**Official NBA Offseason Transactions/Rumors Thread**

[OliverMiller]

Crazy they couldn't move any of the expiring for even 2nd rounders.

[UnFadeable21]

Our old guys are not even worth 2nd rounders to other teams. Bayless, Deng, Tolliver? Don't make me laugh.

[SHAFA]

I’m not sure what people expected. It’s been clear that they’re still shooting for a playoff berth, and they aren’t far off, especially with some of the moves made the last few days.

[Moses Scurry]

Wiggins for Gordon. Orlando can roll out Issac and Wigs on the wings.

Oh wait, too late.

Wait a minute, did AG get dealt?

No, deadline. I thought they wanted to move him at some point. No rumors, just froob wishful thinking.

[HeHateMe]

Crazy they couldn't move any of the expiring for even 2nd rounders.

My assumption on some of these moves are more about finances than the actual players.

So did MN get an offer for Tolliver ... like here's Nick Stauskas and a second round pick? I feel like they'd pull the trigger on that but the team on the other side... seems to me like they'd rather look at the buyout market and save $$ that way versus adding Tolliver and whatever is left on his contract.

[witljon]

Our old guys are not even worth 2nd rounders to other teams. Bayless, Deng, Tolliver? Don't make me laugh.

We need em for our playoff run.

[populousample]

Beyond him opting out, and without a trade, how do we get Teague off the books for next year?

[irishman89]

All Teague needs is the belief that a team will offer him a deal worth more than $19 million, regardless of the years. In that case, he will opt out and move on. I can't imagine he wants to be here that badly. He came here to play with Butler. I am not so sure he doesn't opt out and move on.

[UnFadeable21]

Beyond him opting out, and without a trade, how do we get Teague off the books for next year?

If he is miserable like Crawford was and opts out. He knows the fan base has never really warmed up to him. He’s good at times but way too unpredictable.

[RubeTube]

Marc Gasol to Toronto...glad to see Wolves do nothing

They have nothing anyone wants.

[RubeTube]

No Timberwolves trades. Interesting

Horrible, not interesting. We should have moved at least Tolliver. Layden needs to find the door, and then let it hit him on the way out.

Who wants Anthony Tolliver for fs sake?!?

[Bob Wiley]

Did Toronto get better adding Marc Gasol? And if so, how much?

[qrocks]

Did Toronto get better adding Marc Gasol? And if so, how much?

Gasol will give Embiid a challenge. His length will help against Lopez in Milwaukee also. Gasol can pull both of those players away from the basket.

Not sure how this is going to impact my fantasy basketball Serge Ibaka standings. My guess is that Serge gets his minutes cut as he was the starting center ...

[irishman89]

I could see them putting out a huge crushing lineup where Ibaka plays next to Gasol, and Siakam plays the three.

[OliverMiller]

Crazy they couldn't move any of the expiring for even 2nd rounders.

My assumption on some of these moves are more about finances than the actual players.

So did MN get an offer for Tolliver ... like here's Nick Stauskas and a second round pick? I feel like they'd pull the trigger on that but the team on the other side... seems to me like they'd rather look at the buyout market and save $$ that way versus adding Tolliver and whatever is left on his contract.

Yeah that's a fair point especially since it seems like the buyout market will be pretty good.

[HeHateMe]

All Teague needs is the belief that a team will offer him a deal worth more than $19 million, regardless of the years. In that case, he will opt out and move on. I can't imagine he wants to be here that badly. He came here to play with Butler. I am not so sure he doesn't opt out and move on.

No one is paying him anything close to that next year.

[Moses Scurry]

"It is lost on no one within the Bulls that they are 4-2 under Jim Boylen when LaVine has been out and 3-21 otherwise. That stat could mean nothing, but it has been noted.

Dunn was there to be had at the deadline, sources say. LaVine was not, but the Bulls probably would have listened had someone overwhelmed them -- which no one was going to do."

[Thrillkill]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

[OliverMiller]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

[UnFadeable21]

All Teague needs is the belief that a team will offer him a deal worth more than $19 million, regardless of the years. In that case, he will opt out and move on. I can't imagine he wants to be here that badly. He came here to play with Butler. I am not so sure he doesn't opt out and move on.

No one is paying him anything close to that next year.

Our bet chance to get out of that is if he hates it here so much he leaves on his own free will like Jamal Crawford did but his option was only 4.5 million.

[HeHateMe]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

What are you getting from the Clippers?

Boston's package is better if they include Tatum and most of the picks.

