KOC And Kwesi -- "not joined at the hip"

[Beef Supreme]

It’s just a rumor, but why the hell would you extend him? I’m not saying fire him, but what has he done to earn an early extension?

[mlhouse]

It’s just a rumor, but why the hell would you extend him? I’m not saying fire him, but what has he done to earn an early extension?

The "normal" time to extend him would be after the 2024 season if that is the course they want to follow.

[hategreenticemase]

It’s just a rumor, but why the hell would you extend him? I’m not saying fire him, but what has he done to earn an early extension?

I guess it would be slightly odd to do something at this point rather than wait till after the 2024 season. Like you said, not sure what the reasoning would be.

Mostly I'm just against Kwesi being involved in any major decisions, but not much way to avoid that till he is run out of here.

[salamander]

It’s just a rumor, but why the hell would you extend him? I’m not saying fire him, but what has he done to earn an early extension?

Yeah, that's a little odd. I feel like I'd wait until after next year to extent him.

[weimy froob]

it looks like a little birdie told uncle charlie the obvious.

Charley Walters: Futures of Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Kevin O’Connell hinge on picking right quarterback

As for the futures of Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and coach Kevin O’Connell, it’s probably in their best interest to trade up for a premier quarterback in next month’s NFL draft.

The Vikings have the Nos. 11 and 23 overall picks in the draft. It’s become obvious they plan to use those picks to move up to get a top QB. It’s also obvious they’re targeting either of picks Nos. 3, 4 or 5 to get either Drake Maye from North Carolina or J.J. McCarthy from Michigan. To get up to No. 3, though, the Vikings might also have to include their first-round draft pick in 2025.

It’s probable that the Bears will take Caleb Williams from USC or Jayden Daniels from LSU with the No. 1 pick, and that Washington will take whomever the Bears don’t take with the No. 2 pick. The Patriots have the No. 3 pick, the Cardinals No. 4 and the Chargers No. 5.

Williams and Daniels are out of reach for the Vikings.

>> McCarthy last week had dinner with the Giants’ front office and toured the team’s facilities, per Bleacher Report, and was to meet with Washington officials in Ann Arbor, Mich. Washington has the No. 2 pick in the draft, the Giants No. 6.

>> Adofo-Mensah and O’Connell probably can buy themselves more time in Minnesota if they can get the right QB in the draft. If not, it’s probably bad news for them after next season, which will be their third with the Vikings. Both have four-year contracts.

The way it looks now, with the recent departures of Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter, the only way next season becomes truly meaningful is if the Vikings can get their quarterback of the future in the draft and if he shows promise when he gets a chance to play. The Vikings’ goal for next season has to be to build around a young QB and prepare for 2025.

The Vikings are not going to build around Sam Darnold, 26, the $10 million QB they signed as a one-year bridge for 2024. Darnold will start the season with hopes the rookie can replace him at some point.

[Small Hands]

it looks like a little birdie told uncle charlie the obvious.

Charley Walters: Futures of Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Kevin O’Connell hinge on picking right quarterback

As for the futures of Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and coach Kevin O’Connell, it’s probably in their best interest to trade up for a premier quarterback in next month’s NFL draft.

The Vikings have the Nos. 11 and 23 overall picks in the draft. It’s become obvious they plan to use those picks to move up to get a top QB. It’s also obvious they’re targeting either of picks Nos. 3, 4 or 5 to get either Drake Maye from North Carolina or J.J. McCarthy from Michigan. To get up to No. 3, though, the Vikings might also have to include their first-round draft pick in 2025.

It’s probable that the Bears will take Caleb Williams from USC or Jayden Daniels from LSU with the No. 1 pick, and that Washington will take whomever the Bears don’t take with the No. 2 pick. The Patriots have the No. 3 pick, the Cardinals No. 4 and the Chargers No. 5.

Williams and Daniels are out of reach for the Vikings.

>> McCarthy last week had dinner with the Giants’ front office and toured the team’s facilities, per Bleacher Report, and was to meet with Washington officials in Ann Arbor, Mich. Washington has the No. 2 pick in the draft, the Giants No. 6.

>> Adofo-Mensah and O’Connell probably can buy themselves more time in Minnesota if they can get the right QB in the draft. If not, it’s probably bad news for them after next season, which will be their third with the Vikings. Both have four-year contracts.

The way it looks now, with the recent departures of Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter, the only way next season becomes truly meaningful is if the Vikings can get their quarterback of the future in the draft and if he shows promise when he gets a chance to play. The Vikings’ goal for next season has to be to build around a young QB and prepare for 2025.

