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**Official NBA Offseason Transactions/Rumors Thread**

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j2j wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:04 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:03 am
j2j wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:52 pm

There were rumors. I think the Warriors were pushing for it.

He'll likely sign on with a contender, he still has a little value left. What a story, so happy for him.
One of my favorite players, but might they just have waived/stretched him so they didn't have his full number count against the LUX in his retirement, I guess that is a possibility I am seeing.
Only $2mil of his contract was guaranteed.
Yes, and because they stretched him only $666,667 would count towards the LUX, vs. the full 2 million, which when you factor in deferred savings and the time value of money might be considerable for a team that spends in excess. I am just saying there are financial benefits to handling his retirement in this way, if that is what he wanted/wants to do.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:09 am
j2j wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:04 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:03 am

One of my favorite players, but might they just have waived/stretched him so they didn't have his full number count against the LUX in his retirement, I guess that is a possibility I am seeing.
Only $2mil of his contract was guaranteed.
Yes, and because they stretched him only $666,667 would count towards the LUX, vs. the full 2 million, which when you factor in deferred savings and the time value of money might be considerable for a team that spends in excess. I am just saying there are financial benefits to handling his retirement in this way, if that is what he wanted/wants to do.
I misread your post. Didn't realize they stretched him.
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Guerschon Yabusele time.
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irishman89 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:00 pm Guerschon Yabusele time.
Didn't he go mid first with Boston? For a savvy Boston FO, that was a big swing and miss if I'm thinking of the right guy. Cheap depth to see what's up, but he'll get a look somewhere if not here.
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irishman89 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:00 pm Guerschon Yabusele time.
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irishman89 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:00 pm Guerschon Yabusele time.
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I was looking on Spotrac and I was surprised that the WOlves only have the Room Exception, half the MLE available.
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:13 pm I was looking on Spotrac and I was surprised that the WOlves only have the Room Exception, half the MLE available.
I saw that too, but not sure it's accurate. I've heard elsewhere they have the full MLE left.
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Vonleh ate into the MLE, I believe.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:55 pm
witljon wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:18 pm The Warriors waived Shaun Livingston.

Should we be interested?
I thought he wanted to retire?
Why did they waive him if he's retiring?
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witljon wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:55 pm
witljon wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:18 pm The Warriors waived Shaun Livingston.

Should we be interested?
I thought he wanted to retire?
Why did they waive him if he's retiring?
Because his full salary would count against the cap for this year and the team pays a ton into the LUX. I covered the reasons/economics of it in a previous post.

That is not to say he will retire, it was just rumored he wanted to. After this happened it was also rumored he wanted to play. So we will see.
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irishman89 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:52 am Vonleh ate into the MLE, I believe.
He did, yes.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:43 am
witljon wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:55 pm

I thought he wanted to retire?
Why did they waive him if he's retiring?
Because his full salary would count against the cap for this year and the team pays a ton into the LUX. I covered the reasons/economics of it in a previous post.

That is not to say he will retire, it was just rumored he wanted to. After this happened it was also rumored he wanted to play. So we will see.
That don’t sound right. If he did retire I don’t think he would count against the cap.
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witljon wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:36 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:43 am
witljon wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 am

Why did they waive him if he's retiring?
Because his full salary would count against the cap for this year and the team pays a ton into the LUX. I covered the reasons/economics of it in a previous post.

That is not to say he will retire, it was just rumored he wanted to. After this happened it was also rumored he wanted to play. So we will see.
That don’t sound right. If he did retire I don’t think he would count against the cap.
Well he would. A medical retirement would be the only way that would not be the case, but he doesn't qualify. So, respectfully I don't care if you think it sounds right or not.

The real question is if his stretched salary counts beyond this year if he retires. That I don't know. My guess is it would.
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Anthony Bennett has made 16.5 million in his NBA career. What a life. Man I would just retire
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OliverMiller wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:42 pm Anthony Bennett has made 16.5 million in his NBA career. What a life. Man I would just retire
He had a solid year in the G last year. At least down the stretch.

He is so made for China though. He'd crush over there.
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OliverMiller wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:42 pm Anthony Bennett has made 16.5 million in his NBA career. What a life. Man I would just retire
It seems more seasons of service means much higher levels of NBA player monthly pension payments.
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i gotta hand it to him. i thought he'd be out of ball by now, just living off the initial contracts, buying a chain of donut shops up in canada, and taking it easy. at least he's still suiting up and giving it a shot.
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Time for a D-Will comeback
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Derrick Williams agrees to one-year deal with Turkish club Fenerbahçe.
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irishman89 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 am Derrick Williams agrees to one-year deal with Turkish club Fenerbahçe.
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irishman89 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 am Derrick Williams agrees to one-year deal with Turkish club Fenerbahçe.
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irishman89 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:13 am Derrick Williams agrees to one-year deal with Turkish club Fenerbahçe.
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T_J is reporting this transaction:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3axrsvm

Twolves Incoming - JR Smith (4.3m if waived today, 5.12m if waived by 7/31), Colin Sexton, Cedi Osman

Cavs Incoming - Andrew Wiggins, Lottery protected #1

The Wolves take advantage of Dan Gilbert being a moron and steal a 2nd year pg, a cheap sg, and move Wiggins long term money. It's a win-win move for the Wolves and a lose move for Cleveland, but they're dumb enough to do it.
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Cavs plan to waive JR Smith today.

If this happens, this is one of those low-key non-moves that should shake a front office. How they got no assets for that contract is bewildering.
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Southpaw23 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm Cavs plan to waive JR Smith today.

If this happens, this is one of those low-key non-moves that should shake a front office. How they got no assets for that contract is bewildering.
They even extended the date, and still did nothing.
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