Agree, Former wolves are cursed, need new people that may bring in new culture.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:00 amBoy what a shit sandwich.KATMANDUDE wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:50 pmdigitalwolf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:56 pm
He had his moments....some where you're like, damn, this guy has a lot of tools....and then a lot of Kris Dunn like fuck ups on the court. I'd say the latter is just being with a new team, new role, but he does fill a need. However, he also fills a need with his salary....it's hard to fathom him not being dealt if they are really looking hard at adding a bigger 3rd piece then just filling out with the draft. I wouldn't mind if he was our starting PF, but I don't think he has the juice to play that for a whole season, and like you, I'd be surprised if he's not used as filler for a bigger deal.
Couple weeks ago, Rosas was asked about Wolves needs. He mentioned a guy who could defend at a high level at both guard spots. I immediately thought of Kris Dunn, who could be had using the MLE.
Finished the year second in Defensive Box Plus/Minus (to Giannis) and first in Steal Pct.
That last few days I've read in WC to bring Lolvine back and now Done.
Getting the old band back together for a 35 win season!
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2020 NBA Offseason Preview: Minnesota Timberwolves
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i don't know if anyone has suggested using a first round pick for another PG. but if tre jones was there at 33, we could certainly do worse than adding a 6-3 floor general with nba athleticism and some of the best backcourt D in college ball.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:57 pmI find it beyond unreasonable to use a 1st round pick on a 3rd PG.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:35 ambut we could use a third PG on the team. that's not unreasonable - and there are going to be some very good ones available at 33. i haven't been big on jones - but have changed my mind. however, seeing as it just came out that he's got a 40" vert (he is not his brother), i don't think he'll last till 33 anymore. but, yeah, a floor general who's 6-3, has pro athleticism and is perhaps the best defensive PG in the draft? it would be a good get. and, yes, i'd have him behind jmac on the depth chart - and probably in iowa quite a bit.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:02 am
JMac is only a really good defender and a way better 3 shooter than Russell with a way better assist to TO ratio. All he really does is play like his hair is on fire every minute all over the floor at a really efficient rate. Oh, he also makes everyone better with his play and infectious energy.
I can see why everyone "appreciates" him but wants to get rid of him.
You know full well how much I love this PG crop. Well we just gave up a shit load in assets and are paying a shit load of money for a PG and got 100% lucky to have been forced to play JMac so we could find out he's good;. How could you possibly justify another asset being used at that position?
On paper it will hurt letting 10 of these PG's go. But our path 100% is UDFA. There will be good one's left to develop.
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If we want Tre, it might have to be at 17. He's flying up the boards per something I read somewhere.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:54 pmi don't know if anyone has suggested using a first round pick for another PG. but if tre jones was there at 33, we could certainly do worse than adding a 6-3 floor general with nba athleticism and some of the best backcourt D in college ball.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:57 pmI find it beyond unreasonable to use a 1st round pick on a 3rd PG.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:35 am
but we could use a third PG on the team. that's not unreasonable - and there are going to be some very good ones available at 33. i haven't been big on jones - but have changed my mind. however, seeing as it just came out that he's got a 40" vert (he is not his brother), i don't think he'll last till 33 anymore. but, yeah, a floor general who's 6-3, has pro athleticism and is perhaps the best defensive PG in the draft? it would be a good get. and, yes, i'd have him behind jmac on the depth chart - and probably in iowa quite a bit.
You know full well how much I love this PG crop. Well we just gave up a shit load in assets and are paying a shit load of money for a PG and got 100% lucky to have been forced to play JMac so we could find out he's good;. How could you possibly justify another asset being used at that position?
On paper it will hurt letting 10 of these PG's go. But our path 100% is UDFA. There will be good one's left to develop.
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probably not worth it then - but yeah, ever since he got caught jumping 40", radar is detecting more blips. i was mentioning him in case of a weird draft night slide.mglviks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:45 amIf we want Tre, it might have to be at 17. He's flying up the boards per something I read somewhere.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:54 pmi don't know if anyone has suggested using a first round pick for another PG. but if tre jones was there at 33, we could certainly do worse than adding a 6-3 floor general with nba athleticism and some of the best backcourt D in college ball.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:57 pm
I find it beyond unreasonable to use a 1st round pick on a 3rd PG.
