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**Official NBA Offseason Transactions/Rumors Thread**
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Trading Covington makes sense being he is likely near the pinnacle of his value that will drop as he ages and his awesome contract becomes shorter. This would be a fine way to add a couple of assets that fit with the time-line. I would hate to see him go and in a perfect would I would like to keep him at least one more year as a mentor to Okogie and Culver, but we also need to do the right thing by selling high with players who are problematic in the grand design.
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I like Bob, but if you can package Wiggins or Dieng with him to get a good player back, then I'm all for it.
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No sense in trading Covington unless it's part of a deal that brings back a haul(potential star). His ability and contract make it easier to build the rest of the roster.
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Meh. If say you can get a young player with good upside and a FRP, I think you do it. Rookie scale contracts and team control also make it easier to build a roster. In addition to this young pieces are more likely going to be the ask in a trade of another team's star player and this type of move helps with that.
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Who is an example of a young player you'd target in your scenario?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:17 amMeh. If say you can get a young player with good upside and a FRP, I think you do it. Rookie scale contracts and team control also make it easier to build a roster. In addition to this young pieces are more likely going to be the ask in a trade of another team's star player and this type of move helps with that.
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I don't have an example, but if I were GM I would seek offers and see if any meet my expectations.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 amWho is an example of a young player you'd target in your scenario?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:17 amMeh. If say you can get a young player with good upside and a FRP, I think you do it. Rookie scale contracts and team control also make it easier to build a roster. In addition to this young pieces are more likely going to be the ask in a trade of another team's star player and this type of move helps with that.
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I can tell you one, Johnny.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 amWho is an example of a young player you'd target in your scenario?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:17 amMeh. If say you can get a young player with good upside and a FRP, I think you do it. Rookie scale contracts and team control also make it easier to build a roster. In addition to this young pieces are more likely going to be the ask in a trade of another team's star player and this type of move helps with that.
This isn't my first choice however I feel is the type of talent that you could realistically get back.
I would trade Bob straight up for DSJ.
No package we have to offer is bringing back a "Star" unless you are offering multiple 1st rounders.
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So with the Heat trading for Beal and Wall rumor going on, the Wolves could put together a more attractive package.
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
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You can say that about everybody. No one is saying he's untouchable. Just that it would be stupid to move him unless you're getting a major return. Other guys on the roster most would be ok with getting next to nothing back; Dieng, Teague, Wiggins...SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:24 amI don't have an example, but if I were GM I would seek offers and see if any meet my expectations.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 amWho is an example of a young player you'd target in your scenario?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:17 am
Meh. If say you can get a young player with good upside and a FRP, I think you do it. Rookie scale contracts and team control also make it easier to build a roster. In addition to this young pieces are more likely going to be the ask in a trade of another team's star player and this type of move helps with that.
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Straight up for Capela?
Smart and a 1st?
Smart and a 1st?
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I'm not sure we'd have to add the pick, or even Culver, considering Wall won't play this year despite getting paid like $35mil. Sounds like Beal is untouchable, but I'd love him here.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:30 am So with the Heat trading for Beal and Wall rumor going on, the Wolves could put together a more attractive package.
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
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I guess that was my thinking to overcome the untouchable part.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:33 amI'm not sure we'd have to add the pick, or even Culver, considering Wall won't play this year despite getting paid like $35mil. Sounds like Beal is untouchable, but I'd love him here.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:30 am So with the Heat trading for Beal and Wall rumor going on, the Wolves could put together a more attractive package.
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
I guess I'm asking would you give out positive assets and take on Wall to get Beal
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It's easy to say "We should trade Player A for Player B and a pick", but it's important to think why would the other team make that trade?
Can't imagine Boston moving the extremely important Smart for another wing.
I like the idea of DSJ, but so far the occasional highlight has outweighed his production and has him a bit overrated by many. Hopefully he figures it out.
Can't imagine Boston moving the extremely important Smart for another wing.
