Woj Bomb! Teague/Graham gone

[winforlose]

He is leaving. We just traded a huge expiring asset for salary relief.

Who's leaving? Every contract in this deal expires at the end of the year, so there really isn't salary relief.

You save paying out Graham’s contract. Granted you use the money to sign Martin. My point is they could have waived Graham, signed Martin and had a more valuable trade piece in Teague expiring than Martin expiring. Good teams looking to get deeper for a playoff run would offer more for Teague than Crabbe. It’s like trading a steak for a salad. Both are gone after you eat them, but the steak is more valuable. I wanted Teague gone too, I just wanted something more useful back. Crabbe’s bird rights aren’t that helpful unless you plan to move him again or try to sign him cheap.

[mglviks]

Hopefully just the prelude to whats next.

More wings yeaaaa

[SO_MONEY]

Lot of people claiming more moves are definitely coming... So could be a fun next couple weeks.

One would think, not sure they have info or are making an educated guess...but where there is smoke.

[jodaman01]

Or sign Kelan Martin as someone mentioned

Martin is fucking garbage as well.

Settle down, spaz.

You got me.

[populousample]

Crabbe = Brooklyn connection with “Peroni”

[j2j]

He is leaving. We just traded a huge expiring asset for salary relief.

Who's leaving? Every contract in this deal expires at the end of the year, so there really isn't salary relief.

You save paying out Graham’s contract. Granted you use the money to sign Martin. My point is they could have waived Graham, signed Martin and had a more valuable trade piece in Teague expiring than Martin expiring. Good teams looking to get deeper for a playoff run would offer more for Teague than Crabbe. It’s like trading a steak for a salad. Both are gone after you eat them, but the steak is more valuable. I wanted Teague gone too, I just wanted something more useful back. Crabbe’s bird rights aren’t that helpful unless you plan to move him again or try to sign him cheap.

I'd suspect the potential suitors for Jeff Teague are few and far between.

[SHAFA]

I wanted Teague gone too, I just wanted something more useful back.

That's kinda the thing though, isn't it? Fans tend to overvalue their own roster. It's entirely possible that, after 2.5 years of uneven and uninspiring play, his market wasn't actually worth a whole hell of a lot, even as an expiring.

[SO_MONEY]

He is leaving. We just traded a huge expiring asset for salary relief.

Who's leaving? Every contract in this deal expires at the end of the year, so there really isn't salary relief.

You save paying out Graham’s contract. Granted you use the money to sign Martin. My point is they could have waived Graham, signed Martin and had a more valuable trade piece in Teague expiring than Martin expiring. Good teams looking to get deeper for a playoff run would offer more for Teague than Crabbe. It’s like trading a steak for a salad. Both are gone after you eat them, but the steak is more valuable. I wanted Teague gone too, I just wanted something more useful back. Crabbe’s bird rights aren’t that helpful unless you plan to move him again or try to sign him cheap.

What did you expect for an expiring in a year no one really wants space? Just saying.

I sure hope that open spot doesn't go to Martin unless it is after the deadline.

[jodaman01]

Hopefully just the prelude to whats next.

More wings yeaaaa

Pass the WINGS!!!

[Mplsfonz]

Really addtion by subtraction and looks like we probably aren't done. I just hope RoCo isn't next.

Before the season, I thought we might move him. Now I think we won't unless it's a 1st round pick.

I think we'll make a small move for another ball handler and see what the squad looks like with a poor man's version of its future.

Napier/Ball handler X
Crabbe
Wiggins (barf)
Cov
Towns

I bet they wanna see how this looks with some guys who can actually shoot from 3 while Wiggins and Towns do the playmaking.

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

[Rusty Kuntz]

At least we won't have to watch Graham get meaningless starts

[digitalwolf]

Granted,
Everyone is expiring, so it's not impactful long term....but the fact that I don't have to watch Graham play anymore at all is def worth it. Crabbe is having a down shooting year, but he's absolutely proven he's a good shooter. Surely he'll get a little run to prove himself, but I still wonder what we're doing Roco wise. He's a main piece that's going to land a PG.