You know full well how much I love this PG crop. Well we just gave up a shit load in assets and are paying a shit load of money for a PG and got 100% lucky to have been forced to play JMac so we could find out he's good;. How could you possibly justify another asset being used at that position?
On paper it will hurt letting 10 of these PG's go. But our path 100% is UDFA. There will be good one's left to develop.
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Yeah, fine with spending the 2nd rounder on a pg. Do not want to spend either 1st on one.
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Bobby Marks on the New ESPN Insider Free Agency write up said Beasley will command somewhere between 12-14 million per year extension and Jmac is a minimum end of rotation guy.
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I hope both of those remarks are true. I'll gladly pay Beasley 12 mil a year.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:10 pm Bobby Marks on the New ESPN Insider Free Agency write up said Beasley will command somewhere between 12-14 million per year extension and Jmac is a minimum end of rotation guy.
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I wish free agency was before the draft. Might make a difference on our pick..if we take Edwards will Beasley just wanna leave knowing he isn't the long term starter ?Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 pmI hope both of those remarks are true. I'll gladly pay Beasley 12 mil a year.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:10 pm Bobby Marks on the New ESPN Insider Free Agency write up said Beasley will command somewhere between 12-14 million per year extension and Jmac is a minimum end of rotation guy.
Just would be nice to know ,I would assume Rosas has an idea though. Can't imagine teams spending big this year anyway..let's hope
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Beasley is a restricted free agent with Bird rights, so basically he'll be here if Latino Heat wants him here. Otherwise he will be used in a sign-and-trade. My opinion is that he will be here regardless of what happens by the end of the draft.
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if 12-14 is correct, here's a list for reference of NBA guards making in that range right now. and given the company, i'd say it looks about right.
jj redick - jordan clarkson - justise winslow - solomon hill - michael kidd-gilchrist - will barton - courtney lee - patty mills - marcus smart - terrence ross - dion waiters - patrick beverley - trevor ariza - cory joseph
jj redick - jordan clarkson - justise winslow - solomon hill - michael kidd-gilchrist - will barton - courtney lee - patty mills - marcus smart - terrence ross - dion waiters - patrick beverley - trevor ariza - cory joseph
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If you get him for 12 to 14 and he’s willing to sign - get it done. At that rate he becomes a guy that offers the Wolves a starter or even a bench player. He also becomes a very tradable asset if and when an opportunity arises to move him in a deal for a bigger fish.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:09 pm if 12-14 is correct, here's a list for reference of NBA guards making in that range right now. and given the company, i'd say it looks about right.
jj redick - jordan clarkson - justise winslow - solomon hill - michael kidd-gilchrist - will barton - courtney lee - patty mills - marcus smart - terrence ross - dion waiters - patrick beverley - trevor ariza - cory joseph
GO WOLVES!!
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Brickley has a killer KISS tattoo on his right leg. Between him and Russell, they have about 900 hours in the chair combined it looks like.
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I see Vegas has GSW as the third favorite to win the championship next year. Just another team likely to jump into the playoff picture.
A conservative outlook of 8 teams that I would place above the Wolves in the West...Lakers, Clips, Nugs, Warriors, Jazz, Mavs, Rockets, Blazers.
other teams I would put ahead of the Wolves, but some could debate they arent...Thunder, Grizz, Suns.
Teams that I think the Wolves could possibly pass...Spurs, Kings, Pelicans.
Theres a lot that can change between now and next season...but theres a whole shit load that needs to change, not just for the Wolves, but the whole conference for the Wolves to get anywhere the top 8.
A conservative outlook of 8 teams that I would place above the Wolves in the West...Lakers, Clips, Nugs, Warriors, Jazz, Mavs, Rockets, Blazers.
other teams I would put ahead of the Wolves, but some could debate they arent...Thunder, Grizz, Suns.
Teams that I think the Wolves could possibly pass...Spurs, Kings, Pelicans.
Theres a lot that can change between now and next season...but theres a whole shit load that needs to change, not just for the Wolves, but the whole conference for the Wolves to get anywhere the top 8.
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Which is what a lot of us expected, $13mil a season, 3-4 years.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:10 pm Bobby Marks on the New ESPN Insider Free Agency write up said Beasley will command somewhere between 12-14 million per year extension and Jmac is a minimum end of rotation guy.