Need to match up salaries too. Teague/Dieng/#10 for Hill/Holiday? They aren't taking Wiggins.T_J wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 1:03 pmHa you give it up for Jrue without question if it's 10-12ish. Jrue's in his prime and actually locked in for a few years.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 11:18 amHow do you get him without giving up the 2019 first?Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 11:13 am Jrue should be the target once Davis is shipped. No Conley, no Lowry.
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**Official NBA Offseason Transactions/Rumors Thread**
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As I watch Kawhi, I honestly don’t think he stays in Toronto, even if they do win a championship.
Think of it. If you’re Kawhi, you win a title you can leave on the best possible terms AND possibly go home to play with the Clippers.
If you lose, you can still leave for home, get paid and not be on as good of terms.
Win-win, in my opinion.
Not saying he leaves for sure, cuz I don’t now the future.
But I just don’t see him back in Toronto next season.
Think of it. If you’re Kawhi, you win a title you can leave on the best possible terms AND possibly go home to play with the Clippers.
If you lose, you can still leave for home, get paid and not be on as good of terms.
Win-win, in my opinion.
Not saying he leaves for sure, cuz I don’t now the future.
But I just don’t see him back in Toronto next season.
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I would like all 3 Holiday brothers together here. They'd fill all the voids.
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Jrue is a fine player & I agree that right now he is better than Conley or Lowry. But he is due 26M, 26M & 27M the next three years. Not good money management for a team already against the cap/lux tax.T_J wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 1:03 pmHa you give it up for Jrue without question if it's 10-12ish. Jrue's in his prime and actually locked in for a few years.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 11:18 amHow do you get him without giving up the 2019 first?Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 11:13 am Jrue should be the target once Davis is shipped. No Conley, no Lowry.
Another concern I have is that Jrue has only played in 70+ games two of the last 8 years.
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I like Mike Conley, liked him a lot more when he was younger.
I don’t want to see him in a Wolves uniform at all at this point.
I want a game with a fast flowing ball movement offense, I haven’t seen Conley in that type of system, he has been in a smash mouth grind system now for to long. I think he’s spent and I don’t want to waste a bunch of money knowing the best hope is potentially a little stability from Teague’s rollercoaster of misery.
Draft one of the PG’s, bench Teague and trade him ASAP next season. Let Tyus and the new kid they draft run the show from the beginning of training camp next season.
The only saving grace in all of this is that Lowry told Thibbs to go fuck himself, so Thibbs didn’t break the bank to get him. Jesus so many dopes were here begging for Lowry. SMH.
I don’t want to see him in a Wolves uniform at all at this point.
I want a game with a fast flowing ball movement offense, I haven’t seen Conley in that type of system, he has been in a smash mouth grind system now for to long. I think he’s spent and I don’t want to waste a bunch of money knowing the best hope is potentially a little stability from Teague’s rollercoaster of misery.
Draft one of the PG’s, bench Teague and trade him ASAP next season. Let Tyus and the new kid they draft run the show from the beginning of training camp next season.
The only saving grace in all of this is that Lowry told Thibbs to go fuck himself, so Thibbs didn’t break the bank to get him. Jesus so many dopes were here begging for Lowry. SMH.
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Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
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I would not. Injuries are too big of a concern for me.ChrisPaulGeorgeHill wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:12 am Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
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That and every question I've had about Kat's want to for the whole game is double for Embiid after the I don't feel good before every game and his childish press conference last night.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:16 amI would not. Injuries are too big of a concern for me.ChrisPaulGeorgeHill wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:12 am Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
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I wouldn't trade Kat for Embiid even if there were no injury concerns.ChrisPaulGeorgeHill wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:12 am Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
I am on record with saying I wouldn't mind flipping Kat for the right pieces. Embiid isn't one of them.
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If you were Philly would you do it?
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Agreed there. Embiid is super talented, but the injuries and the drama is just not worth it. I don't see him having a long career.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:22 amI wouldn't trade Kat for Embiid even if there were no injury concerns.ChrisPaulGeorgeHill wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:12 am Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
I am on record with saying I wouldn't mind flipping Kat for the right pieces. Embiid isn't one of them.
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I really don't think he is that great either.j2j wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:30 amAgreed there. Embiid is super talented, but the injuries and the drama is just not worth it. I don't see him having a long career.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:22 amI wouldn't trade Kat for Embiid even if there were no injury concerns.ChrisPaulGeorgeHill wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:12 am Watching First Take and Max is talking about how he would trade Embiid.
