digitalwolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:21 am
Just chiming in on the Melo thing.....anyone here say that Melo wasn't purely about brand and stats is a moron. He could have waiting in the offseason with Denver to simply leave to NY, but because he wanted the most money and destination, he and his agent knowingly gutted all of the Knicks assets to eventually be paired with Amare. The guy was never about winning.....I mean, what Dbag buys a 2 million dollar portrait of himself? KG was always about will and win, he is the absolute opposite of anything the Carmelo Anthony resembled.
I love KG and am not looking to defend Melo here, but let's not forget that KG demanded he get that huge extension early on that pretty much crippled our financial flexibility and directly led to the lockout in 1998.
Your glasses are a little too rosy here.
I didn't bring up his crippling contract because KG actually put in the work. He never got hurt, played both ends.....never got fat in the offseason. Melo had great numbers, but the guy was physically and mentally soft. KG was never either, again....exact opposite.
I definitely agree on the court, but you chided Melo for wanting the most money out of the Knicks, yet it was KG wanting the most money that literally led to the lockout. I just thought those 2 contradicted each other.
I agree with everything else you said though, and I've met KG personally a few times through my old employer and he's always been a cool guy it seems so I'm not trying to dawg him by any means.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
This thread has been hijacked... so I’ll chime in I hate Melo... but he is a HoFer. At one point in his career he was the leagues most lethal scorer with an array of crazy post moves. However he also was completely uninterested in the other facet of the game in playing defense. A me first player who didn’t care about winning only padding his stats.
While the negatives certainly should hurt him the stats will get him in.
I love KG and am not looking to defend Melo here, but let's not forget that KG demanded he get that huge extension early on that pretty much crippled our financial flexibility and directly led to the lockout in 1998.
Your glasses are a little too rosy here.
I didn't bring up his crippling contract because KG actually put in the work. He never got hurt, played both ends.....never got fat in the offseason. Melo had great numbers, but the guy was physically and mentally soft. KG was never either, again....exact opposite.
I definitely agree on the court, but you chided Melo for wanting the most money out of the Knicks, yet it was KG wanting the most money that literally led to the lockout. I just thought those 2 contradicted each other.
I agree with everything else you said though, and I've met KG personally a few times through my old employer and he's always been a cool guy it seems so I'm not trying to dawg him by any means.
I can see why you see it as a contradiction....but for me, KG's play warranted the most money. Nothing Melo did after Syracuse deserved gutting a team. Of course he's a pile of garbage off the court, but it's his play tied with the money that irks me. If KG didn't play any D and look possessed while playing, I could easily lump not only their situations, but their play together as well.
I didn't bring up his crippling contract because KG actually put in the work. He never got hurt, played both ends.....never got fat in the offseason. Melo had great numbers, but the guy was physically and mentally soft. KG was never either, again....exact opposite.
I definitely agree on the court, but you chided Melo for wanting the most money out of the Knicks, yet it was KG wanting the most money that literally led to the lockout. I just thought those 2 contradicted each other.
I agree with everything else you said though, and I've met KG personally a few times through my old employer and he's always been a cool guy it seems so I'm not trying to dawg him by any means.
I can see why you see it as a contradiction....but for me, KG's play warranted the most money. Nothing Melo did after Syracuse deserved gutting a team. Of course he's a pile of garbage off the court, but it's his play tied with the money that irks me. If KG didn't play any D and look possessed while playing, I could easily lump not only their situations, but their play together as well.
And I'll be honest, I want the guys to ask for the most money. I think that's the only way to best maintain competitive balance throughout the entire league. It scares me about the future of the league that there is so much money for these guys to make in endorsements and side businesses, that they could view taking steep pay reductions in their basketball salary as a way to continue stacking teams.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
The Miami Heat have acquired a second-round pick (44 overall) in the 2019 NBA Draft from Atlanta in exchange for a future conditional second-round pick and cash considerations.
I expect Miami to move as much dead weight as possible. This could be to attach to a bum or two.
The Brooklyn Nets are holding internal talks about whether they should move forward with signing Kyrie Irving if Kevin Durant doesn't join him as a package deal, according to Brian Lewis of the New York Post.
Other teams have backed off pursuing Irving due to how his situation with the Boston Celtics played out.
The Nets could instead re-sign D'Angelo Russell at a cheaper contract than would be necessary to sign Irving.
Brooklyn has almost $68 million in cap room if it renounces Russell, $46 million after his cap hold.
Adrian Wojnarowski reported similarly.
“If they don’t get a second star, it will be interesting to see if Brooklyn wants to have Kyrie Irving as a solo act," said Wojnarowski. "That didn’t go so great in Boston last year. So we’ll see if Brooklyn is still following through on just Kyrie Irving because if they don’t take Kyrie Irving, they can just bring back D’Angelo Russell at a lower number. Younger player.”
Eroder wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm
That settles it. Hoop is right!
Eroder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:59 pm
Hoop is right again!!