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Favorite Wolves Bust You Thought Would Be Good

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SHAFA wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:04 am
YBBR wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 am I will remember that Wes Johnson dunk in the first quarter of his first game that was just vicious. Can't remember if it was his first two points or not. Excited for the possibilities that maybe this guy can do a few things! 20 games later.... Wes Johnson sucks. I felt like I was off that dude's bandwagon quicker that maybe any Wolves draft pick.
The one against the Kings?

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This is the one. Great dunk. Wes Johnson at his proverbial zenith here.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm
LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:49 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:18 pm

You don't watch a lot of NBA games outside of the Wolves, do you?

I know this isn't directed at me, but is something wrong with that? I don't watch any other games other than Wolves games. I don't really care about about the NBA, I only care about the Wolves.

I am sure there are many who only follow the Wolves and not the league, at least not actively.
Nothings wrong with it. I don’t watch much non-wolves anymore, but I did ten years ago.


In the context of the conversation I’m having about darko, it’s relevant. If you watched him at all in his career, you’d know what he was. If you didn’t, sure, you saw a legit 7-1 athletic big man and could be excited. If you watched that person actually play basketball, you knew better than to be happy.


So there’s nothing wrong at all about not watching the rest of the league. It just impedes your ability to have informed opinions about the rest of the players across said league.
Which is why I just go with the consensus on WC regarding any player, unless one person in particular makes an amazing argument. Remember how we ALL rated Oceanery's analysis? We were fools to ever trust Canis Hoopus!
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YBBR wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:04 pm
SHAFA wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:04 am
YBBR wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:02 am I will remember that Wes Johnson dunk in the first quarter of his first game that was just vicious. Can't remember if it was his first two points or not. Excited for the possibilities that maybe this guy can do a few things! 20 games later.... Wes Johnson sucks. I felt like I was off that dude's bandwagon quicker that maybe any Wolves draft pick.
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LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:46 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm
LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:49 pm

I know this isn't directed at me, but is something wrong with that? I don't watch any other games other than Wolves games. I don't really care about about the NBA, I only care about the Wolves.

I am sure there are many who only follow the Wolves and not the league, at least not actively.
Nothings wrong with it. I don’t watch much non-wolves anymore, but I did ten years ago.


In the context of the conversation I’m having about darko, it’s relevant. If you watched him at all in his career, you’d know what he was. If you didn’t, sure, you saw a legit 7-1 athletic big man and could be excited. If you watched that person actually play basketball, you knew better than to be happy.


So there’s nothing wrong at all about not watching the rest of the league. It just impedes your ability to have informed opinions about the rest of the players across said league.
Which is why I just go with the consensus on WC regarding any player, unless one person in particular makes an amazing argument. Remember how we ALL rated Oceanery's analysis? We were fools to ever trust Canis Hoopus!
I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm
LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:46 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm

Nothings wrong with it. I don’t watch much non-wolves anymore, but I did ten years ago.


In the context of the conversation I’m having about darko, it’s relevant. If you watched him at all in his career, you’d know what he was. If you didn’t, sure, you saw a legit 7-1 athletic big man and could be excited. If you watched that person actually play basketball, you knew better than to be happy.


So there’s nothing wrong at all about not watching the rest of the league. It just impedes your ability to have informed opinions about the rest of the players across said league.
Which is why I just go with the consensus on WC regarding any player, unless one person in particular makes an amazing argument. Remember how we ALL rated Oceanery's analysis? We were fools to ever trust Canis Hoopus!
I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
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Anyway, back on track.


While I would have never in a million years traded Cassell and a 1st for Marko Jaric, I did think that Jaric was going to be a pretty good player. I thought he could score a little, facilitate very well, and guard three positions.


That wasn't right.
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YBBR wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:42 pm McCants skill wise was actually pretty damn good, but again, 10 cent head might be generous in Rashad's case.
yeah I fell for McCants as well. I thought we were gonna be getting our version of the next Tmac here, instead we got Jr. Rider Jr.
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What a sad list. All types of positions and personalities come here to kill their careers.
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Stork311 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:02 pm Mike Miller. Never a more frustrating player. A shooter who simply refused to shoot. Maddening.
Yes, odd, so damn frustrating...
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That season and the next with Washington were legit his lowest 3pt attempts per 36.

Under the radar pick for the Wolves... Steph Marbury. Thought we had something great, then he said deuces.
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Interesting topic... I don't see Wiggins as a bust otherwise he'd probably be it.

