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it's never too early to think about free agency
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it's never too early to think about free agency
i guess when everything else has ground to a standstill, why not? i actually don't want us to pursue any FAs this period - think our team is crazy enough adding 2 to 3 rooks - but i needed to do this before my head explodes from the freaking stress of this week. i got this list from spotrac - i'm assuming it's up to date - but no guarantees. many of these players are old as the hills, so it will be interesting to see if they get contracts at all - and for how much. some are coming off massive contracts in which they underperformed - what's going to shake out with them? some are on tiny contracts now and are due for big upgrades. anyway, who do you like? what do you think they're worth? i'm not including RFAs here because they're the hardest to obtain.
Unrestricted Free Agents
paul millsap - hassan whiteside - marc gasol - serge ibaka - danilo gallinari - derrick favors - bismack biyombo - kent bazemore - goran dragic - tristan thompson - marcus morris - jordan clarkson - moe harkless - meyers leonard - fred vanvleet - joe harris - davis bertans - jae crowder - montrezl harrell - aron baynes - justin holiday - bryn forbes - dwight howard - wilson chandler - rondae hollis jefferson - juancho hernangomez - alec burks - harry giles - kyle o'quinn - nerlens noel - ante zizic - markieff morris - derrick jones jr. - christian wood - willy hernangomez - david nwaba - reggie jackson - pat connaughton - emmanuel mudiay
Players Options
gordon hayward - demar derozan - otto porter jr. - andre drummond - anthony davis - tim hardaway jr. - evan fournier - james johnson - kelly olynyk - tony snell - jerami grant - kentavious caldwell-pope - jabari parker - rodney hood - jamychal green - avery bradley - javale mcgee - austin rivers - willie cauley-stein - mario hezonja
Club Options
bobby portis - marvin bagley III - deaaron fox - frank kaminsky - cheick diallo - svi mykhailiuk - semi ojeleye - hamidou diallo - jontay porter
Unrestricted Free Agents
paul millsap - hassan whiteside - marc gasol - serge ibaka - danilo gallinari - derrick favors - bismack biyombo - kent bazemore - goran dragic - tristan thompson - marcus morris - jordan clarkson - moe harkless - meyers leonard - fred vanvleet - joe harris - davis bertans - jae crowder - montrezl harrell - aron baynes - justin holiday - bryn forbes - dwight howard - wilson chandler - rondae hollis jefferson - juancho hernangomez - alec burks - harry giles - kyle o'quinn - nerlens noel - ante zizic - markieff morris - derrick jones jr. - christian wood - willy hernangomez - david nwaba - reggie jackson - pat connaughton - emmanuel mudiay
Players Options
gordon hayward - demar derozan - otto porter jr. - andre drummond - anthony davis - tim hardaway jr. - evan fournier - james johnson - kelly olynyk - tony snell - jerami grant - kentavious caldwell-pope - jabari parker - rodney hood - jamychal green - avery bradley - javale mcgee - austin rivers - willie cauley-stein - mario hezonja
Club Options
bobby portis - marvin bagley III - deaaron fox - frank kaminsky - cheick diallo - svi mykhailiuk - semi ojeleye - hamidou diallo - jontay porter
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
Kinda strange now we have no idea what the salary cap will be. If it drops down I almost wish we could lock some players in long term.it will go way up sooner or later. But this year's a mess
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guys like bazemore are going to be interesting to watch. okay player - very good defensively, shot 39% from three in his 21 games after the trade to the kings this year, just 31. but waaaay overpaid in his last contract. he made nearly $20M this season - what will he land this time around? still a decent rotational piece, but he'll be pulling in a helluva lot less next season - wherever he goes.
and christian wood. finishes the season - his last 22 games he went 21/8 on 56% from the floor - and, of course, gets the dreaded covid shit. but that kid has played his way to a payday. he's a legit nba power forward now who made only $1.6M this year.
and christian wood. finishes the season - his last 22 games he went 21/8 on 56% from the floor - and, of course, gets the dreaded covid shit. but that kid has played his way to a payday. he's a legit nba power forward now who made only $1.6M this year.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
froobs! where's the enthusiasm? free agency is just a mere 104 days away!
we might be out of lockdown by then.
we might be out of lockdown by then.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
Give me the draft first. I am also expecting Booker.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:21 pm froobs! where's the enthusiasm? free agency is just a mere 104 days away!
we might be out of lockdown by then.