I like the idea of DSJ, but so far the occasional highlight has outweighed his production and has him a bit overrated by many. Hopefully he figures it out.
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I will revolt if this cocksucker trades Covington.
I would rather have Covington on this team than Russell
I would rather have Covington on this team than Russell
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Memphis is reporteldy expected to waive Avery Bradley.
Bradley has a $10.9 million salary for 2019-20, only $2 million of it is guaranteed. Last month, Bradley agreed to push his guarantee date back to July 8. Thus, the Grizz have three more days to make a decision.
Bradley has a $10.9 million salary for 2019-20, only $2 million of it is guaranteed. Last month, Bradley agreed to push his guarantee date back to July 8. Thus, the Grizz have three more days to make a decision.
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I would trade Wiggins/Teague/Dieng for Beal/Wall. That's a combined savings of $51mil for the Wizards. $23mil of it next year along, putting them in position of having 2 max contract slots available. Not a bad reset and an opportunity to get away from Wall's dead salary. Beal is obviously the best player in that deal, so maybe we have to add a future protected first. I'd see how we could take Mahinmi back, who is getting paid $15mil this year to do jackshit.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:37 amI guess that was my thinking to overcome the untouchable part.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:33 amI'm not sure we'd have to add the pick, or even Culver, considering Wall won't play this year despite getting paid like $35mil. Sounds like Beal is untouchable, but I'd love him here.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:30 am So with the Heat trading for Beal and Wall rumor going on, the Wolves could put together a more attractive package.
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
I guess I'm asking would you give out positive assets and take on Wall to get Beal
If that's not enough, which some might argue, then you have to walk away. Can't keep offering more and more just to say you got a deal done, there has to be a line.
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Bradley showed flashes of what he used to be after the trade before shutting it down. I'd kick the tires for the right price.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:48 am Memphis is reporteldy expected to waive Avery Bradley.
Bradley has a $10.9 million salary for 2019-20, only $2 million of it is guaranteed. Last month, Bradley agreed to push his guarantee date back to July 8. Thus, the Grizz have three more days to make a decision.
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John Wall's legs terrify me. I'd go after Beal all day, but not with Wall coming back. That could have the team in such a bad place in 1-2 seasons, even with Beal. I know they are always in a bad place, but that would be even worse of a bad place. I feel like we have enough to offer to land Beal if we wanted to. I just don't think Washington wants to deal him.
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He'll be dirt cheap and can still defend well. He got dinged up there for a while, traded, etc, and got lost in the shuffle on a rebuilding team. Almost exactly the same age as Covington though. Weeks apart, actually.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:50 amBradley showed flashes of what he used to be after the trade before shutting it down. I'd kick the tires for the right price.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:48 am Memphis is reporteldy expected to waive Avery Bradley.
Bradley has a $10.9 million salary for 2019-20, only $2 million of it is guaranteed. Last month, Bradley agreed to push his guarantee date back to July 8. Thus, the Grizz have three more days to make a decision.
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No.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:30 am So with the Heat trading for Beal and Wall rumor going on, the Wolves could put together a more attractive package.
Would you do
Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Culver for Beal and Wall?
Maybe a pick from Minny as well?
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I expect if we trade RoCo he would bring back a very good return, that is in fact the arrgument for trading him.
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I think I would do that as well.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:48 amI would trade Wiggins/Teague/Dieng for Beal/Wall. That's a combined savings of $51mil for the Wizards. $23mil of it next year along, putting them in position of having 2 max contract slots available. Not a bad reset and an opportunity to get away from Wall's dead salary. Beal is obviously the best player in that deal, so maybe we have to add a future protected first. I'd see how we could take Mahinmi back, who is getting paid $15mil this year to do jackshit.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:37 amI guess that was my thinking to overcome the untouchable part.
I guess I'm asking would you give out positive assets and take on Wall to get Beal
If that's not enough, which some might argue, then you have to walk away. Can't keep offering more and more just to say you got a deal done, there has to be a line.
