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Woj Bomb! Teague/Graham gone
- irishman89
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Russell was soooo bad in their last game, and most games I watch him play. Terrified of bringing him in.
- flexbuffchest
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Also opens up a roster spot.
UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm Edwards Negatives:
Low IQ
Low Motor
Bad Shot Selection
Bad defense
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- flexbuffchest
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It's less wings
Shipped out two and got one back
UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm Edwards Negatives:
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- mglviks
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With Crabbe being unable to be packaged our trade possibilities shrunk big time. If Rosas has a second move planned (Trading Ricky for the Okogie pick and then signing JFT) so be it. If not, the man has made two bad trades in one year and tanked a playoff viable season.
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Yeah...I know it's tight, so tight that they couldn't ask for Culver even if they were greedy fucks. But value wise...considering both teams next year. GS would have the highest paid bench player in the league on an already capped team. Meanwhile, Cov is coveted by all contending teams and Dieng has actually made his way into an asset that a team wouldn't mind taking on. Especially a team like GS who really only has Looney as their only competent big. Value wise, situations....Dlo for Cov and Dieng are a pretty fair deal. And part of that is because Dlo has just been meh....we know he can play better, but he's not shown out that hard for GS, certainly not enough for them to demand our 1st rounder outright this year. Oke would a settling point for me....I could handle losing him more than losing our pick, especially without protection.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:46 pmI don't know that it will be much more as far as players go than Covington and Dieng for Russell and Evans. The Warriors are hard capped and a deal including Okogie might be hard. But I have not done the math on it so I could be wrong.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:43 pmThis is the wise play....something else will have to be added, whether it's a protected pick or a guy like Okogie....but giving the pick next year flat outright is too much given both teams situations.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:38 pm
Part of my thinking. In a "normal" year the GSW would allow us to swap picks, not this year. So having leverage to recoup value won't not exist if we wait, taking away the point really, but I don't like sending out a pick to a team when we are making them better. If I were looking at something I might offer a 2022 pick swap. It keeps us in the draft a flyer might fall to the back half, GS might have a chance at a higher pick in the double draft. That and probably a 2nd.
CHECKED. You can add Okogie and Robinson to the deal and it seems to work.
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Especially next to Barrett who is looking similar to WigginsSO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:42 pmWiggins in NY? Yes please! Comedy gold.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:28 pmHow are we shedding nearly 50 million in cap space and winding up with Smith or Holiday?irishman89 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm Crabbe won't ever suit up here. He's barely played in 2 years due to having one trashed knee. Trashed.
Get ready for DSJ or Aaron Holiday with Wiggins and Covington both gone along the way...my prediction. Rosas knows now moving Wiggins and Teague are the key to keeping Kat happy and building around him for real. I think Kat has personal issues with Teague.
Are you suggesting a Morris/Portis/DSJ for Wiggins and Okogie?! And what does Covington get moved for if we cleared out the main wing guy we have, at that point you'd keep him and push him down to SF where his shooting and defense have a little more shine.
UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm Edwards Negatives:
Low IQ
Low Motor
Bad Shot Selection
Bad defense
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- LordNu
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This Allan Crabbe guy ok?
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Canadian bash brothers....eh?! In all seriousness...having two wings is completely fine, especially since Barrett can shoot some. It's not PG13/Leonard....but having two similar wings isn't a bad thing. Counting on NY handling that well though....that is comedy gold.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:05 pmEspecially next to Barrett who is looking similar to WigginsSO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:42 pmWiggins in NY? Yes please! Comedy gold.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:28 pm
How are we shedding nearly 50 million in cap space and winding up with Smith or Holiday?
Are you suggesting a Morris/Portis/DSJ for Wiggins and Okogie?! And what does Covington get moved for if we cleared out the main wing guy we have, at that point you'd keep him and push him down to SF where his shooting and defense have a little more shine.
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Rosas seems to have a bit of the same fixation on DLO that THIBBS had for Butler.......if it’s DLO or bust for Rosas - I am fine with it at this point and I have ripped on DLO in the past.irishman89 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:53 pm Russell was soooo bad in their last game, and most games I watch him play. Terrified of bringing him in.
Although Dallas may have an extra PG they could move for Covington.
The Wolves are in a real mess at the PG position, IMO KAT is throwing heat on Rosas behind the scenes to address it ASAP or it will get ugly. DLO hasn’t done really anything, but this team is so screwed at PG that a young DLO looks like an answer to some Wolves prayers at this point. His relationship with KAT makes it a worthwhile calculated gamble for me, not to mention he would bring an assassins attitude to the PG position the Wolves haven’t had since Marbury.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
LET’S GO ROSAS!!
GO WOLVES!!
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I agree. Dlo is still more upside that for sure all-star caliber guy and on a huge deal. We don't need to sweeten that thing beyond Cov and Dieng. I would draw a line in the sand there and just look elsewhere in the offseason if it takes more.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:05 pmYeah...I know it's tight, so tight that they couldn't ask for Culver even if they were greedy fucks. But value wise...considering both teams next year. GS would have the highest paid bench player in the league on an already capped team. Meanwhile, Cov is coveted by all contending teams and Dieng has actually made his way into an asset that a team wouldn't mind taking on. Especially a team like GS who really only has Looney as their only competent big. Value wise, situations....Dlo for Cov and Dieng are a pretty fair deal. And part of that is because Dlo has just been meh....we know he can play better, but he's not shown out that hard for GS, certainly not enough for them to demand our 1st rounder outright this year. Oke would a settling point for me....I could handle losing him more than losing our pick, especially without protection.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:46 pmI don't know that it will be much more as far as players go than Covington and Dieng for Russell and Evans. The Warriors are hard capped and a deal including Okogie might be hard. But I have not done the math on it so I could be wrong.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:43 pm
This is the wise play....something else will have to be added, whether it's a protected pick or a guy like Okogie....but giving the pick next year flat outright is too much given both teams situations.