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god i hope not. really really really really do not want him. i mean how many 30 million dollar pals does KAT need around here?
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
I think you'll see a lot of 1 year deals. Wouldn't be surprised if Beasley and/or Juancho took the QO either, same with any other RFA. It's just unlikely that there'll be much, if any, money to go around.
On the flip side I'd expect the league to waive the luxury tax if the cap drops as they couldn't really afford to have the entire league paying the tax.
On the flip side I'd expect the league to waive the luxury tax if the cap drops as they couldn't really afford to have the entire league paying the tax.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
i think you're right about that. and that's why i mention a guy like bazemore - still a valuable team guy, but has been way overpaid. he could go from a $19.2M salary this year to a one year vet min deal of around $2.5M - where suddenly his value really pops.
i still don't want to pursue the FA market though. it's like we sort of did that with the midseason purge we just went thru. want to see what we've actually got now before chucking any of it.
i still don't want to pursue the FA market though. it's like we sort of did that with the midseason purge we just went thru. want to see what we've actually got now before chucking any of it.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
apparently it is. far too early to talk about free agency.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
It's hard to muster up any enthusiasm when we just don't know. We are 3rd worst for record so if they just canceled the season and just play the playoffs pr the whole season. 3 worst teams get the same odds for highest % chance of #1 pick. Thats pretty cool.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:40 pm apparently it is. far too early to talk about free agency.
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I’ll post tomorrow
Props to you bro keeping WC busy
Props to you bro keeping WC busy
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
Grab Bobby Portis.
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no to this. not that he's a bad player, but i think we'll be fine at the 4 just drafting toppin, resigning juancho and keeping jj for his final year. besides, portis is expensive ($15M one year deal right now) - and has said the priority at this stage of his career is to make money. he'll go to the highest bidder.
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We will have the worst defense in the history of the game with Toppin starting at the 4.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:10 amno to this. not that he's a bad player, but i think we'll be fine at the 4 just drafting toppin, resigning juancho and keeping jj for his final year. besides, portis is expensive ($15M one year deal right now) - and has said the priority at this stage of his career is to make money. he'll go to the highest bidder.
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you do realize that the biggest rap on portis throughout his career has been his poor defense.
"it's difficult to overstate how bad portis is on the defensive end. he's a terrible rim protector. he's poor in PnR, regardless of the coverage. he's a below average shot blocker, which is surprising since he is 6-11 and athletic. While he is still young, it's worrisome that he is still so clueless on defense after four seasons. There's no question he's way behind the learning curve." - that was from a May 2019 end of season assessment from SB Nation Bullets Forever.
there's no guarantee about how toppin's D will pan out - good or bad. but juancho gives a load of effort on that end, which already puts him even with or over portis - and JJ has always been a plus defender as well. you are right - we could do better than toppin for a defensive pairing with KAT. i'd be okay with okongwu with that top pick, although he hasn't shown nearly the same level of O than obi.
"it's difficult to overstate how bad portis is on the defensive end. he's a terrible rim protector. he's poor in PnR, regardless of the coverage. he's a below average shot blocker, which is surprising since he is 6-11 and athletic. While he is still young, it's worrisome that he is still so clueless on defense after four seasons. There's no question he's way behind the learning curve." - that was from a May 2019 end of season assessment from SB Nation Bullets Forever.
there's no guarantee about how toppin's D will pan out - good or bad. but juancho gives a load of effort on that end, which already puts him even with or over portis - and JJ has always been a plus defender as well. you are right - we could do better than toppin for a defensive pairing with KAT. i'd be okay with okongwu with that top pick, although he hasn't shown nearly the same level of O than obi.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
What team do you root for? Have you considered ever checking who the Minnesota Timberwolves have started at the 4? Also you should check out this guy named Obi Toppin. Not sure which Toppin you watch.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:18 amWe will have the worst defense in the history of the game with Toppin starting at the 4.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:10 amno to this. not that he's a bad player, but i think we'll be fine at the 4 just drafting toppin, resigning juancho and keeping jj for his final year. besides, portis is expensive ($15M one year deal right now) - and has said the priority at this stage of his career is to make money. he'll go to the highest bidder.
