Season Is Officially Done - Gobert Has COVID-19

[SO_MONEY]

I think you’re probably right. But the point is, even if it’s off by double, this will still be devastating in a way that nothing in most of our lifetimes has been.

First off 3.4% is a world statistic, meaning demographics very between countries. The median age in the US is about 38 compared to Italy at 45, mortality rates are going to drop just because of that. Second, your projections might be making a ton of presumptions, like 1. does everyone get infected? 2. Is the infection is not weakened? ... Third, if you apply your standard, the "common cold"/flu would have increases in mortality rates, where underlying problems officially are the cause of death. Lastly, a ton of people die from the flu each year and a treatment will get better and the strength will decrease. This is not a big deal, at all. It is a bad cold that will be harder on old people by a factor of 5-10.

“It is not a big deal, at all.”


Time stamped and saved.


We will see.

Where is your outrage over 1-2% of the infected elderly dying from the "flu"? I am guessing it doesn't exist. Frankly, most of these people will die anyways if they get a cold, but treatment will get better mortality rates will go down in that demographic for multiple reasons. If you don't make a big deal about 1-2% what percentage is a "big deal"? As of now you are saying an aggregated 8% is that point.

[flexbuffchest]

Kevin Love... You're a good man.

Fair to say at this point that Cleveland won that trade?

Cavs arena and support staff wanna play with Love?

[flexbuffchest]

Wow, teams are prohibited from even practicing.

[flexbuffchest]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

[SO_MONEY]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

[j2j]

So_Drunk never wastes a moment to show how much of a POS he really is.

[SO_MONEY]

So_Drunk never wastes a moment to show how much of a POS he really is.

Why is what I am saying so controversial? What makes me a POS? Did I say I hope people die? That would make me a POS, but I didn't. SO ENLIGHTEN ME.

[Beef Supreme]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”

[LordNu]

Donovan Mitchell is positive...nice Rudy you turd.

This will follow Rudy the rest of his life

Rudy GOVID

[SO_MONEY]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”

Are you taking responsibility for others and their plight regardless of impact to yourself? This is simple. This is not child labor.

[Beef Supreme]

Kevin Love... You're a good man.

Meanwhile:


“James Harden to donate 10 million dollar bills to keep nation’s strip clubs afloat during pandemic.”












(Yes, it’s the Onion)

[SHAFA]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

[SO_MONEY]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation of private employment, when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

[LordNu]

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Forced leave. It can fuck up people's lives. If you were in a position where you couldn't work a casual position because your workplace was forced to close, and you were living paycheck to paycheck, how would you feel? It's not that these people don't want to work, it's that they are FORCED not to work. There is a difference. You may not believe in a social responsibility, and that is fine, but unfortunately we are born into these societies and have no choice but to comply with how they are governed, which means some social responsibility.

Also, there is a risk that if you don't help out the most vulnerable, them going under will actually drag down the rest of the economy. For example, say a casual employee is now unable to pay for their rent or groceries, the landlord will not get their money - which may be used to pay off a mortgage - and the grocery store lose out on some money, which may be fine to lose one customer but if it is multiple? Then they can't pay their employees.

It has significant knock-on effects which quickly compound.

[Seenin]

Microsoft is continuing to pay its vendors that support its campuses even though those employees have to take a cut in hours they are getting 40 hours a week till this is over. Which there are barely any on campus at this point. Fortune 500 companies can afford to do that and they should consider doing it. But if this actually becomes a real pandemic as in we are seeing a lot of casualties and it carrys on for a extended period of time then financial support in some form whether that's debt forgiveness, freezing bills or money is realistic to help people bounce back. If its gone in 30 days though i'm not as in favor of assistance. Either way there is going to be some form of government responsibility to its people, after all look at all the bullshit programs we spend our tax dollars on. The government at a minimum owes its people assistance during scenarios like this one if its going to drag out.

[somuchyummy]

so is probably in a position where he doesn't feel vulnerable - so, no empathy for those who are vulnerable in these situations. he's the guy in the dry end of the canoe saying "too bad suckers" to the guys at the other end of the canoe bailing out water from the hole on their end. i don't understand how people don't see how it's all connected.

