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Woj Bomb! Teague/Graham gone

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I am for this trade. Hopefully something better is coming down the pipe.
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j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm Lot of people claiming more moves are definitely coming... So could be a fun next couple weeks.
Buddy Hield just ripped the Sacramento fans. That can't be good. Wiggins/Hield. Let's play.

Or, roofie Vlade and get Fox. Let's get Fox.
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Style wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm Lot of people claiming more moves are definitely coming... So could be a fun next couple weeks.
Buddy Hield just ripped the Sacramento fans. That can't be good. Wiggins/Hield. Let's play.

Or, roofie Vlade and get Fox. Let's get Fox.
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digitalwolf wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:28 pm
irishman89 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm Crabbe won't ever suit up here. He's barely played in 2 years due to having one trashed knee. Trashed.

Get ready for DSJ or Aaron Holiday with Wiggins and Covington both gone along the way...my prediction. Rosas knows now moving Wiggins and Teague are the key to keeping Kat happy and building around him for real. I think Kat has personal issues with Teague.
How are we shedding nearly 50 million in cap space and winding up with Smith or Holiday? :lol:

Are you suggesting a Morris/Portis/DSJ for Wiggins and Okogie?! And what does Covington get moved for if we cleared out the main wing guy we have, at that point you'd keep him and push him down to SF where his shooting and defense have a little more shine.
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Style wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm Lot of people claiming more moves are definitely coming... So could be a fun next couple weeks.
Buddy Hield just ripped the Sacramento fans. That can't be good. Wiggins/Hield. Let's play.

Or, roofie Vlade and get Fox. Let's get Fox.
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Dan33185 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Style wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm Lot of people claiming more moves are definitely coming... So could be a fun next couple weeks.
Buddy Hield just ripped the Sacramento fans. That can't be good. Wiggins/Hield. Let's play.

Or, roofie Vlade and get Fox. Let's get Fox.
:shrug:

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I wouldnt do that deal. Barnes sucks and fox has been injured alot.
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Seenin wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:07 pm I wouldnt do that deal. Barnes sucks and fox has been injured alot.
I would take fox. I love it when parents take a name, and then just throw a “de” or “la” in front of it!
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YBBR wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:27 am Seems like a giant wash. Teague and Graham gone is good. I have zero interest in Allen Crabbe. Especually at a position we have a glut of bodies. It's a minor move at best. You probably need to bring in another ball handler now.
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FOUR pages on this? WOW, you hoops fans love your Wolves!!
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Hornets wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 pm FOUR pages on this? WOW, you hoops fans love your Wolves!!
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witljon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:16 pm
Hornets wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 pm FOUR pages on this? WOW, you hoops fans love your Wolves!!
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Wonder how many pages if Wiggy gets moved?!
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Hornets wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 pm FOUR pages on this? WOW, you hoops fans love your Wolves!!
Well, we kind of been starving around here for ANY kind of change.
At least we are not talking about the 2020 draft....Yet.
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Shams talking about how this is a precursor for a DLO trade.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:18 pm
Hornets wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 pm FOUR pages on this? WOW, you hoops fans love your Wolves!!
Well, we kind of been starving around here for ANY kind of change.
At least we are not talking about the 2020 draft....Yet.
I agree....the status quo is no good and Rosas needs to move and shake!
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Bob Wiley wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:05 pm
Dan33185 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Style wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm

Buddy Hield just ripped the Sacramento fans. That can't be good. Wiggins/Hield. Let's play.

Or, roofie Vlade and get Fox. Let's get Fox.
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Yeah, pretty ridiculous, but I'd still take him at 24 than Wiggins at 27
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Sac loves Fox. No way they trade him.
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OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
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Teague is gone?


Good.
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T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 pm
OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
I personally think Covington, Dieng, and this year's first more than fair for DLO
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OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 pm
T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 pm
OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
I personally think Covington, Dieng, and this year's first more than fair for DLO
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winforlose wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:30 pm
OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 pm
T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 pm

Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
I personally think Covington, Dieng, and this year's first more than fair for DLO
Protected?
You'd have to. I'm not passing up a lottery pick without knowing where it lands.

The Wolves lottery luck would be that they trade the pick without protection, then it finally hits to move up.
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OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:29 pm
T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 pm
OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
I personally think Covington, Dieng, and this year's first more than fair for DLO
Probably what it would have to be for them to do it, but I don't like it.
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I don't like adding the first and would just wait until draft night or the offseason to reassess the whole league situation.
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T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 pm
OliverMiller wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Aside from a 3 way deal...isn't the only way to do Cov + Gorgui?

Cov makes sense as has been noted 1000x. Gorgui makes sense in that he can play for them, but is also expiring right before 2021 FA which supposedly everyone is clearing space for.
I've said this for a few weeks now...when KAT went down, Dieng has played himself into a tradeable asset. His contract isn't so terrible each month that passes by, he's played well when called upon and GS is severely lacking in competent bigs. Covington is the main piece, but a base package around Cov and Dieng make a lot of sense for GS. They will have a top 3 pick to add to a starting lineup of:
Curry
Thompson
Roco
Green
Dieng

The question is, what young pieces are they wanting. Culver won't be in play....but is our protected first involved, do they like Oke, Diop or Naz?
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T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm I don't like adding the first and would just wait until draft night or the offseason to reassess the whole league situation.
Part of my thinking. In a "normal" year the GSW would allow us to swap picks, not this year. So having leverage to recoup value won't not exist if we wait, taking away the point really, but I don't like sending out a pick to a team when we are making them better. If I were looking at something I might offer a 2022 pick swap. It keeps us in the draft a flyer might fall to the back half, GS might have a chance at a higher pick in the double draft. That and probably a 2nd.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:38 pm
T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm I don't like adding the first and would just wait until draft night or the offseason to reassess the whole league situation.
Part of my thinking. In a "normal" year the GSW would allow us to swap picks, not this year. So having leverage to recoup value won't not exist if we wait, taking away the point really, but I don't like sending out a pick to a team when we are making them better. If I were looking at something I might offer a 2022 pick swap. It keeps us in the draft a flyer might fall to the back half, GS might have a chance at a higher pick in the double draft. That and probably a 2nd.
This is the wise play....something else will have to be added, whether it's a protected pick or a guy like Okogie....but giving the pick next year flat outright is too much given both teams situations.
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From the top of Aspen mountain, this pleases me.
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digitalwolf wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:43 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:38 pm
T_J wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm I don't like adding the first and would just wait until draft night or the offseason to reassess the whole league situation.
Part of my thinking. In a "normal" year the GSW would allow us to swap picks, not this year. So having leverage to recoup value won't not exist if we wait, taking away the point really, but I don't like sending out a pick to a team when we are making them better. If I were looking at something I might offer a 2022 pick swap. It keeps us in the draft a flyer might fall to the back half, GS might have a chance at a higher pick in the double draft. That and probably a 2nd.
This is the wise play....something else will have to be added, whether it's a protected pick or a guy like Okogie....but giving the pick next year flat outright is too much given both teams situations.
I don't know that it will be much more as far as players go than Covington and Dieng for Russell and Evans. The Warriors are hard capped and a deal including Okogie might be hard. But I have not done the math on it so I could be wrong.

CHECKED. You can add Okogie and Robinson to the deal and it seems to work.
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