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Hoop Dreams wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:54 am
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:57 am
T_J wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:54 am

Portland just got him. 1 year deal.
Saw that. I'm weeping right now.

Good franchises make good moves and attract good players. Shit franchises do the opposite.
Was the tweet deleted?
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j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:48 pm
Hoop Dreams wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:54 am
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:57 am

Saw that. I'm weeping right now.

Good franchises make good moves and attract good players. Shit franchises do the opposite.
Was the tweet deleted?
Yeah. Here it is again.

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Free agency signing day,I put 12 hours of work in,come and look online and see our pf position is still Vanderbilt and McDaniels.. hopefully Rosas has a trade in the works .looking at the leftovers here.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm Edwards Negatives:

Low IQ
Low Motor
Bad Shot Selection
Bad defense

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j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:10 am Omari has a usable skillset, I hope he gets a chance. High IQ, plays team ball, can shoot it, pass it... but not a huge help on defense.
He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
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mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:10 am Omari has a usable skillset, I hope he gets a chance. High IQ, plays team ball, can shoot it, pass it... but not a huge help on defense.
He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
Agreed.

Especially as they were deliberately tanking anyway.
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swenjj wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:37 pm Free agency signing day,I put 12 hours of work in,come and look online and see our pf position is still Vanderbilt and McDaniels.. hopefully Rosas has a trade in the works .looking at the leftovers here.
McDaniels is a 3. Not that the Wolves would know that.

Spellman is good and on the team. Not that the Wolves would know that.

PF is a position used in basketball. You know the rest.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:37 pm
What a joke. Good enough to trade, not good enough to be easily our best PF right now.

Anyone still want to laugh at me saying too tall about everyone?
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Hoop Dreams wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:49 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:48 pm
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Was the tweet deleted?
Yeah. Here it is again.

Yeah. I think given consistent minutes he could blow up.
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mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:10 am Omari has a usable skillset, I hope he gets a chance. High IQ, plays team ball, can shoot it, pass it... but not a huge help on defense.
He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
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j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:10 am Omari has a usable skillset, I hope he gets a chance. High IQ, plays team ball, can shoot it, pass it... but not a huge help on defense.
He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
Golden St. put Jacobs and Spellman specifically to get under the luxury tax threshold. That is part of the business of the NBA.

And Spellman is a moron to be upset about being traded. He was traded from a team that he probably had zero future with once they stopped tanking, to a team he could have worked hard, got even more time on the court, and made himself a NBA future in which his next contract could have been 8 figures a year. Not saying he was going to, just that was the opportunity he threw away by pouting.

And even if he was a bitch to Rosas, you still put the guy on the court and see what you have.
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mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:36 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm

He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
Golden St. put Jacobs and Spellman specifically to get under the luxury tax threshold. That is part of the business of the NBA.

And Spellman is a moron to be upset about being traded. He was traded from a team that he probably had zero future with once they stopped tanking, to a team he could have worked hard, got even more time on the court, and made himself a NBA future in which his next contract could have been 8 figures a year. Not saying he was going to, just that was the opportunity he threw away by pouting.

And even if he was a bitch to Rosas, you still put the guy on the court and see what you have.
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Bates-Diop released by Nuggets.

Bring him back?

Not spectacular, but....?
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Philo Beddoe wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:10 pm Bates-Diop released by Nuggets.

Bring him back?

Not spectacular, but....?
He's alright. Probably wouldn't want much. There's a little something there with him. His consistency is lacking. But he may just need some PT. I like his skillset.
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j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:10 am Omari has a usable skillset, I hope he gets a chance. High IQ, plays team ball, can shoot it, pass it... but not a huge help on defense.
He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
you know what? rosas is new kid on the block too. he doesn't have nearly the gravitas at this point to be offended enough to banish a pouty player who could help the team. if that's what's going on, then gersson seriously needs to grow up and be a big league GM.
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https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/11/2 ... r-forward/

Two options..John Collins would be nice.but not giving up Culver and a future first unless we know he signs here.

But a rubio-russell-edwards-collins-towns lineup would be fun to watch..with beasely and okogie still there as well.

Make the pick to the warriors worth a bit less
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swenjj wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:21 pm https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/11/2 ... r-forward/

Two options..John Collins would be nice.but not giving up Culver and a future first unless we know he signs here.
And Collins isn’t a great fit with Towns. He’s not good defensively. So that would be two bad defensive bigs you’re paying big money to(future). And bigs greatest value in today’s NBA is their defensive ability, unless they’re elite offensive players like KAT, Jokic, or Embiid. Collins isn’t.
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somuchyummy wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:18 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:06 pm

He may, or he may not. The real stupidity is a team that is cruising to a winning percentage under 30% acquiring a former first round pick like Spellman with a "usable" skillset and then just banishing him. It might have been a different story if his contract was expiring at the end of the season. But GSW had picked up his 3rd year option so he had a guaranteed deal for 2020-21.

