Wolves trade for Ed Davis

[Beef Supreme]

Can he play DT for Vikings?

[Style]

Can he play DT for Vikings?

Yes.

[Philo Beddoe]

I don’t think the MLE works like that.



Or are you talking about under the tax line?

Under tax

Copy that.


I think you’re right.



But we could still use the full MLE if we’re willing to go into the tax, right? I’m not sure there’s anyone left that’s worth it and I’m not sure Glen wants to pay the tax. Just sayin.

I don't think it's about paying the tax.. if we are over by a million I don't think it's a money issue... I think it's more about the penalties that come with being a tax payer.

This team is not seeing cap space for the foreseeable future. We are going to need all of the MLE

[Style]

Why are we always giving away picks?

This guy sucks.

[j2j]

They had 4 million left to spend after Juancho. Trading Omari Spellman & Jacob Evans gets you another 4 million for 8 million total. Ed Davis contract is for 5 million.

Timberwolves have 3 million left and one roster spot open to potentially resign Jordan McLaughlin JMAC.

No idea what you are trying to say.

Wolves had 11 million to spend after the Bradley resigning before hitting the tax line which they want to avoid the repeater tax.

They signed Juancho for 7 million so they had 4 million remaining to spend. Trading Spellman and Evans frees up 4 million combined with our 4 million makes 8 million total. Ed Davis makes 5 million so our remaining cap to spend is 3 million.

Wolves have 14 players on roster and still have that 3 million to resign Jmac.

Correct.

Hopefully we can find an athletic big for that second 2-way deal. Someone who can defend, block shots, rebound.

Donta Hall, who SMY has been pimping, sounds like an excellent option.

[Style]

Go get Hassan Whiteside.

[Beef Supreme]

Under tax

Copy that.


I think you’re right.



But we could still use the full MLE if we’re willing to go into the tax, right? I’m not sure there’s anyone left that’s worth it and I’m not sure Glen wants to pay the tax. Just sayin.

I don't think it's about paying the tax.. if we are over by a million I don't think it's a money issue... I think it's more about the penalties that come with being a tax payer.

This team is not seeing cap space for the foreseeable future. We are going to need all of the MLE

They penalties are money, right?


I’m not disagreeing with you.

[somuchyummy]

We don’t suck anymore?

Ed is bringing is massive 1.8ppg to the wolves.

hey boballooey. 2 years ago ed played about 18 mins per game and also had an 18 rebs per 36. teams generally like ed.

[somuchyummy]

No idea what you are trying to say.

Wolves had 11 million to spend after the Bradley resigning before hitting the tax line which they want to avoid the repeater tax.

They signed Juancho for 7 million so they had 4 million remaining to spend. Trading Spellman and Evans frees up 4 million combined with our 4 million makes 8 million total. Ed Davis makes 5 million so our remaining cap to spend is 3 million.

Wolves have 14 players on roster and still have that 3 million to resign Jmac.

Correct.

Hopefully we can find an athletic big for that second 2-way deal. Someone who can defend, block shots, rebound.

Donta Hall, who SMY has been pimping, sounds like an excellent option.

why thank you j2j for that positive note.

[mlhouse]

With the signing of Beasley and Hernangomez, the Wolves have 9 guaranteed contracts on the books - Towns, Russell, Rubio, Beasley, Hernangomez, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie. 2020-21 total cap hit for 9 contracts: $ 112,633,143

Rookie Contracts assuming Bulmaro stays in Europe:
Anthony Edwards salary hit: $9,757.440
Jaden McDaniels salary hit: $1,964,760

Total 11 players under contract with total cap hit: $124,355,343

Dead Cap: Cole Aldrich $685,340

Total Cap As it Stands: $125,040,683

Luxury Tax Level: $132,627,000

Leaves roughly $7.6 million to fill out the roster.

Naz Reid, Jaylen Norwll, and Jarred Vanderbilt have non-guaranteed deals that total $4,699,823.

[UnFadeable21]

With the signing of Beasley and Hernangomez, the Wolves have 9 guaranteed contracts on the books - Towns, Russell, Rubio, Beasley, Hernangomez, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie. 2020-21 total cap hit for 9 contracts: $ 112,633,143

Rookie Contracts assuming Bulmaro stays in Europe:
Anthony Edwards salary hit: $9,757.440
Jaden McDaniels salary hit: $1,964,760

Total 11 players under contract with total cap hit: $124,355,343

Dead Cap: Cole Aldrich $685,340

Total Cap As it Stands: $125,040,683

Luxury Tax Level: $132,627,000

Leaves roughly $7.6 million to fill out the roster.