Beal/Towns/Cov + our young guys...maybe an outside chance Wall becomes an allstar again.
Mainly Beal + Towns is a great tandem and I'd love watching it.
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Fair enough on saying no to taking on Wall.
I just think a trio of KAT-Beal-Covington is probably best case scenario over the next few years.
I just think a trio of KAT-Beal-Covington is probably best case scenario over the next few years.
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That Wall contract is awful. I don't even think Beal is enough of a payoff, a guy who will likely leave and doesn't care for Wall. Wall is a non starter.T_J wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:04 pmI think I would do that as well.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:48 amI would trade Wiggins/Teague/Dieng for Beal/Wall. That's a combined savings of $51mil for the Wizards. $23mil of it next year along, putting them in position of having 2 max contract slots available. Not a bad reset and an opportunity to get away from Wall's dead salary. Beal is obviously the best player in that deal, so maybe we have to add a future protected first. I'd see how we could take Mahinmi back, who is getting paid $15mil this year to do jackshit.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:37 am
I guess that was my thinking to overcome the untouchable part.
I guess I'm asking would you give out positive assets and take on Wall to get Beal
If that's not enough, which some might argue, then you have to walk away. Can't keep offering more and more just to say you got a deal done, there has to be a line.
Beal/Towns/Cov + our young guys...maybe an outside chance Wall becomes an allstar again.
Mainly Beal + Towns is a great tandem and I'd love watching it.
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Anybody that thinks Covington is long for this Team needs to get a damn clue........He Gone!!
He is the one real asset this team has left and Rosas needs to be smart in whatever deal he ends up using him in. With all the wings picked up, they are auditioning replacements.
Fuckhead Rosas should have just used him to get Garland, would have had the future PG and could have used Saric for something else at the deadline or right now. Colossal Fuck Up!
He is the one real asset this team has left and Rosas needs to be smart in whatever deal he ends up using him in. With all the wings picked up, they are auditioning replacements.
Fuckhead Rosas should have just used him to get Garland, would have had the future PG and could have used Saric for something else at the deadline or right now. Colossal Fuck Up!
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What is it about Garland that you like so much? I didn't see enough to feel he was some grand prize as others see him. Hoping you're willing to take the time to sell me on him.jodaman01 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:25 pm Anybody that thinks Covington is long for this Team needs to get a damn clue........He Gone!!
He is the one real asset this team has left and Rosas needs to be smart in whatever deal he ends up using him in. With all the wings picked up, they are auditioning replacements.
Fuckhead Rosas should have just used him to get Garland, would have had the future PG and could have used Saric for something else at the deadline or right now. Colossal Fuck Up!
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I need to be sold on him too.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:31 pmWhat is it about Garland that you like so much? I didn't see enough to feel he was some grand prize as others see him. Hoping you're willing to take the time to sell me on him.jodaman01 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:25 pm Anybody that thinks Covington is long for this Team needs to get a damn clue........He Gone!!
He is the one real asset this team has left and Rosas needs to be smart in whatever deal he ends up using him in. With all the wings picked up, they are auditioning replacements.
Fuckhead Rosas should have just used him to get Garland, would have had the future PG and could have used Saric for something else at the deadline or right now. Colossal Fuck Up!
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Nobody seems to be able to other than "Rosas fucked up."witljon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 pmI need to be sold on him too.j2j wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:31 pmWhat is it about Garland that you like so much? I didn't see enough to feel he was some grand prize as others see him. Hoping you're willing to take the time to sell me on him.jodaman01 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:25 pm Anybody that thinks Covington is long for this Team needs to get a damn clue........He Gone!!
He is the one real asset this team has left and Rosas needs to be smart in whatever deal he ends up using him in. With all the wings picked up, they are auditioning replacements.
Fuckhead Rosas should have just used him to get Garland, would have had the future PG and could have used Saric for something else at the deadline or right now. Colossal Fuck Up!
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