So, the correct thing to do was put him on the court. Give him minutes. With Golden St he average 18 minutes a game, 15.0 points and 8.9 rebounds/36 and shot 39.1% from 3. He is a career 36.6% 3 point shooter on 5.1 3-attempts/36 (those are better shooting percentages thatn Hernangomez) . I don't give a shit if he is "pouting". That guy goes on the court and you see if he can duplicate those results. I would even argue that you put Spellman in the starting role with Hernangomez coming off the bench.

Then you find out. Does the guy put up or shut up? If he puts up, you might think about keeping him in 2020-21 and find a role for him. Or, you might improve his trade value to a team looking for a stretch-4/5 guy off the bench or to develop. The place you develop the value of your assets IS ON THE NBA COURT IN REAL NBA GAMES. If he shuts up, then you know he can't play. You try to dump his contract in some deal and failing that ( FAIL is the middle name of the Minnesota Timberwolves) you just put him back in Iowa, say no to his 2021 option and move on.
100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
you know what? rosas is new kid on the block too. he doesn't have nearly the gravitas at this point to be offended enough to banish a pouty player who could help the team. if that's what's going on, then gersson seriously needs to grow up and be a big league GM.
Wouldn't it be nice if we had local reporters that actually looked into things about the wolves and reported it?
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:26 pm
swenjj wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:21 pm https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/11/2 ... r-forward/

Two options..John Collins would be nice.but not giving up Culver and a future first unless we know he signs here.
And Collins isn’t a great fit with Towns. He’s not good defensively. So that would be two bad defensive bigs you’re paying big money to(future). And bigs greatest value in today’s NBA is their defensive ability, unless they’re elite offensive players like KAT, Jokic, or Embiid. Collins isn’t.
Well the Hawks also have okongwu..that would be great.but I think we will have what we have now. Maybe a trade towards the deadline but an awkward lineup to showcase anyone .and not a throw away year here either.no pick next year so we should try and win. Get something done now.
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swenjj wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:27 pm
somuchyummy wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:18 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm

100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
you know what? rosas is new kid on the block too. he doesn't have nearly the gravitas at this point to be offended enough to banish a pouty player who could help the team. if that's what's going on, then gersson seriously needs to grow up and be a big league GM.
Wouldn't it be nice if we had local reporters that actually looked into things about the wolves and reported it?
They were pretty busy last year writing 5000 words on the home visit Rosas had to eat Glen's wife's lasagna. That's what our local media has to offer.
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swenjj wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:27 pm
somuchyummy wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:18 pm
j2j wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:29 pm

100% agreed.

The only thing that could make sense is if he acted like a bitch towards Rosas after the trade, and Rosas just said fuck it, enjoy the G League. Obviously that would be poorly handled by everyone, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anything other than that is just shitty dealing by our front office.
you know what? rosas is new kid on the block too. he doesn't have nearly the gravitas at this point to be offended enough to banish a pouty player who could help the team. if that's what's going on, then gersson seriously needs to grow up and be a big league GM.
Wouldn't it be nice if we had local reporters that actually looked into things about the wolves and reported it?
exactly. lots of chatter about it among fans but apparently some taboo subject that local sports media can't dip their toes into. sucks.
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They're more worried about keeping their credentials than honest reporting.
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I really want to have the Spellman situation covered. Anyone able to do some undercover reporting? We need that Mike guy who fooled TSpence.

If this guy can play AND there is a chance that this situation can be resolved, voila.
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Does any local sports media jack each other off more than ours does by the way? Every time there is some story they all rally together on twitter to talk about how awesome it was and how that’s what journalists are for! It’s just hilarious. I’m just pissed today and absolutely taking it out on the media lol
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:30 pm Does any local sports media jack each other off more than ours does by the way? Every time there is some story they all rally together on twitter to talk about how awesome it was and how that’s what journalists are for! It’s just hilarious. I’m just pissed today and absolutely taking it out on the media lol
I doubt it. Our local guys are all a joke. Every move is a good one.
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if you haven't already, read jace's glowing feature today about edwards. pi press. and yes, one of the main takeaways is that he has .... wait for it.... a really great smile.
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LordNu wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:24 pm I really want to have the Spellman situation covered. Anyone able to do some undercover reporting? We need that Mike guy who fooled TSpence.

If this guy can play AND there is a chance that this situation can be resolved, voila.
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Sid Hartman wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:15 pm
LordNu wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:24 pm I really want to have the Spellman situation covered. Anyone able to do some undercover reporting? We need that Mike guy who fooled TSpence.

If this guy can play AND there is a chance that this situation can be resolved, voila.
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somuchyummy wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:12 pm if you haven't already, read jace's glowing feature today about edwards. pi press. and yes, one of the main takeaways is that he has .... wait for it.... a really great smile.
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