Edwards was clearly the best fit for the Wolves out of the top three prospects and he has All-NBA scoring potential, but he's anything but a sure thing. Bolmaro and McDaniels are both exciting young prospects, but none of Minnesota's picks do anything to address its atrocious defense. Grade: B-
While I think it’s fair to ding the Wolves’ picks for not being great defensive players, I think it’s silly to expect any rookie 19 or 20-year old to come into the nba and be a defensive asset. Sure, it can happen, but it’s the exception and not the rule. Edwards had good defensive upside if he can be reached. McDaniels will probably never be able to hang with beefy big, but has the length and athleticism to be a plus defender on the wing and add something as a weak side shot-blocker. Neither might ever become that, but they have the physical tools.
No idea about Bolmona’s defensive upside.
Ricky Rubio will help this team defensively as much as any rookie they could have drafted.
I don’t think B- is unfair, but I think the rationale is silly.
“When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent.”
Beef Supreme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:36 pm
While I think it’s fair to ding the Wolves’ picks for not being great defensive players, I think it’s silly to expect any rookie 19 or 20-year old to come into the nba and be a defensive asset. Sure, it can happen, but it’s the exception and not the rule. Edwards had good defensive upside if he can be reached. McDaniels will probably never be able to hang with beefy big, but has the length and athleticism to be a plus defender on the wing and add something as a weak side shot-blocker. Neither might ever become that, but they have the physical tools.
No idea about Bolmona’s defensive upside.
Ricky Rubio will help this team defensively as much as any rookie they could have drafted.
I don’t think B- is unfair, but I think the rationale is silly.
It’s just for fun The reality is no one really knows for sure until three years from now.
Beef Supreme wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:36 pm
While I think it’s fair to ding the Wolves’ picks for not being great defensive players, I think it’s silly to expect any rookie 19 or 20-year old to come into the nba and be a defensive asset. Sure, it can happen, but it’s the exception and not the rule. Edwards had good defensive upside if he can be reached. McDaniels will probably never be able to hang with beefy big, but has the length and athleticism to be a plus defender on the wing and add something as a weak side shot-blocker. Neither might ever become that, but they have the physical tools.
No idea about Bolmona’s defensive upside.
Ricky Rubio will help this team defensively as much as any rookie they could have drafted.
I don’t think B- is unfair, but I think the rationale is silly.
It’s just for fun The reality is no one really knows for sure until three years from now.
For sure. I just think the take that the Wolves should have emerged from the draft with guys that will help their defense immediately is silly. That almost never happens. You should count yourself extremely lucky if your 19 year-old rookie is even league average on defense his first year.
“When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent.”
"Edwards was clearly the best fit for the Wolves out of the top three prospects and he has All-NBA scoring potential, but he's anything but a sure thing."
None of the prospects were sure things though. This guy said he had Ball rated as the #1 prospect, but my response to that is he's far from a sure thing either.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
Oriole81 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:46 pm"Edwards was clearly the best fit for the Wolves out of the top three prospects and he has All-NBA scoring potential, but he's anything but a sure thing."
None of the prospects were sure things though. This guy said he had Ball rated as the #1 prospect, but my response to that is he's far from a sure thing either.
Ball and Wiseman are more of a sure thing imo as far as becoming at the very least, contributors.
Obviously you are hoping for more but I think they at least give you that. Where Edturds is either the next Wade or out of the league in a few years.
Reminds me of the Bennett pick.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
Oriole81 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:46 pm"Edwards was clearly the best fit for the Wolves out of the top three prospects and he has All-NBA scoring potential, but he's anything but a sure thing."
None of the prospects were sure things though. This guy said he had Ball rated as the #1 prospect, but my response to that is he's far from a sure thing either.
Ball and Wiseman are more of a sure thing imo as far as becoming at the very least, contributors.
Obviously you are hoping for more but I think they at least give you that. Where Edturds is either the next Wade or out of the league in a few years.
Reminds me of the Bennett pick.
I agree with what you say, but I don't think that was the writer's intent nor do I think that should be the goal.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
This would have been a great draft had they kept #17 and traded down to maybe snag Toppin or Hali. However, I don't believe the Wolves had enough ammo to make that move.
