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D_H wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:45 pm
mlhouse wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:30 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:45 pm
Like Floyd? $20 fake bill is not worthy of loos of your life. What you say is mostly true, but tell me why a young black kid can get shot for being scared, and warrant or not, he was killed. While young adult can walk into a grocery store and kill several people, but get escorted out without being shot. See the dif?
But you are entitled to your opinion, but facts are, black people are killed more often. Cops reach for guns before even trying to deescalate. See the Army officer get sprayed for asking why he was being stopped. Police didn't see his tabs. He could have been killed. What did he do wrong? Drove to an area where it was well lit so he couldn't be murdered in the dark. Then the officer LIED and said he struck his hand as they tried to take him out. It's not as black and white as you seem to think. How would you respond if you got stopped, and police had guns drawn on you? See the dif?
But anyway, back to Wolves talk.
1. The constant linkage of the perpetrators death to the original reason why the police were called is disingenuous. The continued use of these types of claims makes you look foolish.

2. Your claims are false with respect to the claim that African-Americans are more often killed than whites. 52% of the victims of lethal force by law enforcement are white. 32% are African American.... oh, but you will respond that blacks are only 13% of the population and thus are disproportionately killed by law enforcement. And while that claim is based on numbers, it is the wrong denominator since African-Americans commit a disporportionate amount of the crimes. When you use criminal activity as the denominator, whites are killed by law enforcement in a slightly disproportionate amount.

3. The army officer getting peppered had nothing to do with "tabs", but was based on a report of a similar vehicle that was involved in a crime. If there is a report of a crime involving the make and model and color of my vehicle and I happened to drive by, the police would likely treat me as a suspect too. So, there really isn't a "dif".

I personally have been arrested. I was pulled over for speeding while traveling in Minnesota. I lost the paper ticket and was waiting for the notice I know they will send once your fine is due because I could not remember even what county I was in when pulled over. The day after Memorial Day two police officers showed up at my front door to execute an arrest warrant on my ass. I asked them if they were going to handcuff me, and when they said Yes I told them I wasn't going. When they both simultaneously reached for their tasers I changed my dumb ass mind. If I would have resisted arrest they would have tased me and probably would have beat the shit out of me, I would have spent more than the 41 minutes I spent in the jail on that charge. It was my choice to resist or not, and man I wanted to fucking not be arrested on a bullshit traffic warrant.

So could have this kid. And many others.

I get that you are fed a pile of propaganda from race baiters who want to see these racial and police tensions escalated. They do this because you fall for it all the time.
Propaganda
Lol

You really are a special kind of stupid

Trump voter
Lol
Again, you believe things that are not true because that is what is being fed to you.
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My plan to stop shitty cops from being shitty.

Any time a cop does something stupid that results in Minnesota having to pay a family... The money should come from the police pension fund.
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Philo Beddoe wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:49 pm My plan to stop shitty cops from being shitty.

Any time a cop does something stupid that results in Minnesota having to pay a family... The money should come from the police pension fund.
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mlhouse wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:46 pm
D_H wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:45 pm
mlhouse wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:30 pm

1. The constant linkage of the perpetrators death to the original reason why the police were called is disingenuous. The continued use of these types of claims makes you look foolish.

2. Your claims are false with respect to the claim that African-Americans are more often killed than whites. 52% of the victims of lethal force by law enforcement are white. 32% are African American.... oh, but you will respond that blacks are only 13% of the population and thus are disproportionately killed by law enforcement. And while that claim is based on numbers, it is the wrong denominator since African-Americans commit a disporportionate amount of the crimes. When you use criminal activity as the denominator, whites are killed by law enforcement in a slightly disproportionate amount.

3. The army officer getting peppered had nothing to do with "tabs", but was based on a report of a similar vehicle that was involved in a crime. If there is a report of a crime involving the make and model and color of my vehicle and I happened to drive by, the police would likely treat me as a suspect too. So, there really isn't a "dif".

I personally have been arrested. I was pulled over for speeding while traveling in Minnesota. I lost the paper ticket and was waiting for the notice I know they will send once your fine is due because I could not remember even what county I was in when pulled over. The day after Memorial Day two police officers showed up at my front door to execute an arrest warrant on my ass. I asked them if they were going to handcuff me, and when they said Yes I told them I wasn't going. When they both simultaneously reached for their tasers I changed my dumb ass mind. If I would have resisted arrest they would have tased me and probably would have beat the shit out of me, I would have spent more than the 41 minutes I spent in the jail on that charge. It was my choice to resist or not, and man I wanted to fucking not be arrested on a bullshit traffic warrant.