The Vikings are not going to build around Sam Darnold, 26, the $10 million QB they signed as a one-year bridge for 2024. Darnold will start the season with hopes the rookie can replace him at some point.

I honestly have no clue how that guy still has a column. He must have some damaging photos.

[hategreenticemase]

it looks like a little birdie told uncle charlie the obvious.

Charley Walters: Futures of Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Kevin O’Connell hinge on picking right quarterback

As for the futures of Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and coach Kevin O’Connell, it’s probably in their best interest to trade up for a premier quarterback in next month’s NFL draft.

The Vikings have the Nos. 11 and 23 overall picks in the draft. It’s become obvious they plan to use those picks to move up to get a top QB. It’s also obvious they’re targeting either of picks Nos. 3, 4 or 5 to get either Drake Maye from North Carolina or J.J. McCarthy from Michigan. To get up to No. 3, though, the Vikings might also have to include their first-round draft pick in 2025.

It’s probable that the Bears will take Caleb Williams from USC or Jayden Daniels from LSU with the No. 1 pick, and that Washington will take whomever the Bears don’t take with the No. 2 pick. The Patriots have the No. 3 pick, the Cardinals No. 4 and the Chargers No. 5.

Williams and Daniels are out of reach for the Vikings.

>> McCarthy last week had dinner with the Giants’ front office and toured the team’s facilities, per Bleacher Report, and was to meet with Washington officials in Ann Arbor, Mich. Washington has the No. 2 pick in the draft, the Giants No. 6.

>> Adofo-Mensah and O’Connell probably can buy themselves more time in Minnesota if they can get the right QB in the draft. If not, it’s probably bad news for them after next season, which will be their third with the Vikings. Both have four-year contracts.

The way it looks now, with the recent departures of Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter, the only way next season becomes truly meaningful is if the Vikings can get their quarterback of the future in the draft and if he shows promise when he gets a chance to play. The Vikings’ goal for next season has to be to build around a young QB and prepare for 2025.

The Vikings are not going to build around Sam Darnold, 26, the $10 million QB they signed as a one-year bridge for 2024. Darnold will start the season with hopes the rookie can replace him at some point.

I honestly have no clue how that guy still has a column. He must have some damaging photos.

This. The only way he could get ahead of Sid was to outlive him.

[Head Coach]

I've never had a major issue with any of Kwesi's trades or signings.

He seems like he has some well thought out (albeit unconventional) ideas but whether it's himself or his brass that are failing him with bad scouting reports.

Like 2022 was awful, Ingram and Chandler are the best of the bunch which is downright awful having 4 picks in top 66. Hamilton should have been the play.

2023 hit on their first 2 picks but it was sort of weird trading a 2nd rounder and then breaking the bank for a guy when it was such a strong TE class. Lions obviously got the better end.

2024 will be defined by the QB. If it's not a big hit it's time to move on, especially if it's a big trade up into the top 5. Kwesi is a nice and clever guy but unless you have the right guy in your corner, all that analytics is useless.

[mlhouse]

I've never had a major issue with any of Kwesi's trades or signings.

He seems like he has some well thought out (albeit unconventional) ideas but whether it's himself or his brass that are failing him with bad scouting reports.

Like 2022 was awful, Ingram and Chandler are the best of the bunch which is downright awful having 4 picks in top 66. Hamilton should have been the play.

2023 hit on their first 2 picks but it was sort of weird trading a 2nd rounder and then breaking the bank for a guy when it was such a strong TE class. Lions obviously got the better end.

2024 will be defined by the QB. If it's not a big hit it's time to move on, especially if it's a big trade up into the top 5. Kwesi is a nice and clever guy but unless you have the right guy in your corner, all that analytics is useless.

The value that the Vikings got in 2022 from Hockenson was worth the trade value. The trade was draft pick swaps, with the VIkings trading a 2nd and a 3rd for Hockenson and two 4ths.

Also note, the pick the Lions used for LaPorta was not the Vikings 2nd round which was much later in the 2nd round of the 2023 draft. The 2nd round the VIkings traded to the Lions eventually yielded the Lions Hendon Hooker. The Lions made several trades involving the Vikings pick which netted

Pick 68 Hendon Hooker
Pick 96 Brodrick Martin
Pick 249

After kicking in three other picks to these deals #168, #183, and #194.

[mlhouse]

P.S. On the LIons picks with our selections: Hooker did not play a single game in 2023. Martin played in 3, 28 total snaps.