[weimy froob]

Gobert tests positive.



ANd holy shit the other day he mocked it by rubbing his hands all over microphones...

Rudy Gobert apologizes to 'the people I may have endangered' after being 'careless' with coronavirus

Utah Jazz Center Rudy Gobert issued an apology on Instagram on Thursday, a day after he was diagnosed with COVID-19, prompting the suspension of the NBA season.

Gobert is under fire for making light of the coronavirus pandemic during a Monday news conference when reporters asked players about the response to the spread of COVID-19. He closed his session with reporters by reaching to touch the microphones and voice recorders on the podium.

He showed up on Wednesday’s injury report as questionable with an illness prior to his positive test for COVID-19. Wednesday’s Jazz game against the Oklahoma City Thunder was abruptly canceled just before tipoff when news arrived to Chesapeake Energy Arena that he had tested positive.

Players and staff from both teams were temporarily quarantined in the arena and tested.

His teammate Donovan Mitchell announced on Thursday that he also tested positive for COVID-19.

‘I was careless’
“The first and most important thing is I would like to publicly apologize to the people that I may have endangered,” Gobert wrote. “At the time, I had no idea I was even infected. I was careless and make no excuse. I hope my story serves as a warning and causes everyone to take this seriously.”

Gobert noted that he is “under great care and will fully recover” while thanking fans for their support.

click link to read the whole instagram post. it looks like there's lots of comments too.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rudy-gober ... 52645.html

[Rusty Kuntz]

I hope this ass clown gets boo'd at every arena until he retires..

[witljon]

The season is officially done for the Wolves.

[SO_MONEY]

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Forced leave. It can fuck up people's lives. If you were in a position where you couldn't work a casual position because your workplace was forced to close, and you were living paycheck to paycheck, how would you feel? It's not that these people don't want to work, it's that they are FORCED not to work. There is a difference. You may not believe in a social responsibility, and that is fine, but unfortunately we are born into these societies and have no choice but to comply with how they are governed, which means some social responsibility.

Also, there is a risk that if you don't help out the most vulnerable, them going under will actually drag down the rest of the economy. For example, say a casual employee is now unable to pay for their rent or groceries, the landlord will not get their money - which may be used to pay off a mortgage - and the grocery store lose out on some money, which may be fine to lose one customer but if it is multiple? Then they can't pay their employees.

It has significant knock-on effects which quickly compound.

Are you aware of "furloughs"? These can happen just because. There is no social responsibility, you are not grated a right to work or pay in private industry. Moreover you are engaging in the broken window fallacy or the economic idea of saving the X industry.

[flexbuffchest]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Ya, a worldwide pandemic is easily predictable...Sorry, I'm not going to defend or feel sorry for multi-billionaires who feel "forced" to pay a couple hundred hourly employees, many of them probably don't even make $10 an hour, because they are being forced to not.

I really hope Glen Taylor does something similar!

[SO_MONEY]

Looks like the Cavs are doing the right thing.

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Ya, a worldwide pandemic is easily predictable...Sorry, I'm not going to defend or feel sorry for multi-billionaires who feel "forced" to pay a couple hundred hourly employees, many of them probably don't even make $10 an hour, because they are being forced to not working.

I really hope Glen Taylor does something similar!

It is predictable though unless you were under a rock, that said people can do what they want... I have no problem with people doing good things. You should do well by doing good. That is how I would wish to conduct myself. I just don't expect it or feel it is obligated.

[Beef Supreme]

Meh. I don't think you should pay people for not working, things like this are relatively predictable (if not when). It is noble in idea, but to a point you need to be real. SHIT HAPPENS!!!!

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation of private employment, when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Nobody's saying you have to do shit, Ebeneezer. Here is a private organization worth millions freely opting to take care of people who help it be the business that it is. And you're shitting all over it. Fuck off. Nobody's asking you for a fucking cent.

"I don't think you should pay people for not working."

"If they'd rather die, they'd better do it, decrease the surplus population."


This is exactly what big capitalists say is the great thing about capitalism. A big rich company providing charity to those in need. Sure, it could not pay them. And they'd suffer. But this company has made it's choice to take care of those that take care of it. This is the kind of move that makes the socialists put away their pitchforks and guillotines for a little while.

