himself.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:37 pmLavine is right now both better than Wiggins and better than WIggins will ever be. Zach at least has a very good and well developed offensive game meanwhile Wiggins has neither that or a defensive game.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:12 pm
From Zach's own Dad from the Athletic article on how Zach was a top 10 worst defender in the league
Learn the game noob
Chris Broussard just said today on Undisputed that Linda Rambis is trying to convince Jeanie to give her husband an interview for the job.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:44 pmFade with the strawman!UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:41 pmPretty big statement coming from the guy who pushed the fake news narrative that Butler slept with Town’s girlfriend when it was debunked by Jonny Athletic and Towns himself.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:37 pm
Lavine is right now both better than Wiggins and better than WIggins will ever be. Zach at least has a very good and well developed offensive game meanwhile Wiggins has neither that or a defensive game.
Don't forget you were the one who thought Rambis was being interviewed for the head coaching job of the Lakers and that comparing Wiggins' FT% to LeBron's meant something.
You just got your ass 1 week in detention.
It's amusing that you can't see the hypocrisy of you clinging to a rumor that wont come true and using a strawman for posting a rumor in the off season.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:51 pm
Chris Broussard just said today on Undisputed that Linda Rambis is trying to convince Jeanie to give her husband an interview for the job.
And what’s not factual that Wiggins shot better free throws than Lebron this year?
Get served daily again like you are used too noob.
Learn the game
Which Affalo game; was it the 5/9 for 16pts that LaVine didn't suit up for or the 1/4 for 2pts that LaVine went off for 40 in?UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:38 pmI’ve seen Thibs bench Lolvine twice live in person in the 4th quarter because he was getting abused on defense trying to guard Aaron affalo and Gary Harris jr.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:26 pm Fade most of the things in that article apply to Andrew Wiggins as well. He doesn’t fight screens, he doesn’t rotate properly, he’s lazy closing out on shooters. I mean you have to realize that.
Wigs has been playing out of position for the last two seasons at small forward. Doesn’t have the strength to guard those guys.
Keep him at SG and watch him turn another level up.
My mistake, it was CJ Watson. 2017 game. These light skin 6'4 shooting guards get me mixed up from time to time.j2j wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 7:10 pmWhich Affalo game; was it the 5/9 for 16pts that LaVine didn't suit up for or the 1/4 for 2pts that LaVine went off for 40 in?UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:38 pmI’ve seen Thibs bench Lolvine twice live in person in the 4th quarter because he was getting abused on defense trying to guard Aaron affalo and Gary Harris jr.KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:26 pm Fade most of the things in that article apply to Andrew Wiggins as well. He doesn’t fight screens, he doesn’t rotate properly, he’s lazy closing out on shooters. I mean you have to realize that.
Wigs has been playing out of position for the last two seasons at small forward. Doesn’t have the strength to guard those guys.
Keep him at SG and watch him turn another level up.