[jffl_commish]

He is leaving. We just traded a huge expiring asset for salary relief.

Who's leaving? Every contract in this deal expires at the end of the year, so there really isn't salary relief.

You save paying out Graham’s contract. Granted you use the money to sign Martin. My point is they could have waived Graham, signed Martin and had a more valuable trade piece in Teague expiring than Martin expiring. Good teams looking to get deeper for a playoff run would offer more for Teague than Crabbe. It’s like trading a steak for a salad. Both are gone after you eat them, but the steak is more valuable. I wanted Teague gone too, I just wanted something more useful back. Crabbe’s bird rights aren’t that helpful unless you plan to move him again or try to sign him cheap.

You are greatly overstating Teague's value.

[jffl_commish]

Granted,
Everyone is expiring, so it's not impactful long term....but the fact that I don't have to watch Graham play anymore at all is def worth it. Crabbe is having a down shooting year, but he's absolutely proven he's a good shooter. Surely he'll get a little run to prove himself, but I still wonder what we're doing Roco wise. He's a main piece that's going to land a PG.

Wiggins will land the PG. Ok, maybe that's wishful thinking.

[SHAFA]

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

Crabbe will totally play. Who else are they gonna start at the 4 once they deal Cov?

[SO_MONEY]

Another takeaway from this deal is or FO can keep things quiet.

[winforlose]

His 3 point shooting is back, his assist rate is up, and for a playoff team going to make a serious run he is a good 2nd/3rd option. I am not saying he is worth a first, but maybe a 2nd and a decent backup. Also worth noting that as a package player with Roco he could have been more enticing than Crabbe/Roco package.

[T_J]

Really addtion by subtraction and looks like we probably aren't done. I just hope RoCo isn't next.

Before the season, I thought we might move him. Now I think we won't unless it's a 1st round pick.

I think we'll make a small move for another ball handler and see what the squad looks like with a poor man's version of its future.

Napier/Ball handler X
Crabbe
Wiggins (barf)
Cov
Towns

I bet they wanna see how this looks with some guys who can actually shoot from 3 while Wiggins and Towns do the playmaking.

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

Well sure, put Culver in the starting lineup in place of Wiggins or if this a lineup down the stretch, put him in for Wiggins then.

My only point being I imagine they want to see how having Cov, Towns, and Crabbe as capable shooting opens up the court more so than Graham, Okogie, etc.

Sort of a test run for how they'd like the team to look in the future.

[jodaman01]

At least we won't have to watch Graham get meaningless starts

What was the purpose of that??

Does anybody know if Rosas has a history of head injuries?

[thinktank]

At least we won't have to watch Graham get meaningless starts

What was the purpose of that??

Does anybody know if Rosas has a history of head injuries?

Graham wasn’t good but he played within the system.

The purpose was to show the younger guys that if you bust your ass within the system, then you’ll get minutes.

[irishman89]

I love that we got rid of the two worst players on the team to watch play. More to come....should be interesting.

[digitalwolf]

Granted,
Everyone is expiring, so it's not impactful long term....but the fact that I don't have to watch Graham play anymore at all is def worth it. Crabbe is having a down shooting year, but he's absolutely proven he's a good shooter. Surely he'll get a little run to prove himself, but I still wonder what we're doing Roco wise. He's a main piece that's going to land a PG.

Wiggins will land the PG. Ok, maybe that's wishful thinking.

Well in terms of what kind of PG, sure, it's possible. If our play is a guy like DSjr....we can't really give up much for him because he's played so poorly there, the most you could give up is a guy like Okogie, and even he's playing better basketball then DSjr. I think a package of Roco and Dieng for Dlo and change is still a possibility. Dieng has played well enough to warrant some trade chatter, as he's got less than two years on his deal...and Roco has value league wide, but specifically to contenders, which GS will be next year. Naturally, it didn't need to be reported we're going to go after a PG, whether it's now or around draft day, but Wiggins could probably only be in play if we were taking on a silly contract like Westy or CP3. Not saying Wiggins nets those guys, he'd have to be involved salary wise.

