Booker Unhappy with Suns

[SHAFA]

And the people who say resign Beasley and add other pieces.. with what money? You'd be capped out anyways...

I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't talking about big moves in free agency. We've got two shots within, what, the Top 15 this year? That's where I was referring to adding depth.

[somuchyummy]

working to build a core of KAT/dlo/booker makes about as much sense as building a team with alex english/amare stoudamire/george gervin as your core. it goes nowhere. (only that's a superior three to what we'd be looking at.)

Nowhere? I don't believe that... catch a right break or two and it could go somewhere special. They are best friends... and all want to win.

refer to my comments about D in a post on the previous page. none of these guys play D - and if you look at successful winning max players, now and in the past, the great great majority of them are/were two way players - either good or great defensively to go along with their offensive skills. we want to have THREE guys who are all O and no D - and we want to pay them $90M/yr because.....this has been a winning formula anytime in the nba ever?!?!?

[Oriole81]

working to build a core of KAT/dlo/booker makes about as much sense as building a team with alex english/amare stoudamire/george gervin as your core. it goes nowhere. (only that's a superior three to what we'd be looking at.)

Nowhere? I don't believe that... catch a right break or two and it could go somewhere special. They are best friends... and all want to win.

Hmmm, I'm not so sure I've witnessed that.

[HeHateMe]

working to build a core of KAT/dlo/booker makes about as much sense as building a team with alex english/amare stoudamire/george gervin as your core. it goes nowhere. (only that's a superior three to what we'd be looking at.)

Nowhere? I don't believe that... catch a right break or two and it could go somewhere special. They are best friends... and all want to win.

Hmmm, I'm not so sure I've witnessed that.

If you think KAT is a fraud, by all means.... believe that. I think he wants to win. Russell led a decent Brooklyn team a year ago to the playoffs.

Keep doubting!

[HeHateMe]

working to build a core of KAT/dlo/booker makes about as much sense as building a team with alex english/amare stoudamire/george gervin as your core. it goes nowhere. (only that's a superior three to what we'd be looking at.)

Nowhere? I don't believe that... catch a right break or two and it could go somewhere special. They are best friends... and all want to win.

refer to my comments about D in a post on the previous page. none of these guys play D - and if you look at successful winning max players, now and in the past, the great great majority of them are/were two way players - either good or great defensively to go along with their offensive skills. we want to have THREE guys who are all O and no D - and we want to pay them $90M/yr because.....this has been a winning formula anytime in the nba ever?!?!?

Defense is effort and talking.. put in the right guys around those three... it's harder to find the dynamic offensive player versus a defensive stopper who fits a system where he can set screens on offense, maybe make some open shots and work his ass off on defense.

Wiggins and KAT are "terrible defenders" yet the defensive rating with a 38 or 39 year old KG, Rubio and Tayshaun Prince were pretty good... weird.

[somuchyummy]

and who are we surrounding THREE guys with - who are the other two who will equal the defensive saavy and impact of KG, prince and rubio? that ain't happening. i'm just saying - you're expecting these three to change their stripes and become good defenders. that's a solid argument ... when you've got first and second year players. but KAT/dlo/booker have combined to play over 1000 nba games - with no D in sight. they are what they are at this point. people keep wanting these cats to be something they aren't.

[Oriole81]

Nowhere? I don't believe that... catch a right break or two and it could go somewhere special. They are best friends... and all want to win.

Hmmm, I'm not so sure I've witnessed that.

If you think KAT is a fraud, by all means.... believe that. I think he wants to win. Russell led a decent Brooklyn team a year ago to the playoffs.

Keep doubting!

I wouldn't say fraud per se. I think he wants to win, I just don't think his actions always demonstrate that.
Here's an interesting article I found...

"As the Wolves gear up for next season, there is one glaring improvement that they must make if they want to become a playoff team: KAT needs to play defense.

Towns currently ranks 405 of 513 players in NBA.com'sdefensive win shares, and has an awful 115.4 defensive rating. That means a starting lineup of five Towns would yield 115 points to any opponent. The Wolves are actually a minus 2.2 points per 100 possessions with KAT on the court, according to Basketball-Reference.

The numbers get even worse, as Towns averages 3.3 turnovers per game and opponents average 11.8 points off of turnovers against Minnesota, and he rarely hustles on defense. After some turnovers, the Wolves are essentially stuck playing five-on-four. Opponents also average 8.9 second-chance points and 8.6 points off fast breaks.

It has happened on several occasions over the course of the season where KAT is the last person to cross the half-court line on offense. He is passed the ball at the top of the key and hoists up a long-distance shot, misses badly, and the defense rebounds the ball and goes on a fast break. All too often, KAT jogs down to be the last person on the other side of the court.

Also, KAT is towards the bottom in the league giving up 35 points in the paint per game. There is no reason for teams to take perimeter shots against the Wolves. They can simply take the ball to the basket and they're almost guaranteed to score. How can a 6-foot-11 franchise player allow so many easy buckets?
"

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/03/0 ... e-defense/

In my opinion, that's not somebody that wants to win.
I will say that defense is a learned skill just like any other in basketball, so it is something that KAT can get better at if he wants to. The important part being, he has to want to.

[Philo Beddoe]

I'd rather have Beasley, our pick, and Culver than Booker

[swenjj]

I'd rather have Beasley, our pick, and Culver than Booker

Dlo, Beasley,Culver, okongwu,towns..
Or
Dlo,Booker,okogie,juancho,towns

I like the first.. and still have the Brooklyn pick and probably more cap flexibility.

