2020 NBA Draft: Timberwolves with the 5th pick:

[Decker23]

Who do they take?

[somuchyummy]

depends on this trade talk. if we land russell, then i'd go obi toppin.

[Thrillkill]

depends on this trade talk. if we land russell, then i'd go obi toppin.

Obi will end up a top 2 pick IMO. I'd do whatever it takes to get him. He would be awesome sitting on our bench next to all the other useless tall guys.

[somuchyummy]

how come i just knew that would be your final sentence?

but seriously thrill, he's only like 6-8 225. he could masquerade as a wing.

how's toppin doing against big time programs? i think that might be the only rap. he's not a particularly big big. so has he been so dominant because he's as big, but stronger faster more athletic than the dayton competition? and when he hits the pros, that advantage will disappear? i don't think he's a morant level talent - and even then, ja as a PG doesn't have to overcome the size thing in his transition to the pros nearly as much as a 6-8 225 PF might. long story short, i think when all's said and done - he'll be there at 5.

i don't think the wolves will be there though - and if this dlo thing falls thru - i'll be happy if they can get haliburton at 8 or 9.

[SO_MONEY]

depends on this trade talk. if we land russell, then i'd go obi toppin.

Obi will end up a top 2 pick IMO. I'd do whatever it takes to get him. He would be awesome sitting on our bench next to all the other useless tall guys.

Better chance Stewart goes top 2 IMO.

[jodaman01]

depends on this trade talk. if we land russell, then i'd go obi toppin.

Obi will end up a top 2 pick IMO. I'd do whatever it takes to get him. He would be awesome sitting on our bench next to all the other useless tall guys.

Well we so stocked with shooters that it would be good to find a player with that in-between range.

[Corre Ricky Corre]

Cole Anthony!!

[j2j]

We're currently the 10th pick, but there are a few teams who've played more games than us. We'd be 9th in the East right now.

Tyrese Haliburton is my favorite in that range, but I could see him moving up.

[somuchyummy]

why is haliburton such a divisive pick? seems to check all the boxes - like LOADS of boxes - but is his athleticism, quickness, translatability to the nba in question?

[j2j]

why is haliburton such a divisive pick? seems to check all the boxes - like LOADS of boxes - but is his athleticism, quickness, translatability to the nba in question?

You mean as far as why isnt he higher on all boards? Honestly, dont know. Theres the obvious love "experts" have for one and dones and their preseason rankings.

Quick search I'm finding quotes like...

- "The Iowa State sophomore is one of the most polarizing prospects in recent memory."

What's polarizing about a pass first point guard who is a great defender and can shoot? That hes not a high flying guy who will rip the rim off and doesnt chuck shots off the dribble? Sign me up for that.

[somuchyummy]

i read the same quote and thought the same thing. how is a really nicely sized PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who plays great D, is a great playmaker, and scores incredibly efficiently from everywhere on the court - how exactly is he polarizing? i mean, i'll take it. i'd rather he fall to us than get picked top 4. (btw, he had a stinker game the other day. doesn't dim his light for me at all - just gives me more hope he'll slip to us) edit: maybe stinker game overstates it. iowa state got beat by #2 ranked baylor. haliburton shot just 2-12 with 6 pts - so very uncharacteristic. but he also finished with 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. not exactly stinkaroo except for the shooting.

[H8ter]

Lonzo Ball.

[thinktank]

Haliburton will go around 5th or 6th.

[j2j]

i read the same quote and thought the same thing. how is a really nicely sized PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who plays great D, is a great playmaker, and scores incredibly efficiently from everywhere on the court - how exactly is he polarizing? i mean, i'll take it. i'd rather he fall to us than get picked top 4. (btw, he had a stinker game the other day. doesn't dim his light for me at all - just gives me more hope he'll slip to us) edit: maybe stinker game overstates it. iowa state got beat by #2 ranked baylor. haliburton shot just 2-12 with 6 pts - so very uncharacteristic. but he also finished with 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. not exactly stinkaroo except for the shooting.

So on his worst day he's Rubio.

[somuchyummy]

i read the same quote and thought the same thing. how is a really nicely sized PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who plays great D, is a great playmaker, and scores incredibly efficiently from everywhere on the court - how exactly is he polarizing? i mean, i'll take it. i'd rather he fall to us than get picked top 4. (btw, he had a stinker game the other day. doesn't dim his light for me at all - just gives me more hope he'll slip to us) edit: maybe stinker game overstates it. iowa state got beat by #2 ranked baylor. haliburton shot just 2-12 with 6 pts - so very uncharacteristic. but he also finished with 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. not exactly stinkaroo except for the shooting.

