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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/2 ... th-Pistons
The Detroit Pistons signed Michael Beasley to a one-year deal, league sources told Shams Charania of The Athletic.

Beasley is set to serve a five-game suspension for violating the league's anti-drug policy.

Beasley averaged 7 points in 26 games for the Lakers last season.
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Beas got that for doing stuff when his mom was dying of cancer a while ago...he just hasn't been around to do the time. Feels harsh for extenuating circumstance but I get it.
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Catalyst wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:32 pm Beas got that for doing stuff when his mom was dying of cancer a while ago...he just hasn't been around to do the time. Feels harsh for extenuating circumstance but I get it.
Yikes, that's rough. Beasley seems like a good and cool person at heart. I always enjoyed and liked his personality. He's a bit absent minded when it comes to the drugs however.
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YBBR wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:30 pm
Catalyst wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:32 pm Beas got that for doing stuff when his mom was dying of cancer a while ago...he just hasn't been around to do the time. Feels harsh for extenuating circumstance but I get it.
Yikes, that's rough. Beasley seems like a good and cool person at heart. I always enjoyed and liked his personality. He's a bit absent minded when it comes to the drugs however.
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The Oklahoma City Thunder has signed center Justin Patton to a contract.
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irishman89 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm The Oklahoma City Thunder has signed center Justin Patton to a contract.
i hope he stays healthy and does well.
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:24 pm
irishman89 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm The Oklahoma City Thunder has signed center Justin Patton to a contract.
i hope he stays healthy and does well.
Not too well.
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no, actually, REALLY well - because i've been barking for the last year that we should have picked him back up.

my guess is that he's not as good as i want him to be. but i thought it odd that we liked a guy so much to take him at 16 a short time ago, traded him to philly only to help make the butler exit work - then he gets cut from philly, a team ripe with developmental bigs, he sits for a long time unsigned - and meantime, until recently we had only two decent centers on the squad - and that includes iowa. but we didn't give him a call. it made no sense to me. felt like a chance to recoup some of the loss in the butler swap. if he didn't work out, meh - it was a low cost short term flier on a third string center. in and out. but if it did work out and he became the multi-skilled post player we thought we drafted just three years back - then hooray for the wolves, right?
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:59 pm no, actually, REALLY well - because i've been barking for the last year that we should have picked him back up.

my guess is that he's not as good as i want him to be. but i thought it odd that we liked a guy so much to take him at 16 a short time ago, traded him to philly only to help make the butler exit work - then he gets cut from philly, a team ripe with developmental bigs, he sits for a long time unsigned - and meantime, until recently we had only two decent centers on the squad - and that includes iowa. but we didn't give him a call. it made no sense to me. felt like a chance to recoup some of the loss in the butler swap. if he didn't work out, meh - it was a low cost short term flier on a third string center. in and out. but if it did work out and he became the multi-skilled post player we thought we drafted just three years back - then hooray for the wolves, right?
You know that was one of the moves I wanted this offseason too. As a player he is really good. Super talented big. Have to figure either we think he'll never be healthy or he has beef with us. Yeah we don't have many guys left from when we took him but Ryan is one of them.
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irishman89 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm The Oklahoma City Thunder has signed center Justin Patton to a contract.
Bound to thrive. :evil:
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mglviks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:48 pm
irishman89 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm The Oklahoma City Thunder has signed center Justin Patton to a contract.
Bound to thrive. :evil:
He will be great with Westbrook!

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He was good in Iowa.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:36 am
irishman89 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:12 am Shabazz Muhammad has signed with Shaan Xi Wolves of the Chinese NBL.
The Bucks waived Muhammad last October and he signed on with the Shanxi Brave Dragons in China. He averaged 29.7 points and 11.2 rebounds in China last season.
How many assists?
Hes the first Chinese league player in history whom never passed ever. The previous record holder for fewest passes was Michael Beasley with 10 and the only reason he passed the ball 10 times was because he remembered that 10 was the number of washable markers that Crayola used to put in their standard pack. No that doesn't make any sense, but it does if you are trying to explain how Michael Beasley thinks.
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bombers3shooter wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:08 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:36 am
irishman89 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:12 am Shabazz Muhammad has signed with Shaan Xi Wolves of the Chinese NBL.
The Bucks waived Muhammad last October and he signed on with the Shanxi Brave Dragons in China. He averaged 29.7 points and 11.2 rebounds in China last season.
How many assists?
Hes the first Chinese league player in history whom never passed ever. The previous record holder for fewest passes was Michael Beasley with 10 and the only reason he passed the ball 10 times was because he remembered that 10 was the number of washable markers that Crayola used to put in their standard pack. No that doesn't make any sense, but it does if you are trying to explain how Michael Beasley thinks.
I have to ask because this sounds too crazy to not be true, but of that true?
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Thrillkill wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:31 am
somuchyummy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:59 pm no, actually, REALLY well - because i've been barking for the last year that we should have picked him back up.