You don't have to help anyone if you don't want to. But don't tell others that they shouldn't. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


Fucking mlhouse jr.

[LordNu]

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Forced leave. It can fuck up people's lives. If you were in a position where you couldn't work a casual position because your workplace was forced to close, and you were living paycheck to paycheck, how would you feel? It's not that these people don't want to work, it's that they are FORCED not to work. There is a difference. You may not believe in a social responsibility, and that is fine, but unfortunately we are born into these societies and have no choice but to comply with how they are governed, which means some social responsibility.

Also, there is a risk that if you don't help out the most vulnerable, them going under will actually drag down the rest of the economy. For example, say a casual employee is now unable to pay for their rent or groceries, the landlord will not get their money - which may be used to pay off a mortgage - and the grocery store lose out on some money, which may be fine to lose one customer but if it is multiple? Then they can't pay their employees.

It has significant knock-on effects which quickly compound.

Are you aware of "furloughs"? These can happen just because. There is no social responsibility, you are not grated a right to work or pay in private industry. Moreover you are engaging in the broken window fallacy or the economic idea of saving the X industry.

Never heard of it, don't think we have it here. (looked it up) In our industrial law, this would be a illegal. I am guessing this kind of discussion will bring to light the major differences between Aus and US workplace law.

I am not sure how I am saying an "industry" will be saved. I am looking at this at a macro level where ALL workplaces are affected. I wasn't pointing to just the NBA. When such a vast workforce is sent home without pay, you don't think that will have a massive impact?

BTW, out of curiosity, are most of the US workforce Casual/part-time/full-time employees, and how much does it impact ones rights?

[SO_MONEY]

Duuuuude. Come on, now.

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation of private employment, when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Nobody's saying you have to do shit, Ebeneezer. Here is a private organization worth millions freely opting to take care of people who help it be the business that it is. And you're shitting all over it. Fuck off. Nobody's asking you for a fucking cent.

"I don't think you should pay people for not working."

"If they'd rather die, they'd better do it, decrease the surplus population."


This is exactly what big capitalists say is the great thing about capitalism. A big rich company providing charity to those in need. Sure, it could not pay them. And they'd suffer. But this company has made it's choice to take care of those that take care of it. This is the kind of move that makes the socialists put away their pitchforks and guillotines for a little while.

You don't have to help anyone if you don't want to. But don't tell others that they shouldn't. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


Fucking mlhouse jr.

Huh? I didn't say that.

As for the other I should have worded things better, where my point was you shouldn't be forced to pay people for not working. What someone chooses to do is on them and frankly circumstantial. You cannot have volunteerism without capitalism. There is no obligation to others based on private employment and people should deal with realities without expecting them and possibly be surprised if a solid is preformed.

[Beef Supreme]

Maybe, I am more cynical because I understand the risk, knowing this could happen or WORSE. I have ZERO intrest in subsidizing people as an obligation of private employment, when we know things can happen. I have NO idea why you have an issue with that, NONE.

Nobody's saying you have to do shit, Ebeneezer. Here is a private organization worth millions freely opting to take care of people who help it be the business that it is. And you're shitting all over it. Fuck off. Nobody's asking you for a fucking cent.

"I don't think you should pay people for not working."

"If they'd rather die, they'd better do it, decrease the surplus population."


This is exactly what big capitalists say is the great thing about capitalism. A big rich company providing charity to those in need. Sure, it could not pay them. And they'd suffer. But this company has made it's choice to take care of those that take care of it. This is the kind of move that makes the socialists put away their pitchforks and guillotines for a little while.

You don't have to help anyone if you don't want to. But don't tell others that they shouldn't. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.


Fucking mlhouse jr.

Huh? I didn't say that.

As for the other I should have worded things better, where my point was you shouldn't be forced to pay people for not working. What someone chooses to do is on them and frankly circumstantial. You cannot have volunteerism without capitalism. There is no obligation to others based on private employment and people should deal with realities without expecting them and possibly be surprised if a solid is preformed.

I know. That was Ebeneezer Scrooge from Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" (before he has his crisis of conscience and becomes a human being).


It just sounds like you.