So could have this kid. And many others.

I get that you are fed a pile of propaganda from race baiters who want to see these racial and police tensions escalated. They do this because you fall for it all the time.
Propaganda
Lol

You really are a special kind of stupid

Trump voter
Lol
Again, you believe things that are not true because that is what is being fed to you.
Yeah like the election was rigged

Trump voter
Lol
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Mlhouse probably thinks Chauvin is innocent.
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mlhouse wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:30 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:45 pm
Like Floyd? $20 fake bill is not worthy of loos of your life. What you say is mostly true, but tell me why a young black kid can get shot for being scared, and warrant or not, he was killed. While young adult can walk into a grocery store and kill several people, but get escorted out without being shot. See the dif?
But you are entitled to your opinion, but facts are, black people are killed more often. Cops reach for guns before even trying to deescalate. See the Army officer get sprayed for asking why he was being stopped. Police didn't see his tabs. He could have been killed. What did he do wrong? Drove to an area where it was well lit so he couldn't be murdered in the dark. Then the officer LIED and said he struck his hand as they tried to take him out. It's not as black and white as you seem to think. How would you respond if you got stopped, and police had guns drawn on you? See the dif?
But anyway, back to Wolves talk.
1. The constant linkage of the perpetrators death to the original reason why the police were called is disingenuous. The continued use of these types of claims makes you look foolish.

2. Your claims are false with respect to the claim that African-Americans are more often killed than whites. 52% of the victims of lethal force by law enforcement are white. 32% are African American.... oh, but you will respond that blacks are only 13% of the population and thus are disproportionately killed by law enforcement. And while that claim is based on numbers, it is the wrong denominator since African-Americans commit a disporportionate amount of the crimes. When you use criminal activity as the denominator, whites are killed by law enforcement in a slightly disproportionate amount.

3. The army officer getting peppered had nothing to do with "tabs", but was based on a report of a similar vehicle that was involved in a crime. If there is a report of a crime involving the make and model and color of my vehicle and I happened to drive by, the police would likely treat me as a suspect too. So, there really isn't a "dif".

I personally have been arrested. I was pulled over for speeding while traveling in Minnesota. I lost the paper ticket and was waiting for the notice I know they will send once your fine is due because I could not remember even what county I was in when pulled over. The day after Memorial Day two police officers showed up at my front door to execute an arrest warrant on my ass. I asked them if they were going to handcuff me, and when they said Yes I told them I wasn't going. When they both simultaneously reached for their tasers I changed my dumb ass mind. If I would have resisted arrest they would have tased me and probably would have beat the shit out of me, I would have spent more than the 41 minutes I spent in the jail on that charge. It was my choice to resist or not, and man I wanted to fucking not be arrested on a bullshit traffic warrant.

So could have this kid. And many others.

I get that you are fed a pile of propaganda from race baiters who want to see these racial and police tensions escalated. They do this because you fall for it all the time.
Don't pretend to know what I fall for. I won't even respond considering you start the discussion by calling my opinion "foolish"
And you could have used the system to find your ticket. So don't pretend you were treated the same as a black man. F*ck that example you used was ignorant.
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And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
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and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:23 am and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.


Or if the POTUS pays thousand less in taxes than a Burger King employee?
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larryhagmansliver wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:05 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
They''d have loved you in communist Russia. A perfect foot soldier, steadily marching forwards your own doom with a smile on your face and a flag in your hand.
Same flag they used to beat down the boys in blue on Jan 6th? :shock: Or the confederate/Trump flag?
Suggesting someone go to Russia because they don't think like you is....well....Ignorant.

I'm done with this topic.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
i stay out of these threads--but i will comment here because of your last line. it's pretty much a near and medium term no-win situation for people making your point. might even be a long term no-win situation as well.

these things happen. the water gets muddied by the other side and in the end the law and order (republican) party gains more votes. that's what happened in 2020.
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and the division in the country becomes a greater chasm.
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:23 am and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.
I don't get your point?
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larryhagmansliver wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:05 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
They''d have loved you in communist Russia. A perfect foot soldier, steadily marching forwards your own doom with a smile on your face and a flag in your hand.
No they wouldn't.

I think most crimes or laws are BS, counterfeiting isn't one, it is a fraud on/theft of the american public. Create your own currency. Most crimes, like expired tabs, something hanging from your mirror for instance are ridiculous and was the pretext for this encounter. There shouldn't have been an interaction in the first place. Fewer laws results in fewer interactions, fewer interactions results in a lower probability of something tragically unjust happening as well as any tangentially related ill effects, be them decreased economic or personal opportunity.