my guess is that he's not as good as i want him to be. but i thought it odd that we liked a guy so much to take him at 16 a short time ago, traded him to philly only to help make the butler exit work - then he gets cut from philly, a team ripe with developmental bigs, he sits for a long time unsigned - and meantime, until recently we had only two decent centers on the squad - and that includes iowa. but we didn't give him a call. it made no sense to me. felt like a chance to recoup some of the loss in the butler swap. if he didn't work out, meh - it was a low cost short term flier on a third string center. in and out. but if it did work out and he became the multi-skilled post player we thought we drafted just three years back - then hooray for the wolves, right?
You know that was one of the moves I wanted this offseason too. As a player he is really good. Super talented big. Have to figure either we think he'll never be healthy or he has beef with us. Yeah we don't have many guys left from when we took him but Ryan is one of them.
I would have liked to kick the tires too, but lots of injuries and a different regime. I guess there was no interest.


Frankly, I doubt Patton ever becomes a player in the league. Too much developmental time lost to injury. And a big man with bad feet, probably not going to ever be healthy.

But again, I would have been happy to bring him in. Oh, well....
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Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:00 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:31 am
somuchyummy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:59 pm no, actually, REALLY well - because i've been barking for the last year that we should have picked him back up.

my guess is that he's not as good as i want him to be. but i thought it odd that we liked a guy so much to take him at 16 a short time ago, traded him to philly only to help make the butler exit work - then he gets cut from philly, a team ripe with developmental bigs, he sits for a long time unsigned - and meantime, until recently we had only two decent centers on the squad - and that includes iowa. but we didn't give him a call. it made no sense to me. felt like a chance to recoup some of the loss in the butler swap. if he didn't work out, meh - it was a low cost short term flier on a third string center. in and out. but if it did work out and he became the multi-skilled post player we thought we drafted just three years back - then hooray for the wolves, right?
You know that was one of the moves I wanted this offseason too. As a player he is really good. Super talented big. Have to figure either we think he'll never be healthy or he has beef with us. Yeah we don't have many guys left from when we took him but Ryan is one of them.
I would have liked to kick the tires too, but lots of injuries and a different regime. I guess there was no interest.


Frankly, I doubt Patton ever becomes a player in the league. Too much developmental time lost to injury. And a big man with bad feet, probably not going to ever be healthy.

But again, I would have been happy to bring him in. Oh, well....
that "a different regime" statement grinds. there's way too much "if it's the old regime, it sucks" mentality going on. no, not every earlier idea was a bad idea. it's entirely possible to add some old with the new to get what you want. a lot of "new regimes" don't want to do that, because they're scared it makes them look weak. no, fuckers, it just means you're doing your homework.
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somuchyummy wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:25 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:00 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:31 am
You know that was one of the moves I wanted this offseason too. As a player he is really good. Super talented big. Have to figure either we think he'll never be healthy or he has beef with us. Yeah we don't have many guys left from when we took him but Ryan is one of them.
I would have liked to kick the tires too, but lots of injuries and a different regime. I guess there was no interest.


Frankly, I doubt Patton ever becomes a player in the league. Too much developmental time lost to injury. And a big man with bad feet, probably not going to ever be healthy.

But again, I would have been happy to bring him in. Oh, well....
that "a different regime" statement grinds. there's way too much "if it's the old regime, it sucks" mentality going on. no, not every earlier idea was a bad idea. it's entirely possible to add some old with the new to get what you want. a lot of "new regimes" don't want to do that, because they're scared it makes them look weak. no, fuckers, it just means you're doing your homework.
I'm just observing a reality. Rosas seems to want to build a roster with a lot of interchangeable parts and embrace "positionless" basketball. No idea if it'll work. It's a "for better or for worse" thing. Just my observation. If Thibs was still calling the shots, I wonder if he would have picked him back up.
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somuchyummy wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:25 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:00 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:31 am
You know that was one of the moves I wanted this offseason too. As a player he is really good. Super talented big. Have to figure either we think he'll never be healthy or he has beef with us. Yeah we don't have many guys left from when we took him but Ryan is one of them.
I would have liked to kick the tires too, but lots of injuries and a different regime. I guess there was no interest.