[Mplsfonz]

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

Crabbe will totally play. Who else are they gonna start at the 4 once they deal Cov?

I think Crabbe WILL play, just not start over Culver. They are going to force feed minutes down his throat trying to get him ready for next year.
I do hope they move Cov, but not just to trade him. He should ....should bring back a lot more than JT did. I think they are trying to clear out contracts so we can make moves in the next year or two before Towns get frustrated. I would rather move Dieng than Cov. But given RoCo's injury history, he needs to be moved first. (Unless we can dump Wiggins somewhere.)

[irishman89]

Crabbe won't ever suit up here. He's barely played in 2 years due to having one trashed knee. Trashed.

Get ready for DSJ or Aaron Holiday with Wiggins and Covington both gone along the way...my prediction. Rosas knows now moving Wiggins and Teague are the key to keeping Kat happy and building around him for real. I think Kat has personal issues with Teague.

[SO_MONEY]

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

Crabbe will totally play. Who else are they gonna start at the 4 once they deal Cov?

I think Crabbe WILL play, just not start over Culver. They are going to force feed minutes down his throat trying to get him ready for next year.
I do hope they move Cov, but not just to trade him. He should ....should bring back a lot more than JT did. I think they are trying to clear out contracts so we can make moves in the next year or two before Towns get frustrated. I would rather move Dieng than Cov. But given RoCo's injury history, he needs to be moved first. (Unless we can dump Wiggins somewhere.)

I hope they don't play Crabbe. Play Nowell over him.

[SHAFA]

No way they sit Culver for Crabbe. I think they didn't have any takers, and just used this as a way to move Graham.
They were playing too many players, and I think this move just opens up minutes. Crabbe may not get to play right away until he learns the system.
Meh move overall.

Crabbe will totally play. Who else are they gonna start at the 4 once they deal Cov?

I think Crabbe WILL play, just not start over Culver. They are going to force feed minutes down his throat trying to get him ready for next year.
I do hope they move Cov, but not just to trade him. He should ....should bring back a lot more than JT did. I think they are trying to clear out contracts so we can make moves in the next year or two before Towns get frustrated. I would rather move Dieng than Cov. But given RoCo's injury history, he needs to be moved first. (Unless we can dump Wiggins somewhere.)

Sorry, my statement was just meant as a joke about our trend of starting someone undersized at the position.

[T_J]

I'd like to add it kinda sucks this is the most exciting thing that's happened in about 2.5 months.

[digitalwolf]

Crabbe won't ever suit up here. He's barely played in 2 years due to having one trashed knee. Trashed.

Get ready for DSJ or Aaron Holiday with Wiggins and Covington both gone along the way...my prediction. Rosas knows now moving Wiggins and Teague are the key to keeping Kat happy and building around him for real. I think Kat has personal issues with Teague.

How are we shedding nearly 50 million in cap space and winding up with Smith or Holiday?

Are you suggesting a Morris/Portis/DSJ for Wiggins and Okogie?! And what does Covington get moved for if we cleared out the main wing guy we have, at that point you'd keep him and push him down to SF where his shooting and defense have a little more shine.

[Mplsfonz]

Sorry, my statement was just meant as a joke about our trend of starting someone undersized at the position.

[SO_MONEY]

Crabbe won't ever suit up here. He's barely played in 2 years due to having one trashed knee. Trashed.

Get ready for DSJ or Aaron Holiday with Wiggins and Covington both gone along the way...my prediction. Rosas knows now moving Wiggins and Teague are the key to keeping Kat happy and building around him for real. I think Kat has personal issues with Teague.

How are we shedding nearly 50 million in cap space and winding up with Smith or Holiday?

Are you suggesting a Morris/Portis/DSJ for Wiggins and Okogie?! And what does Covington get moved for if we cleared out the main wing guy we have, at that point you'd keep him and push him down to SF where his shooting and defense have a little more shine.

Wiggins in NY? Yes please! Comedy gold.