They would hate me.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
That coke vs. crack narrative is the biggest lie that liberals keep saying.

The equivalent is meth vs. crack. Equal sentencing guidelines. Meth, white drug. Crack, black drug. It's the impact of the drug in the community is why they are equal.

Repeat a lie long enough, people just take it as fact.
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Soooo, are they making this game up tonight?
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kilkenny wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:51 am Soooo, are they making this game up tonight?
Yeah, when is the Wolves/Nets game going to be played?
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Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
You attempt to find the manufacturer, that is moving up the food chain i.e. the suitcase. And I don't think there are many if any more serious nonviolent crimes than counterfeiting.

A ticket? Fuck that noise. Put him in jail for 10-20 years or cut a deal if he can give you a bigger fish and cut off the supply. A ticket? Really? You don't get to destabilize the economy.

And if you think I am in favor of a police state, I think all drugs should be legal, that felons should be allowed to own guns, that you shouldn't need a license to drive ect.. So when the guy who wants very few laws, very few people in jail/prison for stupid shit, it should tell you something about the gravity of the crime if I want it punished severly.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:01 am
Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:43 pm

Counterfeiting is a serious crime that takes aim at our economy, every person in the country is a victim. So I do believe you are downplaying the crime. Obviously you don't set out to kill people over it, but you also don't passively attack that crime either and you use force if necessary. Then you work your way up the food chain and cut deals from there. As far as I am concerned the actual manufacturer of counterfeit notes is a life sentence without parole type of crime (+). Clearly, the passing of a fake bill isn't that, but if you knowingly pass one, you should get big boy time. So it is not some petty crime it is a crime where you could face 20 years as is because of its seriousness.

Yes, they should have handled Floyd better.
Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
You attempt to find the manufacturer, that is moving up the food chain i.e. the suitcase. And I don't think there are many if any more serious nonviolent crimes than counterfeiting.

A ticket? Fuck that noise. Put him in jail for 10-20 years or cut a deal if he can give you a bigger fish and cut off the supply. A ticket? Really? You don't get to destabilize the economy.

And if you think I am in favor of a police state, I think all drugs should be legal, that felons should be allowed to own guns, that you shouldn't need a license to drive ect.. So when the guy who wants very few laws, very few people in jail/prison for stupid shit, it should tell you something about the gravity of the crime.
10-20 years for a fake $20 bill? :lol: Floyd was gassed up, he probably had no ideal it was fake.

I suggest we go after REAL criminals that commit crimes like bilking millions of dollars with ponzi schemes, tax fraud, etc. When will we get a look at Trump's taxes he said he had no problem showing?
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SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 am
somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:23 am and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.
I don't get your point?
you don't? passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime committed by someone on the low end of the economic scale. thrown to the ground, knee on the neck, dead in the street. get back to me the next time you see a white collar tax evader (whose crime involves a hell of a lot more money than a $20 bill) get apprehended that way. you won't because police general kindly escort those individuals into custody where they then meet with their high end attorney and work the legal system to their benefit. it's a money thing, so money.
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Eroder wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm That settles it. Hoop is right!
Eroder wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:59 pm Hoop is right again!!
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:22 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 am
somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:23 am and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.
I don't get your point?
you don't? passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime committed by someone on the low end of the economic scale. thrown to the ground, knee on the neck, dead in the street. get back to me the next time you see a white collar tax evader (whose crime involves a hell of a lot more money than a $20 bill) get apprehended that way. you won't because police general kindly escort those individuals into custody where they then meet with their high end attorney and work the legal system to their benefit. it's a money thing, so money.
The crimes have no relationship, it is not apples to apples.

And sorry, but destabilizing the economy is a serious offence. It is likely he was cleaning the funny money for someone or a group. A lot of times this involves a foreign nation's intelligence services. Counterfeiting is as bad of a non violent crime as there is.

I also never said they handled Floyd properly, it is clearly 3rd Degree Homicide. It doesn't matter if he was ODing. There was a clear lack of regard to his condition and it's deterioration. But it is a crime that warrants the use of force if necessary and because of that something bad could happen.

I am making the point that a guy like Eric Garner selling lose cigarettes which shouldn't be a crime and what Floyd did should elicit different levels of outrage over the use of force.