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Toppin is considered to be a very mediocre defender and every expert thinks he has slow feet.
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agreed. he's got work to do if he wants that opinion changed. but your wanting portis to be here - for way more cash - so our D would improve? i would dispute that.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:18 pm Toppin is considered to be a very mediocre defender and every expert thinks he has slow feet.
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I don't think Portis would cost much. Also, Portis is a better rebounder IMO. Toppin would be perfect if KAT can become an above average rim protector.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:24 pmagreed. he's got work to do if he wants that opinion changed. but your wanting portis to be here - for way more cash - so our D would improve? i would dispute that.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:18 pm Toppin is considered to be a very mediocre defender and every expert thinks he has slow feet.
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I don't think Portis would cost much. Also, Portis is a better rebounder IMO. Toppin would be perfect if KAT can become an above average rim protector.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:24 pmagreed. he's got work to do if he wants that opinion changed. but your wanting portis to be here - for way more cash - so our D would improve? i would dispute that.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:18 pm Toppin is considered to be a very mediocre defender and every expert thinks he has slow feet.
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portis is coming off a $15M one year deal - which is pretty pricey - and has said the biggest factor in this stage of his life is making money for his family. he'll go to the highest bidder - which i don't think should be us. yes, he probably won't get that much per year with his next deal - but toppin, who sort of projects out as a john collins type, will be on a cheapo rookie deal for years. great value.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:27 pmI don't think Portis would cost much. Also, Portis is a better rebounder IMO. Toppin would be perfect if KAT can become an above average rim protector.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:24 pmagreed. he's got work to do if he wants that opinion changed. but your wanting portis to be here - for way more cash - so our D would improve? i would dispute that.Corre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:18 pm Toppin is considered to be a very mediocre defender and every expert thinks he has slow feet.
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Re: it's never too early to think about free agency
Whiteside would be my target. Put him and Towns on the court at the same time, it frees KAT up to worry solely about scoring, Whiteside seems like the type of player who gets his off defense and dirty work on the offensive end.
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just 100 quick, carefree, homebound days till free agency, me froobpals!
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Does he make 3's? Is he short?
Yeah......................nope.
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Everything is easier now that we have a point guard. Free agency is easier to pick and choose from. Drafting is easier. Getting an experienced coach should be easier.
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tru dat. (my teenager just slapped his forehead.)
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This is my line of thinking too. Fuck small ball. Let’s get a shot blocker and rim protector!
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Mo Harkless and Alex Burks are my guys for sure
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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/2 ... ade-Market
While the 2020 NBA free agency class is one of the weakest in recent memory, we could instead see a more robust trade market fill that void as there a number of contending teams seeking to upgrade or reallocate their roster.
"I don't think we're going to see a lot of action in free agency," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast. "There's not going to be a whole lot of movement. The trade market is where the big movement in the offseason is going to be. And Chris Paul is one of the big things out there, for sure. And I also think there's six or seven teams that are really prime to make a deal. Not for Chris Paul but..."
The Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets are widely expected to be active on the trade market, as well as the Golden State Warriors and Indiana Pacers.
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.............I mean........ .............holy crapCorre Ricky Corre wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:18 amWe will have the worst defense in the history of the game with Toppin starting at the 4.somuchyummy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:10 amno to this. not that he's a bad player, but i think we'll be fine at the 4 just drafting toppin, resigning juancho and keeping jj for his final year. besides, portis is expensive ($15M one year deal right now) - and has said the priority at this stage of his career is to make money. he'll go to the highest bidder.
Have you heard of this thing called last year?