Naz Reid, Jaylen Norwll, and Jarred Vanderbilt have non-guaranteed deals that total $4,699,823.

Those 3 guys are staying and that gives us 3 million to resign Jmac

[somuchyummy]

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[Philo Beddoe]

Copy that.


I think you’re right.



But we could still use the full MLE if we’re willing to go into the tax, right? I’m not sure there’s anyone left that’s worth it and I’m not sure Glen wants to pay the tax. Just sayin.

I don't think it's about paying the tax.. if we are over by a million I don't think it's a money issue... I think it's more about the penalties that come with being a tax payer.

This team is not seeing cap space for the foreseeable future. We are going to need all of the MLE

They penalties are money, right?


I’m not disagreeing with you.

Yes, but also effects your MLE amounts I think. This year MLE for tax payers was just under $6 million.. compared to $9 million for everyone else

[Beef Supreme]

I don't think it's about paying the tax.. if we are over by a million I don't think it's a money issue... I think it's more about the penalties that come with being a tax payer.

This team is not seeing cap space for the foreseeable future. We are going to need all of the MLE

They penalties are money, right?


I’m not disagreeing with you.

Yes, but also effects your MLE amounts I think. This year MLE for tax payers was just under $6 million.. compared to $9 million for everyone else

Copy.



I know the old CBA rules pretty well. But since they added the lux tax and penalties and all that, I’m a little lost on specifics. I get the general idea.

[swenjj]

I don't think it's about paying the tax.. if we are over by a million I don't think it's a money issue... I think it's more about the penalties that come with being a tax payer.

This team is not seeing cap space for the foreseeable future. We are going to need all of the MLE

They penalties are money, right?


I’m not disagreeing with you.

Yes, but also effects your MLE amounts I think. This year MLE for tax payers was just under $6 million.. compared to $9 million for everyone else

I saw something tonight about us using the mle..said if we use the mle we are hard capped and can't bring salary in later if we find a big trade..I thought that was only if you do a sign and trade.so many random rules

[Philo Beddoe]

Maybe we will finally find out what Omaris problem was.. someone keep an eye on his Instagram

[SO_MONEY]

The NYKs received TWO seconds for taking on his salary, they agreed to pay the remaining salary, Now they get Spellman, Evans and a third 2nd. I am sure NY is paying him and he isn't worth this on its face, if we needed to pay him we would have got something back. So my guess is they waive him and sign a player or he will be used as salary filler in a trade that doesn't cost a dime for the other team.

Are you saying you think we will move or waive Davis?

I think trade is most likely once he can be combined with other players. He is likely an expiring contract the team who trades for him won't have to pay, meaning they would get instant savings. Worst case the deal saves Glen $4mil.

[SHAFA]

Maybe we will finally find out what Omaris problem was.. someone keep an eye on his Instagram

I knew that dudes time here was limited the second he was sent to Iowa. Dude seemed like a train wreck.

[somuchyummy]

Maybe we will finally find out what Omaris problem was.. someone keep an eye on his Instagram

not sure if we'll ever get the whole story at this point. but apparently he had a significant snit explosion when he got here - and this offended rosas, who then probably had a smaller internal snit implosion over it - and because of that spellman was sent to the iowa gulag. and if that's the case, then boo hoo poor gersson. it's probably something that could have been smoothed over with some common sense talks from a more levelheaded GM - but i guess something else happened instead.

[Bob Wiley]

I am sure glad the Wolves locker room will be so wonderful. They can feel really close after losing games.

I like the move by the Knicks. They got 2 2nd round picks from Utah to take Davis, then trade Davis to Minnesota and got a 3rd. While it isn't much, they also saved $1 million. Plus, I think they got by far the best value in the trade in Omari Spellman.

Ed Davis is a 1990's front court player. A 56% free throw shooter. He has attempted 4 3 point shots in his career. He doesn't space the floor. He is a good rebounder but in the NBA if you do not space the floor rebounding is a marginal stat. There is a reason why he is on his 8th team in his career.

What should the Wolves have done to go to the finals since they didn’t do what you wanted, which is obviously the right way.

[RubeTube]

Yawn.

