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2023-24 Season Thread

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Meh.

I just don’t see how the Gophers football or basketball programs will ever be of much relevance again. I hope i’m wrong but the Gophers hoops haven’t made serious noise since the late 90’s and the football team has sucked forever except a few years back when they merely had a good season that some acted as if it was incredible.

Now with all this playing players shit, portals etc etc it just stacks the deck even further. Oh and let’s add in the even bigger problem that this team can’t compete with the likes of Wisconsin and Iowa for Fs sake but now we are adding teams like Oregon, USC, UCLA etc to the Big Ten and I fail to see how these programs are ever not going to be at the bottom of the standings.

One of the only ways to semi combat this is getting the right ADs and HCs in. This is how teams like the Badgers have become solid programs over the last couple decades etc.. We don’t have that and the only time I think I’ve seen anything like that was with Haskins.
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Don’t care that much for Carrington or ola Joseph, but losing Payne is going to hurt a lot. He really came on this year. Ben’s job is on life support
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Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
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At least the Badgers are losing AJ Storr.
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Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Is the message to Ben or to the university?

Payne and JOJ both were pissed at different points they weren't starting.. lost both anyways. Carrington I am shocked he is transferring because of NIL. Oh well, if they don't want to be here then send them on their way. The one issue with Ben I would say now is if he doesn't have loyalty with the local kids, I'm not sure his hiring makes sense.
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HeHateMe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:01 pm
Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Is the message to Ben or to the university?

Payne and JOJ both were pissed at different points they weren't starting.. lost both anyways. Carrington I am shocked he is transferring because of NIL. Oh well, if they don't want to be here then send them on their way. The one issue with Ben I would say now is if he doesn't have loyalty with the local kids, I'm not sure his hiring makes sense.
That was supposed to be the big caveat with Ben....getting the local kids to stay in Minny. Not only is he losing them, remember that just recently the Star Trib all-metro teams did not include anyone who had committed to the Gophers. That is stunning to me.
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Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:43 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:01 pm
Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Is the message to Ben or to the university?

Payne and JOJ both were pissed at different points they weren't starting.. lost both anyways. Carrington I am shocked he is transferring because of NIL. Oh well, if they don't want to be here then send them on their way. The one issue with Ben I would say now is if he doesn't have loyalty with the local kids, I'm not sure his hiring makes sense.
That was supposed to be the big caveat with Ben....getting the local kids to stay in Minny. Not only is he losing them, remember that just recently the Star Trib all-metro teams did not include anyone who had committed to the Gophers. That is stunning to me.
I don't think he wanted any of the local kids except McAndrew who wasn't ever coming here... Asuma is the second best player in the state and he got him... If they don't make the tournament next year they need to move on. The business might be much more year to year and you need more proven coach with x's and o's if it's short term recruiting.
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HeHateMe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:55 pm
Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:43 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:01 pm

Is the message to Ben or to the university?

Payne and JOJ both were pissed at different points they weren't starting.. lost both anyways. Carrington I am shocked he is transferring because of NIL. Oh well, if they don't want to be here then send them on their way. The one issue with Ben I would say now is if he doesn't have loyalty with the local kids, I'm not sure his hiring makes sense.
That was supposed to be the big caveat with Ben....getting the local kids to stay in Minny. Not only is he losing them, remember that just recently the Star Trib all-metro teams did not include anyone who had committed to the Gophers. That is stunning to me.
I don't think he wanted any of the local kids except McAndrew who wasn't ever coming here... Asuma is the second best player in the state and he got him... If they don't make the tournament next year they need to move on. The business might be much more year to year and you need more proven coach with x's and o's if it's short term recruiting.
Will be interesting to see if Asuma now changes his mind with all the mass exodus or if he looks at it as an opportunity to be a starter on day 1.....and then of course he'd bolt after 1 year. :pissed:
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Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Hawkins has already said he’s staying
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Bob Wiley wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:48 pm
Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Hawkins has already said he’s staying
Yes, but that was before all those other guys bolted....
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Mike Mitchell Jr. is returning. :thumbsup:
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Bob Wiley wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:48 pm
Hornets wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:37 am Expect the exodus now to include Hawkins and Garcia and Christie...oh, and this also guarantees Fox won't be back. Kids sending a message that Ben Johnson ain't all that I guess.
Hawkins has already said he’s staying
Betts is back.
Mitchell's dad says he is back.

None of the other players have said anything yet. Rumor is Fox is leaning towards coming back.
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Eroder wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm That settles it. Hoop is right!
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Gotta admit I thought Dawson was gone but it's great news that he'll be back!
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Now we need Christie comin back!
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Coyle is a clown:
“Yeah [this tournament] has had good games to see and it’s amazing… I get mad, to be honest with you, because I [want the Gophers] to be there, as an AD. If you could see the text messages to my wife… You know, that there’s no reason why we can’t do it at Minnesota. Somehow we’ve gotta pop through and get in there. I love that competition, and the pressure, and I’m absolutely confident our kids would love that, and that’s our goal, to get there and experience that pressure.”
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Hoop Dreams wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:54 pm Coyle is a clown:
“Yeah [this tournament] has had good games to see and it’s amazing… I get mad, to be honest with you, because I [want the Gophers] to be there, as an AD. If you could see the text messages to my wife… You know, that there’s no reason why we can’t do it at Minnesota. Somehow we’ve gotta pop through and get in there. I love that competition, and the pressure, and I’m absolutely confident our kids would love that, and that’s our goal, to get there and experience that pressure.”
What did he say that was clownish?
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Dan33185 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:13 pm
Hoop Dreams wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:54 pm Coyle is a clown:
“Yeah [this tournament] has had good games to see and it’s amazing… I get mad, to be honest with you, because I [want the Gophers] to be there, as an AD. If you could see the text messages to my wife… You know, that there’s no reason why we can’t do it at Minnesota. Somehow we’ve gotta pop through and get in there. I love that competition, and the pressure, and I’m absolutely confident our kids would love that, and that’s our goal, to get there and experience that pressure.”
What did he say that was clownish?
It's "clownish" because a lot of the failure of the basketball program rests on his shoulders. From the bargain bin head coach he hired to the minimal progress he has made in the NIL world.

"Somehow we’ve gotta pop through and get in there."

Give me a break.
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The Big Ten is not exactly the place for a collegiate coach to undergo on-the-job training. Empty Suit Mark Coyle hired not one, BUT TWO! head basketball coaches with zero relevant head coaching experience.
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Ben would not have gotten hired three years ago if the current rules on transferring/NIL situation existed.
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The women's program made pretty solid progress in 1 season. Ben has 1 more chance to prove himself.
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Eroder wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm That settles it. Hoop is right!
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Parker Fox is coming back!
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I'd be surprised if Christie gets enough good feedback to leave. He's got the tools, but he's still a long way off.
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Hoop Dreams wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:25 pm Parker Fox is coming back!
Oooo change of heart?? I thought he was gone.
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Eroder wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm That settles it. Hoop is right!
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It's official, official :clap:

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Joshua Ola-Joseph to Cal.
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