So on his worst day he's Rubio.

basically.

[somuchyummy]

any thoughts about makur maker and his chances for success on the nba level? the comparison is KG - but idk, the vids i see make him look more like a giannis type. anyway, i love his athleticism, his skills, the fact that he's not a complete bean pole, and that he plays with a motor. he's not listed on a lot of mocks because he's still lobbying to get into the draft as a high school kid. watch some vids.

[j2j]

Watching a ballislife video claiming Maker is a 7ft guard and he looks like absolute ass. Turnover after turnover, can't dribble. They did that same shit with Thon, thinking if they call him a guard it would get him more attention and he turned out to be trash. Lot of froobs were hyped about him for some silly reason. So desperate to turn players into unicorns with heavily edited highlight videos.

[somuchyummy]

i didn't think he looked bad. clunky in spots and sure, it's a highlight vid, but a 7 foot high school player that has enough athleticism and skills to move thru traffic while dribbling - gives you hope for his future. i wonder how clunky and mistake free KG and the freak looked at that age. (the freak must still lead the league in TOs - everytime i check his boxscore, he has 6 or so). i agree maker's not going to be a PG - but there's certainly a lot of raw material to work with there to develop as a SF/PF/C - especially if you got him on a second round pick. let's just say i saw more there nbawise than i saw last year in bol bol vids.

[somuchyummy]

read an interesting article in the paper today about freddy gillespie - baylor's center who hails from minnesota - and who just a couple years ago was playing for carlton?!?!? anyway, his emergence as a legit force on one of the best teams in college ball is pretty incredible - so now there's even talk that he might get pro interest. there's a lot to like in the second round - athletic, really solid smart kid, super hard worker - 6-9 with an absurd 7-6 wingspan.

[j2j]

I've seen Gillespie listed as a 1st rounder in some spots, late lottery.

[somuchyummy]

where? see - this is just a weird mocking year. stuff's all over the place. killian hayes shows up overall #3 in a recent mock - other mocks have him late first. again, why we are tanking this year is absurd. just do the research and we should be able to get a good piece without having to throw away a season.

[Thrillkill]

why is haliburton such a divisive pick? seems to check all the boxes - like LOADS of boxes - but is his athleticism, quickness, translatability to the nba in question?

He is not a top athlete he's been able to shoot for about half a year now. He's smart and uses his length well. Kind of sounds a lot like MCW doesn't it. Anyone taking the next MCW in the lotto?

[somuchyummy]

i guess if you want to throw out comps you can. but williams college 31% three point percentage is considerably south of haliburton's 41% mark. just that alone separates him in a pretty significant way.

[Thrillkill]

i guess if you want to throw out comps you can. but williams college 31% three point percentage is considerably south of haliburton's 41% mark. just that alone separates him in a pretty significant way.

And we are all of half way through one season of those numbers. He didn't shoot that last year. He's not shooting a ton of 3's a game. And college 3 shooting is the least translatable.

I like the guy and think he's a pro but can definitely see why some are wary.

[j2j]

The fuck?

Last year 43% on 3 attempts per game. This year 39% on 6 attempts per game.

[witljon]

Who do they take?

Well, if we were to somehow land D’Angelo Russell without giving up our pick, I’d say the homer pick of Daniel Oturu would be a great fit.

[somuchyummy]

MCW's college three pt numbers were somewhat translatable - 31% in college, 25% in the pros. let's just say the trend looks more hopeful with tyrese.

[Thrillkill]

The fuck?

Last year 43% on 3 attempts per game. This year 39% on 6 attempts per game.

Not the stats I remember seeing watching him this week. Still not a good shooter by what I saw.

[somuchyummy]

The fuck?

Last year 43% on 3 attempts per game. This year 39% on 6 attempts per game.

Not the stats I remember seeing watching him this week. Still not a good shooter by what I saw.

the thing on haliburton is that he's been a really efficient scorer - to the point that his coach has expressed a wish that he'd shoot more often. .434 on 3.2 threes per game his freshman year - and .388 on 6.1 attempts per game this year. 3 year total of 87 of 211 - maybe not updated after the last game. career average of .412 on 4.1 attempts per game. extremely efficient when you add in his career 63% on twos. the king of college threes for the past two years - arkansas' isaiah joe has a career avg of .391 from deep. he launches them continually, that's his deal - 179 of 458 over two seasons. haliburton's no slouch, despite what you saw the other day.

[UnFadeable21]

I’m taking Cassius Winston

Give me a floor general PG and who can shoot