[SHAFA]

Maybe we will finally find out what Omaris problem was.. someone keep an eye on his Instagram

not sure if we'll ever get the whole story at this point. but apparently he had a significant snit explosion when he got here - and this offended rosas, who then probably had a smaller internal snit implosion over it - and because of that spellman was sent to the iowa gulag. and if that's the case, then boo hoo poor gersson. it's probably something that could have been smoothed over with some common sense talks from a more levelheaded GM - but i guess something else happened instead.

I don’t think they ever had any plans long-term for Spellman. He threw a shit fit, just like he did after being dealt from Atlanta, and rather than infect the locker room they just sent him to Iowa.

Dude is clearly fragile and admittedly self-sabotages. Why bother.

[Bob Wiley]

We don’t suck anymore?

Ed is bringing is massive 1.8ppg to the wolves.

hey boballooey. 2 years ago ed played about 18 mins per game and also had an 18 rebs per 36. teams generally like ed.

That’s great! We need rim protection and rebounding.

[SO_MONEY]

Maybe we will finally find out what Omaris problem was.. someone keep an eye on his Instagram

not sure if we'll ever get the whole story at this point. but apparently he had a significant snit explosion when he got here - and this offended rosas, who then probably had a smaller internal snit implosion over it - and because of that spellman was sent to the iowa gulag. and if that's the case, then boo hoo poor gersson. it's probably something that could have been smoothed over with some common sense talks from a more levelheaded GM - but i guess something else happened instead.

I don’t think they ever had any plans long-term for Spellman. He threw a shit fit, just like he did after being dealt from Atlanta, and rather than infect the locker room they just sent him to Iowa.

Dude is clearly fragile and admittedly self-sabotages. Why bother.

Well they sent him home to NY, good on us, probably not bitching now.

[shoteh]

Got a big that wants to play
Got rid of a big that does not want to play

I'd say that's a win in my book

[j2j]

No one is paying Ed Davis to score. We're good there. He'll just come in for his ~15mpg to defend and rebound, which he's phenomenal at, especially offensive boards. And with how well we chuck the ball, might as well be passes for Davis tip-ins.

[mlhouse]

With the signing of Beasley and Hernangomez, the Wolves have 9 guaranteed contracts on the books - Towns, Russell, Rubio, Beasley, Hernangomez, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie. 2020-21 total cap hit for 9 contracts: $ 112,633,143

Rookie Contracts assuming Bulmaro stays in Europe:
Anthony Edwards salary hit: $9,757.440
Jaden McDaniels salary hit: $1,964,760

Total 11 players under contract with total cap hit: $124,355,343

Dead Cap: Cole Aldrich $685,340

Total Cap As it Stands: $125,040,683

Luxury Tax Level: $132,627,000

Leaves roughly $7.6 million to fill out the roster.

Naz Reid, Jaylen Norwll, and Jarred Vanderbilt have non-guaranteed deals that total $4,699,823.

Those 3 guys are staying and that gives us 3 million to resign Jmac

I would find it hard to believe that they keep Nowell and then sign McLaughlin. With the over load of guards that would be a mistake.

[jodaman01]

No one is paying Ed Davis to score. We're good there. He'll just come in for his ~15mpg to defend and rebound, which he's phenomenal at, especially offensive boards. And with how well we chuck the ball, might as well be passes for Davis tip-ins.

All the clanged threes here will be like a whole season of Thanksgivings for him to feast off of. He’ll be livin’ off some FAT STATS!!

GO WOLVES!!

[mlhouse]

The NYKs received TWO seconds for taking on his salary, they agreed to pay the remaining salary, Now they get Spellman, Evans and a third 2nd. I am sure NY is paying him and he isn't worth this on its face, if we needed to pay him we would have got something back. So my guess is they waive him and sign a player or he will be used as salary filler in a trade that doesn't cost a dime for the other team.

Are you saying you think we will move or waive Davis?

I think trade is most likely once he can be combined with other players. He is likely an expiring contract the team who trades for him won't have to pay, meaning they would get instant savings. Worst case the deal saves Glen $4mil.

I would not put it past a Timberwolve GM to give up a 2nd round pick for a player and then waive him. It is doubtful that they acquired Davis just to use him in a deal becasue they could have just used the players they traded to acquire him instead.

[j2j]

No one is paying Ed Davis to score. We're good there. He'll just come in for his ~15mpg to defend and rebound, which he's phenomenal at, especially offensive boards. And with how well we chuck the ball, might as well be passes for Davis tip-ins.

All the clanged threes here will be like a whole season of Thanksgivings for him to feast off of. He’ll be livin’ off some FAT STATS!!

GO WOLVES!!

Might put up career high scoring because of it.