Frankly, I doubt Patton ever becomes a player in the league. Too much developmental time lost to injury. And a big man with bad feet, probably not going to ever be healthy.

But again, I would have been happy to bring him in. Oh, well....
that "a different regime" statement grinds. there's way too much "if it's the old regime, it sucks" mentality going on. no, not every earlier idea was a bad idea. it's entirely possible to add some old with the new to get what you want. a lot of "new regimes" don't want to do that, because they're scared it makes them look weak. no, fuckers, it just means you're doing your homework.
Yes it does “grind”.

It really sucked for me when Thibbs came in and and totally reversed the course that Flip seemed to set for the franchise. Flip wasn’t perfect and made a couple horrible moves....moving back for Bazz and Dieng when he should have just took CJ McCollum how had fallen into his lap, he also traded for that tub of crap from Michigan that Izzo pushed on him and people here had a crush on....I can’t even remember that dudes name and there is no reason to other than just knowing him as one of Flip’s mistakes. But Flip did a lot right and if he was still alive the I think we would be tracking more like the Bucks....others here disagree.

That point is though watching Thibbs methodically dismantle every piece of what Flip had done for what seemed like the only reason was because Flip had done it and he wanted no part in trying to coach those players or style of play that took advantage of them.

Yes Rosas is now going to do the same thing, this years Team is nothing more than a vehicle for him to asses some talant before he makes his team the following season. I don’t believe there is one player on this roster and that includes Towns that Rosas wouldn’t trade in the right deal. If you think it grinds now, just wait until this season’s trade deadline and next offseason - I wouldn’t be shocked to see Wiggins, Okogie, KBD, Covington, Dieng, Teague and every player Rosas picked up this offseason gone.

It sucks especially if you like any of the current roster, but it is what it is.
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Why wouldn't you trade anyone on the roster "in the right deal"?
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j2j wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:02 am Why wouldn't you trade anyone on the roster "in the right deal"?
Why invest time rooting for the players on the team if the Team doesn’t Really have any connection to them.

Just stop selling jerseys with players names on them or their #’s.
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jodaman01 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:32 pm
j2j wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:02 am Why wouldn't you trade anyone on the roster "in the right deal"?
Why invest time rooting for the players on the team if the Team doesn’t Really have any connection to them.

Just stop selling jerseys with players names on them or their #’s.
Those aren't two mutually exclusive concepts. You can have a connection with players and be willing to move players if the right deal comes along.

You wouldnt trade Towns for Giannis? No one is untouchable on the team. Some are obviously unlikely to move, but "in the right deal" everyone can be had.
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j2j wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:48 pm
jodaman01 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:32 pm
j2j wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:02 am Why wouldn't you trade anyone on the roster "in the right deal"?
Why invest time rooting for the players on the team if the Team doesn’t Really have any connection to them.

Just stop selling jerseys with players names on them or their #’s.
Those aren't two mutually exclusive concepts. You can have a connection with players and be willing to move players if the right deal comes along.

You wouldnt trade Towns for Giannis? No one is untouchable on the team. Some are obviously unlikely to move, but "in the right deal" everyone can be had.
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Boy I bet the Wolves could be the Bucks if they had taken Giannis also. What insightful analysis as usual. It sure must help to have arguably the best player in the league.
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but he sort of has a point. if the wolves had taken giannis, would we have known what to do with him? would he be the player he is today if he'd always been a twolf? i would wager no. on the scale of nba player ratings, KAT is waaaaay closer to giannis than nearly all the other players in the league - so we've had a fairly elite player on the team to build around for 4 years now - yet the bucks with giannis had the best record in the league last year and we with KAT continue to smell funny.
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somuchyummy wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:14 pm but he sort of has a point. if the wolves had taken giannis, would we have known what to do with him? would he be the player he is today if he'd always been a twolf? i would wager no. on the scale of nba player ratings, KAT is waaaaay closer to giannis than nearly all the other players in the league - so we've had a fairly elite player on the team to build around for 4 years now - yet the bucks with giannis had the best record in the league last year and we with KAT continue to smell funny.
I see your point, however there's a huge gap between Giannis and KAT. Giannis wasn't developed by some world class organization either. Two of his coaches have been fired and they've blown multiple 1st round draft picks since he's been there. He's a superstar because he'd have been a superstar anyway.