Mike Miller is a good selection... everyone had high hopes for him coming in thinking he was ready to be the #2 guy behind Big Al.

Just looking at the draft alone.... if you consider Laettner a bust (he might be in the Wiggins camp though), he'd be up there... William Avery, had big time hopes from him out of Duke... huge bust. Derrick Williams of course.
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Hmmmmm...

I’d have to say Felton Spencer
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in terms of second round picks - i thought we absolutely got SOTDs in bracey wright, chris richard and keita bates-diop. still might be more to write in the bates-diop book, but boy was i wrong about wright and richards.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm
LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:46 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:44 pm

Nothings wrong with it. I don’t watch much non-wolves anymore, but I did ten years ago.


In the context of the conversation I’m having about darko, it’s relevant. If you watched him at all in his career, you’d know what he was. If you didn’t, sure, you saw a legit 7-1 athletic big man and could be excited. If you watched that person actually play basketball, you knew better than to be happy.


So there’s nothing wrong at all about not watching the rest of the league. It just impedes your ability to have informed opinions about the rest of the players across said league.
Which is why I just go with the consensus on WC regarding any player, unless one person in particular makes an amazing argument. Remember how we ALL rated Oceanery's analysis? We were fools to ever trust Canis Hoopus!
I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
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flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:12 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm
LordNu wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:46 pm

Which is why I just go with the consensus on WC regarding any player, unless one person in particular makes an amazing argument. Remember how we ALL rated Oceanery's analysis? We were fools to ever trust Canis Hoopus!
I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
That’s the one.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:18 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:12 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm

I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
That’s the one.
Figured.

He was so influential with that article that he inspired a rube to DVR all of DOrko's games :lol:
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flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:18 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
That’s the one.
Figured.

He was so influential with that article that he inspired a rube to DVR all of DOrko's games :lol:
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Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:18 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:12 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:56 pm

I was never quite on the Canis Hoopus train like others were. Great place for info/speculation, but it was very "wolves-colored glasses" in my opinion.

I think the Darko piece may have been the only Oceanary article I ever read. I don't see why I should read another after reading that one.
Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
That’s the one.
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HeHateMe wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:41 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:18 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Was the Dorko article the one where Oceanary killed it? Or was that for another one?
That’s the one.
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I'm going Wiggins. At the time I thought we jobbed Clev and stole a GREAT player for KL considering he was out. Looked at all his HL films and knew he would excel. Bust. Did anyone notice he NEVER broke a sweat. I thought that was odd, but then I seen he didn't really give a F.
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Draft pick: Derrick Williams

Trade: Mike Miller

Free agent signing: Mike James
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McCants for sure.
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D_H wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:28 pm Hmmmmm...

I’d have to say Felton Spencer
This one's interesting. Was he supposed to be good? Was he bad? He was who I thought he was, but that was a young Rusty

Felton was the Wolves player that went to a Badketball camp in Bloomington when I was 10 or so. I thought it was the coolest thing ever meeting him :beer:
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And no other love for Loren Woods!? I thought he'd get a couple votes :beer:
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somuchyummy wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:20 pm in terms of second round picks - i thought we absolutely got SOTDs in bracey wright, chris richard and keita bates-diop. still might be more to write in the bates-diop book, but boy was i wrong about wright and richards.
Chris Richard for me too. I can't really call a 2nd rounder a bust, but more of a "thought we got a steal and didn't" for me.
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I really hope Naz doesn't fall on this list, because I've got high hopes for him :beer:
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Rusty Kuntz wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:26 pm And no other love for Loren Woods!? I thought he'd get a couple votes :beer:
I thought he was a steal when we got him in the 2nd round. He was consistently projected as a lottery pick.
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Rusty Kuntz wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:30 pm I really hope Naz doesn't fall on this list, because I've got high hopes for him :beer:
he won't. i think there should be a rule that any undrafted guys playing in the league can never be thought of as busts.
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oh god, just thought of one. really really loved the idea of this player and man, did it ever not work out. again, this is someone who technically can't be thought of as a bust for us - because we got him nearly already washed up (former first rounder), but god did he have potential. eddie griffin. RIP. and there were flashes to be seen when he was with us - you could see the talent.
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Hoop Dreams wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:40 pm
Rusty Kuntz wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:26 pm And no other love for Loren Woods!? I thought he'd get a couple votes :beer:
I thought he was a steal when we got him in the 2nd round. He was consistently projected as a lottery pick.
Didn't he have a Rick Rickert thing? Like he was a projected lotto pick and went back to school for another year and fell out of the first round?
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