You want to make the case cops treat black people differently in some circumstances, that is a case that can be made with some success. I said as much.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:22 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:01 am
Mplsfonz wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 am Who the hell are they going to move up the food chain to get?
I agree it is a crime, and needs to be addressed, but this is $20 not a suitcase full of hundo's.
There are far more crimes I think 4 police officers could use their time for. Give Floyd a ticket, let him go on his way. Warrant his ass later if needed.
But anyone who don't think blacks are treated much differently than whites, I will refer you to the coke vs crack law. Coke was cool when white people used it, then crack came out and dime bag users were getting life for it. Chavin is a 2020 Jim Crow.
I'm done with this topic.
You attempt to find the manufacturer, that is moving up the food chain i.e. the suitcase. And I don't think there are many if any more serious nonviolent crimes than counterfeiting.

A ticket? Fuck that noise. Put him in jail for 10-20 years or cut a deal if he can give you a bigger fish and cut off the supply. A ticket? Really? You don't get to destabilize the economy.

And if you think I am in favor of a police state, I think all drugs should be legal, that felons should be allowed to own guns, that you shouldn't need a license to drive ect.. So when the guy who wants very few laws, very few people in jail/prison for stupid shit, it should tell you something about the gravity of the crime.
10-20 years for a fake $20 bill? :lol: Floyd was gassed up, he probably had no ideal it was fake.

I suggest we go after REAL criminals that commit crimes like bilking millions of dollars with ponzi schemes, tax fraud, etc. When will we get a look at Trump's taxes he said he had no problem showing?
It really is quite literally Black and White.

But we are all Wolves fans, so no love lost. :beer:
Floyd was a REAL criminal!!!!!!

So are the people who run Ponzi schemes.

I don't care about taxes, people can take take their own risk with that, but they get the book thrown at them.

"Under federal law, the use or attempted use of counterfeit currency is illegal if the person has the intent to defraud the recipient. A conviction for the offense carries up to 20 years in prison and a fine."

You don't get the seriousness. Or the cumulative effect. You are talking millions of dollars. Upwards of $200 million. 450 billion globally.

No he didn't deserve the treatment he got.


Anyways, go wolves...3pm.
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Mplsfonz wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:37 pm And you think life should be taken over a fake 20 dollar bill. They could have handled it different. But your to busy passing judgement.
Again, the linkage between the conterfeit bill and getting killed that you and others make over and over and over again makes your opinions foolish. Stupid.

Listen, as I have stated over and over again, I completely support "defunding" the police. When the grocer calls because a person is passing a counterfeit 20, fuck them. Whne some has a traffic violation, fuck them. A woman is getting the shit kicked out of her by her boyfriend/husband, fuck them. Drugs, prostitution, assaults, thefts, robberies, car jackings, murder. Set up no-go zones in areas like Brooklyn Center, north Minneapolis and South Minneapolis and let them fend for themselves. That seems to be what they want, so give it to them.

The only mission law enforcement should have going forward is to contain this crime in these no-go zones. Escape from New York was set in the year 1997 and I would not even send Snake Plissken into these areas. I believe we are entering into an era in which this will be a reality.
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Good god some of you are stupid.

Fonz is right. So Money and Mlhouse are fucking assholes.
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somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:22 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 am
somuchyummy wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:23 am and when a white collar white criminal underreports earnings on $464,000 and owes $38,000 in taxes not paid - what happens to that guy when he's arrested? how many knees go on his neck for how long? charges btw that derek chauvin is also facing.
I don't get your point?
you don't? passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime committed by someone on the low end of the economic scale. thrown to the ground, knee on the neck, dead in the street. get back to me the next time you see a white collar tax evader (whose crime involves a hell of a lot more money than a $20 bill) get apprehended that way. you won't because police general kindly escort those individuals into custody where they then meet with their high end attorney and work the legal system to their benefit. it's a money thing, so money.
Bernie Madoff got 150 years for defrauding people out of $64.8B. That's $432,000,000/year. That's $1,183,561.64/day. That's $49,315.07/hour. That's $821.92/minute. That's $13.70/second.

By that standard, Floyd should have done about a second and a half in jail for his counterfeit $20 bill.
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What are we supposed to do if he was really passing counter fit bills? The business owner just takes it in the ass? Plus I'm guessing he was already on drugs from the sounds of it so that is a factor in trying to apprehend someone.

But lets just say, he wasn't on drugs. Saw some black cop on youtube said, no need to book him for something like this, you can just do, i forgot what he called it, a no-booking booking. Here's your paperwork, sign this for an appearance in court. I like that. But drugs? The city probably becomes liable if they let him loose and something happens.

It's pretty complex. There's what the law explicitly states should happen and the common sense way to handle it. Cops are given discretion, they don't ticket everyone they pull over for example.
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