Troll mcTroll dumpass's argument is that the Wolves under Flip would have maxed LaVine, Wiggins, Towns, kept Rubio and now been Golden State-esque contender based on some win we had over them in April 2014 when they were gassed.
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T_J wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:56 am
somuchyummy wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:14 pm but he sort of has a point. if the wolves had taken giannis, would we have known what to do with him? would he be the player he is today if he'd always been a twolf? i would wager no. on the scale of nba player ratings, KAT is waaaaay closer to giannis than nearly all the other players in the league - so we've had a fairly elite player on the team to build around for 4 years now - yet the bucks with giannis had the best record in the league last year and we with KAT continue to smell funny.
I see your point, however there's a huge gap between Giannis and KAT. Giannis wasn't developed by some world class organization either. Two of his coaches have been fired and they've blown multiple 1st round draft picks since he's been there. He's a superstar because he'd have been a superstar anyway.

Troll mcTroll dumpass's argument is that the Wolves under Flip would have maxed LaVine, Wiggins, Towns, kept Rubio and now been Golden State-esque contender based on some win we had over them in April 2014 when they were gassed.
Troll mcTroll dumpass's...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: That’s good shit, even it’s dumpass is a spelling error - it kills me.

Anyway...

It would have rather had Kidd developing the Wolves roster and more importantly KAT than the Red Faced Gorilla/Overlord/Thibblodyte Svengali. Kidd developed Giannis as a PG and used him in ways that easily would have broke the brain of Thibbs and his cult-like followers.

It’s not a stretch to think he probably would have worked wonders with LaVine and Wiggins and been able to figure out how to use their skills as advantages when played together instead of handicapping them like Thibbs and having wet dreams about getting Butler in here to be his Himmler.

I’m thinking of getting a tattoo of some kind to show I survived that SOB. As for you (and others here) it still seems some deprogramming is needed.....it’s a slow process...but necessary...enjoy the journey.

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somuchyummy wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:14 pm but he sort of has a point. if the wolves had taken giannis, would we have known what to do with him? would he be the player he is today if he'd always been a twolf? i would wager no. on the scale of nba player ratings, KAT is waaaaay closer to giannis than nearly all the other players in the league - so we've had a fairly elite player on the team to build around for 4 years now - yet the bucks with giannis had the best record in the league last year and we with KAT continue to smell funny.
But why not? The Bucks were a disaster of a franchise until Bud came along this year. Jason Kidd sure as hell did no favors to Giannis' career.

The Bucks are also loaded with talent compared to the Wolves...like it isn't even close.
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Giannis playing for Thibs would have put up even bigger stats because he'd have played like 38-40 min per game. He's like a perfect Thibs player, a defensive savant and a one man offensive wrecking crew.
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T_J wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:13 am Giannis playing for Thibs would have put up even bigger stats because he'd have played like 38-40 min per game. He's like a perfect Thibs player, a defensive savant and a one man offensive wrecking crew.
I disagree. Thibbs would have traded a big chunk of the Bucks to get Butler. Thibbs was getting Butler no matter what team he went to, Butler would have dominated the young ones there as well and Thibbs would have brought in “his” players and made sure the players played his way.

It was his plan the minute he took the job here and it would have been his plan on any young team he would have took over. He should never have been given a GM job in the NBA.
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jodaman01 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:28 am
T_J wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:13 am Giannis playing for Thibs would have put up even bigger stats because he'd have played like 38-40 min per game. He's like a perfect Thibs player, a defensive savant and a one man offensive wrecking crew.
I disagree. Thibbs would have traded a big chunk of the Bucks to get Butler. Thibbs was getting Butler no matter what team he went to, Butler would have dominated the young ones there as well and Thibbs would have brought in “his” players and made sure the players played his way.

It was his plan the minute he took the job here and it would have been his plan on any young team he would have took over. He should never have been given a GM job in the NBA.
Jimmy + Giannis? So now two defensive studs and not to mention, Jimmy can close games since Giannis's weak spot is shooting?

Add in Jimmy went to Marquette and wow, he did a pretty good job building a fucking eastern contender for the next 5-7 years. Phenomenal job by your boy.
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