[SO_MONEY]

Forced leave. It can fuck up people's lives. If you were in a position where you couldn't work a casual position because your workplace was forced to close, and you were living paycheck to paycheck, how would you feel? It's not that these people don't want to work, it's that they are FORCED not to work. There is a difference. You may not believe in a social responsibility, and that is fine, but unfortunately we are born into these societies and have no choice but to comply with how they are governed, which means some social responsibility.

Also, there is a risk that if you don't help out the most vulnerable, them going under will actually drag down the rest of the economy. For example, say a casual employee is now unable to pay for their rent or groceries, the landlord will not get their money - which may be used to pay off a mortgage - and the grocery store lose out on some money, which may be fine to lose one customer but if it is multiple? Then they can't pay their employees.

It has significant knock-on effects which quickly compound.

Are you aware of "furloughs"? These can happen just because. There is no social responsibility, you are not grated a right to work or pay in private industry. Moreover you are engaging in the broken window fallacy or the economic idea of saving the X industry.

Never heard of it, don't think we have it here. (looked it up) In our industrial law, this would be a illegal. I am guessing this kind of discussion will bring to light the major differences between Aus and US workplace law.

I am not sure how I am saying an "industry" will be saved. I am looking at this at a macro level where ALL workplaces are affected. I wasn't pointing to just the NBA. When such a vast workforce is sent home without pay, you don't think that will have a massive impact?

BTW, out of curiosity, are most of the US workforce Casual/part-time/full-time employees, and how much does it impact ones rights?

It is a term (saving the X industry) coined by Hazlitt in the book "Economics in One Lesson" (Chapter 14). It is a relatively famous term that demonstrated you shouldn't use funds to prop up the railroads and robber barons as those funds could be used elsewhere by choice. Basically, I am saying you kind of hint funds should be used for a reason, to prevent things, meanwhile ignoring other uses that might be just as important that you are taking away from.

As for your question I am not sure and don't know exactly what rights are in a greater sense when it come to employment as there is just so much to cover.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what- ... gh-2386325

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what- ... hs-1918590

[Catalyst]

Please, the economy rides on the backs of the people who purchase. No income. No purchase. The billionaires know this makes them look good while they are really keeping the economy from collapsing while everyone hides and doesn't buy. I just wish they could get the dumbasses that really don't know shit anout the market to quit panic selling and let the market stabilize.

[LordNu]

Are you aware of "furloughs"? These can happen just because. There is no social responsibility, you are not grated a right to work or pay in private industry. Moreover you are engaging in the broken window fallacy or the economic idea of saving the X industry.

Never heard of it, don't think we have it here. (looked it up) In our industrial law, this would be a illegal. I am guessing this kind of discussion will bring to light the major differences between Aus and US workplace law.

I am not sure how I am saying an "industry" will be saved. I am looking at this at a macro level where ALL workplaces are affected. I wasn't pointing to just the NBA. When such a vast workforce is sent home without pay, you don't think that will have a massive impact?

BTW, out of curiosity, are most of the US workforce Casual/part-time/full-time employees, and how much does it impact ones rights?

It is a term (saving the X industry) coined by Hazlitt in the book "Economics in One Lesson" (Chapter 14). It is a relatively famous term that demonstrated you shouldn't use funds to prop up the railroads and robber barons as those funds could be used elsewhere by choice. Basically, I am saying you kind of hint funds should be used for a reason, to prevent things, meanwhile ignoring other uses that might be just as important that you are taking away from.

As for your question I am not sure and don't know exactly what rights are in a greater sense when it come to employment as there is just so much to cover.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what- ... gh-2386325

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what- ... hs-1918590

Yeah that would be illegal here, at least for part time/full time employees. You either make someone redundant, or you don’t. US law is too legalise at times, and something the UK and Aus push away from. We are taught to draft advice in layman terms, and try to make legislation as accessible as it can be to anyone.

What’s your background - i.e. where you are coming from on these topics?

[kilkenny]

Ohio official stated she thought there were probably 100,000 people in her state that are positive for COVID-19. That's the thing about this strain, it lives a long time on surfaces. Very easy to transmit. I also believe it's been here in the US longer than we think.