The Lakers offer once they included every young player, take on Solomon Hill and two unprotected picks was a really, really good trade offer.

[HeHateMe]

"It is lost on no one within the Bulls that they are 4-2 under Jim Boylen when LaVine has been out and 3-21 otherwise. That stat could mean nothing, but it has been noted.

Dunn was there to be had at the deadline, sources say. LaVine was not, but the Bulls probably would have listened had someone overwhelmed them -- which no one was going to do."

Zach Lowe had some interesting comments on Dunn and LaVine on one of his recent podcasts. Don't want to misquote but he ripped 'em pretty good. No secret he's not a fan of either guy.

[OliverMiller]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

What are you getting from the Clippers?

Boston's package is better if they include Tatum and most of the picks.

The Lakers offer once they included every young player, take on Solomon Hill and two unprotected picks was a really, really good trade offer.

They have the unprotected Miami pick and additional future philly pick to throw in so better and more picks.

And then I like SGA and Robinson as much as the Lkawrs young guys. Throw in Shamet as well.

I agree Celtics offer could be the best and I don't think they lose any offers unless AD suffers a big injury.

[Thrillkill]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

I'm a bird in the hand guy. If the deal is good then take it. More teams have got less by a mile than have got significantly better. You also get games to get a gauge on the players you get before maybe building a flawed roster around them in the offseason. You also have them in hand on draft night when as a rebuild you want to have the flex to make some moves.

Bonehead move by them IMO. They might want to remember that the teams that want AD have either a ton of space to buy without assets or so many assets like Bos they can do many other things.

[OliverMiller]

They just showed what NO turned down for AD. NO is just stupid for not taking it.

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

I'm a bird in the hand guy. If the deal is good then take it. More teams have got less by a mile than have got significantly better. You also get games to get a gauge on the players you get before maybe building a flawed roster around them in the offseason. You also have them in hand on draft night when as a rebuild you want to have the flex to make some moves.

Bonehead move by them IMO. They might want to remember that the teams that want AD have either a ton of space to buy without assets or so many assets like Bos they can do many other things.

Yeah I think that's fair. Maybe I love them playing the Lakers for a fool too much

[HeHateMe]

I don't blame them. I'd rather get a package from the Clippers or Boston.

What are you getting from the Clippers?

Boston's package is better if they include Tatum and most of the picks.

The Lakers offer once they included every young player, take on Solomon Hill and two unprotected picks was a really, really good trade offer.

They have the unprotected Miami pick and additional future philly pick to throw in so better and more picks.

And then I like SGA and Robinson as much as the Lkawrs young guys. Throw in Shamet as well.

I agree Celtics offer could be the best and I don't think they lose any offers unless AD suffers a big injury.

I still don't think AD goes anywhere he's not willing to give a commitment to. Not sure he does it for the Clippers but yeah, that Harris trade gave them to nice picks. SGA looks good (via fantasy hoops), haven't followed Robinson as close. I think Shamet is a nice player but doesn't quite move the needle.

[T_J]

Pau buyout from the Spurs. There's hope!

Spoiler:

Going to Milwaukee.

[jodaman01]

My God look at all these incredible moves the Wolves have made this offseason!!! They will be almost unrecognizable this season with these amazing moves. Thank you Jimmy Butler for the incredible job of recruiting talent here this summer, I am sorry I ever doubted him.

Championship Or Bust!!



GO WOLVES!!

the 2016-17 wolves included casspi, dunn, hill, lavine, lucas III, bazz, payne, rubio, rush and stephenson. the following year we brought in brooks, brown, butler, crawford, MGH, gibson, patton, rose and teague. i want to see them add another wing and maybe a development big. other than that, i'm excusing them this year if they've opted for a little more stability.

That second group would beat that first group 120-59 but Jodaclown thinks we've regressed.

I also said Tolliver’s second stint here would likely end worse than his first stint (and that ended pretty badly).

Jodadamus Is Real!

[somuchyummy]

not quite the offseason yet to fit this thread, but i'll run with it anyway. just waived in the last two days - wes johnson, rodney mcgruder and luc mbah a moute. it's interesting to see who's getting shed as the season winds down.

[T_J]

not quite the offseason yet to fit this thread, but i'll run with it anyway. just waived in the last two days - wes johnson, rodney mcgruder and luc mbah a moute. it's interesting to see who's getting shed as the season winds down.

You can start a 2019 offseason thread if you want. I'm not sure why I didn't put a year on it.