Joda is saying Rosas is still "Star hunting" with what assets?
I think from all reports the Wolves wanted to move back in the top 10 but what it shows me is Culver has about no worth in a trade and that doesn't surprise me.
This team has 3 players with true value. Kat, Dlo and Edturds. They already tried to net a star with #1 and couldn't and they are not trading the other two.
You would be lucky to get a bag of balls back for the rest of the roster.
“We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us.”
— Malcolm X
two other teams also got Bminuses - and three other teams graded out worse. so... only 24 teams above us in terms of draft grade according to cbs. and quite a feat, i may add - starting out the night with three of the top 33 picks including the number one.
There is little difference between the memory of a real event and the memory of a dream.
I mean, again, if there was no trade back....I feel like that's a fair grade, and that's not even grading adding Ricky. You take arguably the best talent you think is in the draft, you draft and stash a project, and you take a project big to groom in G league. We turned two first rounders and a third into three first rounders and a starting caliber player on a veteran lacking team. It's not a killer draft, but I don't understand the gloom over last night.
Oriole81 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:46 pm"Edwards was clearly the best fit for the Wolves out of the top three prospects and he has All-NBA scoring potential, but he's anything but a sure thing."
None of the prospects were sure things though. This guy said he had Ball rated as the #1 prospect, but my response to that is he's far from a sure thing either.
Ball and Wiseman are more of a sure thing imo as far as becoming at the very least, contributors.
Obviously you are hoping for more but I think they at least give you that. Where Edturds is either the next Wade or out of the league in a few years.
Reminds me of the Bennett pick.
You are gonna be the guy that said Jordan is no Sam Bowie.
I mean, again, if there was no trade back....I feel like that's a fair grade, and that's not even grading adding Ricky. You take arguably the best talent you think is in the draft, you draft and stash a project, and you take a project big to groom in G league. We turned two first rounders and a third into three first rounders and a starting caliber player on a veteran lacking team. It's not a killer draft, but I don't understand the gloom over last night.
It wasn’t that bad, people are cooling off. After learning more about the Bolermo and McDaniels picks and seeing the videos and reading “outsiders” analysis” it looks like the Wolves did some real homework. As with all of these players - who the hell knows, but it’s easier to hope for the best right now than go apeshit.
They need to do something at PF, they have a few chances here to address it, if they do nothing....then I will vent.
Only Okongwu would immediately address our defensive issues, maybe you could argue Okoru. However, if that's s B- so be it. I think the McDaniels pick was very good, we've got a euro asset and Edwards, like all picks, are far from a sure thing lol. What a great write up, like people know. If Edwards reaches his potential, he's a perfectly fine pick...just like any player that rises to the top after they've been drafted.
OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:24 pm
Docking a team for not addressing defense is weird in the draft.
Remember when KAT was going to anchor a defense?
i don't know if i agree with that. some "sure things" become sure things - no quotes needed. matisse thybulle and brandon clarke have both kicked ass way above their pay grade - my guess is that both okongwu and okoro are going to be impactful as well.
There is little difference between the memory of a real event and the memory of a dream.
OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:24 pm
Docking a team for not addressing defense is weird in the draft.
Remember when KAT was going to anchor a defense?
i don't know if i agree with that. some "sure things" become sure things - no quotes needed. matisse thybulle and brandon clarke have both kicked ass way above their pay grade - my guess is that both okongwu and okoro are going to be impactful as well.
Sure, some. Meaning there are a number that don't.
Rubio was going to be a horrendous defender but has been a good team defender since day 1.
With the recent additions the Wolves and Rosas have jumped to an A- minus for me, this roster is full of REAL NBA talent.
Rosas appears to have no respect for the PF position or is just building up enough decent trade assets to move along with Beasley, Jauncho, Okogie or Culver to get an Aaron Gordon level PF in trade.
To complain about where this Wolves roster is from where it was when THIBBS was thrown out is straight up idiocy.
Even without a move for a PF, I think it’s going to be a good season for the Wolves.