CHECKED. You can add Okogie and Robinson to the deal and it seems to work.
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Culver would make the deal problematic.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:05 pmYeah...I know it's tight, so tight that they couldn't ask for Culver even if they were greedy fucks. But value wise...considering both teams next year. GS would have the highest paid bench player in the league on an already capped team. Meanwhile, Cov is coveted by all contending teams and Dieng has actually made his way into an asset that a team wouldn't mind taking on. Especially a team like GS who really only has Looney as their only competent big. Value wise, situations....Dlo for Cov and Dieng are a pretty fair deal. And part of that is because Dlo has just been meh....we know he can play better, but he's not shown out that hard for GS, certainly not enough for them to demand our 1st rounder outright this year. Oke would a settling point for me....I could handle losing him more than losing our pick, especially without protection.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:46 pmI don't know that it will be much more as far as players go than Covington and Dieng for Russell and Evans. The Warriors are hard capped and a deal including Okogie might be hard. But I have not done the math on it so I could be wrong.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:43 pm
This is the wise play....something else will have to be added, whether it's a protected pick or a guy like Okogie....but giving the pick next year flat outright is too much given both teams situations.
CHECKED. You can add Okogie and Robinson to the deal and it seems to work.
- mglviks
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Does feel like Rosas couldve at least squeezed out a 2nd rounder.
- mglviks
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Whos the next trade for?:
DLo
AHoliday
Brunson
DSJ
Rozier
DLo
AHoliday
Brunson
DSJ
Rozier
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YOu realize it has to be contracts that GSW would take back in the deal, right???
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I think we have them or they are moronic. Covington is a perfect fit for them, Dieng is two-fold. 1. he provides a positional need, 2. he is a 2021 expiring in a deep FA market who will either provide value by being re-signed for less or traded to a team with a big contract. Past that it is sweetener Okogie, picks ect...
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If we lose Cov for DLo we can just kiss any defensive improvement at all goodbye.
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They are not going to take 2 years of Dieng. That is idiotic. If they trade Russell that is because htey want to unload the salary slot, not take on more 2020-21 salary.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:50 pmI think we have them or they are moronic. Covington is a perfect fit for them, Dieng is two-fold. 1. he provides a positional need, 2. he is a 2021 expiring in a deep FA market who will either provide value by being re-signed for less or traded to a team with a big contract. Past that it is sweetener Okogie, picks ect...
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That's quite hyperbolic if it's a serious statement. Crabbe was a second rounder who got paid the summer of the giant jump in the cap, when guys like Bazemore, Turner, Parsons, Batum, Deng, Noah and Mozgov were all reeling in $70+ mil. He was never going to live up to that contract.winforlose wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:11 pmSee for yourself. Overpaid, always injured, and massive underperformer for the money.
So, bigger bust than Wigs? Come on, man.
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LOL. Dieng and Covington make them a better team, period. AND there is probably no team that will give up that much in terms of what they need. You might find a team that will give up a couple of young guys and/or picks, but is that what the GSW's want? Dieng is not really a bad contract to that team, better than DLo anyways. Moreover unloading Russells salary doesn't do them anything, they are over the cap, do you not understand how this works? You think they want a 27 mil TPE they may never use to get players that help them as much as the ones we can offer? I am not saying a deal is going to happen, but we have a more than fair offer for a player we might be one of the only teams willing to take on his contract.mlhouse wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:52 pmThey are not going to take 2 years of Dieng. That is idiotic. If they trade Russell that is because htey want to unload the salary slot, not take on more 2020-21 salary.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:50 pmI think we have them or they are moronic. Covington is a perfect fit for them, Dieng is two-fold. 1. he provides a positional need, 2. he is a 2021 expiring in a deep FA market who will either provide value by being re-signed for less or traded to a team with a big contract. Past that it is sweetener Okogie, picks ect...
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Trading for Dlo to keep KAT happy has shades of KG and the resigning of T-Hud.
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They would not stop laughing at any deal involving Dieng...SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:01 pmLOL. Dieng and Covington make them a better team, period. AND there is probably no team that will give up that much in terms of what they need. You might find a team that will give up a couple of young guys and/or picks, but is that what the GSW's want? Dieng is not really a bad contract to that team, better than DLo anyways. Moreover unloading Russells salary doesn't do them anything, they are over the cap, do you not understand how this works? You think they want a 27 mil TPE they may never use to get players that help them as much as the ones we can offer? I am not saying a deal is going to happen, but we have a more than fair offer for a player we might be one of the only teams willing to take on his contract.mlhouse wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:52 pmThey are not going to take 2 years of Dieng. That is idiotic. If they trade Russell that is because htey want to unload the salary slot, not take on more 2020-21 salary.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:50 pm
I think we have them or they are moronic. Covington is a perfect fit for them, Dieng is two-fold. 1. he provides a positional need, 2. he is a 2021 expiring in a deep FA market who will either provide value by being re-signed for less or traded to a team with a big contract. Past that it is sweetener Okogie, picks ect...