[somuchyummy]

I'd rather have Beasley, our pick, and Culver than Booker

Dlo, Beasley,Culver, okongwu,towns..
Or
Dlo,Booker,okogie,juancho,towns

I like the first.. and still have the Brooklyn pick and probably more cap flexibility.

this.

[LordNu]

working to build a core of KAT/dlo/booker makes about as much sense as building a team with alex english/amare stoudamire/george gervin as your core. it goes nowhere. (only that's a superior three to what we'd be looking at.)

I'd still really want to see that side.

[Hoop Dreams]

[thinktank]

I'd rather have Beasley, our pick, and Culver than Booker

Dlo, Beasley,Culver, okongwu,towns..
Or
Dlo,Booker,okogie,juancho,towns

I like the first.. and still have the Brooklyn pick and probably more cap flexibility.

this.

Booker is so very much the best player in that trade.

[thinktank]

People are like, where are we going to find two defensive players?

We already have Okogie.

You need one more defensive big.

Put a defensive big and Okogie next to those three and LET’S GO!

[Beef Supreme]

Well, it’s clearly an above-average 3. And that’s a lot better than what we usually get.


But nobody’s going to forget about Michael, Scottie, and Dennis. Or James, Wade, and Bosh. Or Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili. Or Durant, Curry, and Thompson. Or KG, Pierce, and Allen. Etc...


But it beats the hell out of Al Jefferson, Darko Milicic, and Ryan Gomez. So let’s go!

[jodaman01]

Get KG in on ownership, put these three together and become the talk of the NBA!!

New Era Of Wolves Basketball!!

LET’S GO!!

GO WOLVES!!

[jodaman01]

People are like, where are we going to find two defensive players?

We already have Okogie.

You need one more defensive big.

Put a defensive big and Okogie next to those three and LET’S GO!

BINGO!!

They make it sound like this is some type of rocket science. Put these three together and the job of the GM becomes the job that every GM dreams of.

GO WOLVES!!

[Yeezy_Musk]

Kat 0 iq

[somuchyummy]

People are like, where are we going to find two defensive players?

We already have Okogie.

You need one more defensive big.

Put a defensive big and Okogie next to those three and LET’S GO!

BINGO!!

They make it sound like this is some type of rocket science. Put these three together and the job of the GM becomes the job that every GM dreams of.

GO WOLVES!!

god joda, you can't let it go can you. put two defensive players - one okogie, who's maybe a fringe nba starter on his best days - with those three and you still have 3 really bad defensive players. defense is only as good as the weak link in the chain. we'd have 3 weak links - and you somehow think two good defenders would solve everything. god help me.

[thinktank]

People are like, where are we going to find two defensive players?

We already have Okogie.

You need one more defensive big.

Put a defensive big and Okogie next to those three and LET’S GO!

BINGO!!

They make it sound like this is some type of rocket science. Put these three together and the job of the GM becomes the job that every GM dreams of.

GO WOLVES!!

god joda, you can't let it go can you. put two defensive players - one okogie, who's maybe a fringe nba starter on his best days - with those three and you still have 3 really bad defensive players. defense is only as good as the weak link in the chain. we'd have 3 weak links - and you somehow think two good defenders would solve everything. god help me.

You underestimate the value of a dedicated rim protector. KAT becomes the weak side big, which is ok, actually.

[jodaman01]

People are like, where are we going to find two defensive players?

We already have Okogie.

You need one more defensive big.

Put a defensive big and Okogie next to those three and LET’S GO!

BINGO!!

They make it sound like this is some type of rocket science. Put these three together and the job of the GM becomes the job that every GM dreams of.

GO WOLVES!!

god joda, you can't let it go can you. put two defensive players - one okogie, who's maybe a fringe nba starter on his best days - with those three and you still have 3 really bad defensive players. defense is only as good as the weak link in the chain. we'd have 3 weak links - and you somehow think two good defenders would solve everything. god help me.

Wake up and quit fighting it. With KAT, DLO and Beasley you have the same defensive issues, but with what IMO is inferior offensive talent.

I believe you are somehow of the belief that Culver is some magic answer that if kept that somehow makes KAT, DLO and Beasley a defensive juggernaut along with some rookie they draft at PF. There is no guarantee that Rosas will go PF with the pick and no guarantee that rookie is worth a shit at the NBA level, and you know that.....then what??? Nothing good.

I don’t believe Booker is going anywhere, he is the Suns best player and I don’t see why they would let him go. It’s fun to dream if the opportunity presents itself.

GO WOLVES!!

[somuchyummy]

okay. but if it's fun to dream and speculate, then let's focus our energy on anthony davis, okay?

[LordNu]

okay. but if it's fun to dream and speculate, then let's focus our energy on anthony davis, okay?

Or better yet, KAT fusing with Hakeem Olujawon.

[somuchyummy]

that could work too. and then that he also acquires the the superpower to fly. i like where this is going.

[LordNu]

that could work too. and then that he also acquires the the superpower to fly. i like where this is going.

And so Space Jam 2 finally became a reality, but this time it was set in the Star Wars Universe.

[somuchyummy]

i think thanos could make a good PF. are you with me?

[LordNu]

i think thanos could make a good PF. are you with me?

Ooooo the universe crossover!

[somuchyummy]

i think thanos could make a good PF. are you with me?

Ooooo the universe crossover!

i mean, i think he could maybe handle zion down low. he'd have a good chance at least.

[Corre Ricky Corre]

i think thanos could make a good PF. are you with me?

The Rhino?

[Hoop Dreams]