I don’t think there would be much of a chance of Philly doing it, but would you deal KAT for Embiid?
I would. Even knowing of Embiid’s injury concerns.
I am on record with saying I wouldn't mind flipping Kat for the right pieces. Embiid isn't one of them.
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Yep, super talented dominant big man one game from the ECF, trade him!!!! I know they need stuff to talk about but you'd never in a million years get proper return on a Joel trade. Really, really dumb. Towns lacks things Joel has but he's a more versatile offensive player and he's not such a little drama queen.
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Dominant big man? Maybe in today's game. He couldn't take over a slow, plodding Gasol. Can you imagine what a prime Shaq, Hakeem etc would have done?Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:35 am Yep, super talented dominant big man one game from the ECF, trade him!!!! I know they need stuff to talk about but you'd never in a million years get proper return on a Joel trade. Really, really dumb. Towns lacks things Joel has but he's a more versatile offensive player and he's not such a little drama queen.
Embiid is a good big man in a game with very few. Nothing special imo.
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Great take, compare him to 2 of the top 5 big men ever to play! The guy is 25 and hasn't hit his prime. You think he might figure some things out in the next couple years so he performs better in the playoffs maybe?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:37 amDominant big man? Maybe in today's game. He couldn't take over a slow, plodding Gasol. Can you imagine what a prime Shaq, Hakeem etc would have done?Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:35 am Yep, super talented dominant big man one game from the ECF, trade him!!!! I know they need stuff to talk about but you'd never in a million years get proper return on a Joel trade. Really, really dumb. Towns lacks things Joel has but he's a more versatile offensive player and he's not such a little drama queen.
Embiid is a good big man in a game with very few. Nothing special imo.
Gasol ain't what he used to be but he's still a former DPOY that knows how to play position and D up.
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I'm just saying the way Embiid is hyped, you would think he's in that league.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:42 amGreat take, compare him to 2 of the top 5 big men ever to play! The guy is 25 and hasn't hit his prime. You think he might figure some things out in the next couple years so he performs better in the playoffs maybe?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:37 amDominant big man? Maybe in today's game. He couldn't take over a slow, plodding Gasol. Can you imagine what a prime Shaq, Hakeem etc would have done?Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:35 am Yep, super talented dominant big man one game from the ECF, trade him!!!! I know they need stuff to talk about but you'd never in a million years get proper return on a Joel trade. Really, really dumb. Towns lacks things Joel has but he's a more versatile offensive player and he's not such a little drama queen.
Embiid is a good big man in a game with very few. Nothing special imo.
Gasol ain't what he used to be but he's still a former DPOY that knows how to play position and D up.
I know you like HOT TAKES but settle down Beavis.
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He's one of the best big men in the game today, I don't care where he sits historically nor does it matter as I don't think he's going to end up playing them.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:46 amI'm just saying the way Embiid is hyped, you would think he's in that league.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:42 amGreat take, compare him to 2 of the top 5 big men ever to play! The guy is 25 and hasn't hit his prime. You think he might figure some things out in the next couple years so he performs better in the playoffs maybe?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:37 am
Dominant big man? Maybe in today's game. He couldn't take over a slow, plodding Gasol. Can you imagine what a prime Shaq, Hakeem etc would have done?
Embiid is a good big man in a game with very few. Nothing special imo.
Gasol ain't what he used to be but he's still a former DPOY that knows how to play position and D up.
I know you like HOT TAKES but settle down Beavis.
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Every time I think of the PG Philly would look great with, I always think Jrue. Kind of ironic.
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At this post I’m saying no to almost any trade where we get older.
We’re not at that stage yet and we just came from there.
It’s funny, but I want us to follow the Kong’s route.
Get a bunch of good talented young players and see who pans out.
We’ve already got the most important part figured out (KAT).
Don’t fuck it up by getting old too fast and peaking too quickly due to old age.
We’re not at that stage yet and we just came from there.
It’s funny, but I want us to follow the Kong’s route.
Get a bunch of good talented young players and see who pans out.
We’ve already got the most important part figured out (KAT).
Don’t fuck it up by getting old too fast and peaking too quickly due to old age.
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Not so certain they wouldn’t take him and his salary if they could get another asset (or 2 or 3) to building around. It looks like their cupboards are bare when AD leaves and there is little upside in paying and keeping Jrue. They do have to spend up to a minimum correct?
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Every team is supposed to spend up to like 90% of the cap but if they don't the rest is divided evenly amongst the players.populousample wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 1:52 pmNot so certain they wouldn’t take him and his salary if they could get another asset (or 2 or 3) to building around. It looks like their cupboards are bare when AD leaves and there is little upside in paying and keeping Jrue. They do have to spend up to a minimum correct?
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I don't get the Jrue Holiday hype here. He aight but he's notoriously injured.
It reeks of the type of player the Wolves get and is completely underwhelming ala Teague.
No way am I trading my lotto pick for him. Hard pass on Conley too.
I would love a guy like Deangelo Russell if the Nets decided to sign Kyrie. Problem is, we don't have the assets to acquire a player of that caliber. We are stuck going after lesser players.
Just keep playing bad basketball and see what we get in the lotto over the next few years.
It reeks of the type of player the Wolves get and is completely underwhelming ala Teague.
No way am I trading my lotto pick for him. Hard pass on Conley too.
I would love a guy like Deangelo Russell if the Nets decided to sign Kyrie. Problem is, we don't have the assets to acquire a player of that caliber. We are stuck going after lesser players.
Just keep playing bad basketball and see what we get in the lotto over the next few years.
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Jrue would look very nice here. Just imagine the defense that a Jrue/Okogie/RoCo lineup would bringirishman89 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:32 am Every time I think of the PG Philly would look great with, I always think Jrue. Kind of ironic.
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This team is not in a position to make a trade. This team again needs to build via the draft. Jure is not going to bring this team anywhere and will only leave us without assets and young talent. This would be KG all over again with Towns. People need to get over these stupid ideas. We still have a chance to do something.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 6:02 pmJrue would look very nice here. Just imagine the defense that a Jrue/Okogie/RoCo lineup would bringirishman89 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:32 am Every time I think of the PG Philly would look great with, I always think Jrue. Kind of ironic.
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After Kawhi leaves Toronto, flip Wiggins for Lowry. I really like Lowry, he's getting up there but it's win win situation. You dump Andrews contract and get someone who can play and you don't give up young assets.
Draft best player available.
Bada bing bada boom.
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I really don’t think we need Lowry’s disappearing act.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 pm After Kawhi leaves Toronto, flip Wiggins for Lowry. I really like Lowry, he's getting up there but it's win win situation. You dump Andrews contract and get someone who can play and you don't give up young assets.
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this isn't a bad idea because lowry WOULD pull a disappearing act. as in the $33M due to him would just be for the one season and then his contract would expire. and we'd be out from under andrew's longterm money. we'd have to come up with another $6M player to make the deal work. can we do a sign and trade with tyus at $6M?SHAFA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 6:58 amI really don’t think we need Lowry’s disappearing act.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 pm After Kawhi leaves Toronto, flip Wiggins for Lowry. I really like Lowry, he's getting up there but it's win win situation. You dump Andrews contract and get someone who can play and you don't give up young assets.
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Huh, for some reason I thought he signed a 4-year deal. Woopsie.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:13 amthis isn't a bad idea because lowry WOULD pull a disappearing act. as in the $33M due to him would just be for the one season and then his contract would expire. and we'd be out from under andrew's longterm money. we'd have to come up with another $6M player to make the deal work. can we do a sign and trade with tyus at $6M?SHAFA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 6:58 amI really don’t think we need Lowry’s disappearing act.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 pm After Kawhi leaves Toronto, flip Wiggins for Lowry. I really like Lowry, he's getting up there but it's win win situation. You dump Andrews contract and get someone who can play and you don't give up young assets.
Draft best player available.
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maybe he did and i missed it. but i just checked both sportrac and hoopshype again and they say the same thing - his contract expires at the end of the coming season.SHAFA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:44 amHuh, for some reason I thought he signed a 4-year deal. Woopsie.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:13 amthis isn't a bad idea because lowry WOULD pull a disappearing act. as in the $33M due to him would just be for the one season and then his contract would expire. and we'd be out from under andrew's longterm money. we'd have to come up with another $6M player to make the deal work. can we do a sign and trade with tyus at $6M?
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