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Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:55 pm Jon Krawczynski

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Rosas on the flexibility this deal gives Wolves:
"We want to be positioned where we can take advantage of opportunities that present themselves where you can acquire a high-level player and give a team savings if they need it."
He is so full of shit. And full of himself. And he is shit so it makes sense.
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SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 pm
YBBR wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:30 pm
NotRasho wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:47 pm If we trade for Dlo we might as well pack it up, were done for 5 years minimum.

Its literally a better idea to blow it up, trade Towns, trade everything, than to trade for Dlo. Hes a borderline negative player on a max contract, hes Wiggins caliber.

But hey, TV told you hes an all star!

Just fucking puke.
I agree. He's a volume scorer with no major standout skills. He doesn't play D, turns the ball over at a high clip, an okay passer but nothing out of the ordinary. I think if people are expecting Russell to take this team to another level, they will be woefully dissatisfied with his play.
If we acquire dlo I’d imagine it would lead to Wiggins on his way out as well, that’s what was speculated in the offseason when we went after dlo. Towns-dlo-a third piece is not a bad core to plan around. The people opposed to dlo think he would need to carry this team, which wouldn’t be the case
Who's the "third piece" you have virtually no assets left after the DLo trade.

Who's taking Wiggins? No one!
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Thrillkill wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:59 pm
Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:55 pm Jon Krawczynski

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Rosas on the flexibility this deal gives Wolves:
"We want to be positioned where we can take advantage of opportunities that present themselves where you can acquire a high-level player and give a team savings if they need it."
He is so full of shit. And full of himself. And he is shit so it makes sense.
Why?
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Listen, boy's. This is just a "Reshuffling" of sorts. Nothing to see here.

These moves were completely manufactured in the pursuit of DLO.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:31 pm Listen, boy's. This is just a "Reshuffling" of sorts. Nothing to see here.

These moves were completely manufactured in the pursuit of DLO.
I’ve read that too. I just don’t see how it helps.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:01 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 pm
YBBR wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:30 pm
I agree. He's a volume scorer with no major standout skills. He doesn't play D, turns the ball over at a high clip, an okay passer but nothing out of the ordinary. I think if people are expecting Russell to take this team to another level, they will be woefully dissatisfied with his play.
If we acquire dlo I’d imagine it would lead to Wiggins on his way out as well, that’s what was speculated in the offseason when we went after dlo. Towns-dlo-a third piece is not a bad core to plan around. The people opposed to dlo think he would need to carry this team, which wouldn’t be the case
Who's the "third piece" you have virtually no assets left after the DLo trade.

Who's taking Wiggins? No one!
Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
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Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:27 pm Robert Covington Trade Talks Pick Up With Rockets, Mavs, 76ers Interested
Let the bidding war begin!

The DLo leak can only help.
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SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:01 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 pm

If we acquire dlo I’d imagine it would lead to Wiggins on his way out as well, that’s what was speculated in the offseason when we went after dlo. Towns-dlo-a third piece is not a bad core to plan around. The people opposed to dlo think he would need to carry this team, which wouldn’t be the case
Who's the "third piece" you have virtually no assets left after the DLo trade.

Who's taking Wiggins? No one!
Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
Had one all lined up for Garland too.
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SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:01 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 pm

If we acquire dlo I’d imagine it would lead to Wiggins on his way out as well, that’s what was speculated in the offseason when we went after dlo. Towns-dlo-a third piece is not a bad core to plan around. The people opposed to dlo think he would need to carry this team, which wouldn’t be the case
Who's the "third piece" you have virtually no assets left after the DLo trade.

Who's taking Wiggins? No one!
Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:01 pm

Who's the "third piece" you have virtually no assets left after the DLo trade.

Who's taking Wiggins? No one!
Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
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Teague and Graham are great to have gone.

Wiggins next please.
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Bob Wiley wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:31 pm Listen, boy's. This is just a "Reshuffling" of sorts. Nothing to see here.

These moves were completely manufactured in the pursuit of DLO.
I’ve read that too. I just don’t see how it helps.
Strike 1 Garland
Strike 2 DLO (1st attempt)
Strike 3 .... unless there is a following deal in place to improve the roster Rosas is whiffing again with the Crabbe trade

I’m not sure Prigioni was around for Crabbe in BRK but if he was I’m concerned they traded for him because they like him...
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j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:35 pm

Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm
SKOLMN wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:35 pm

Rosas claimed he had a deal for Wiggins lined up had dlo not opted for golden st.

With crabbe’s deal off the books next year, the hope you can off load dieng’s deal and use that space to acquire a third piece.
If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Teague was off the books next year as well. You have to imagine/hope they ship out an expiring PG for an expiring chucker because they have plans to bring in another PG. But they had plans for PGs Garland and DLO and Rosas couldn’t deliver so we may be left we Culver and an expiring chucker. At least he isn’t trying to sell signing mana from heaven
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jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:50 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm

If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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Step 1 was Dlo was choosing us over the Warriors which didn't happen.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:02 pm
jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:50 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm

All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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Step 1 was Dlo was choosing us over the Warriors which didn't happen.
Step 2 was Rosas riding around in a helicopter with DLO and KAT after Step 1 had been agreed to, looking like a total dildo.
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jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:07 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:02 pm
jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:50 pm

Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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Step 1 was Dlo was choosing us over the Warriors which didn't happen.
Step 2 was Rosas riding around in a helicopter with DLO and KAT after Step 1 had been agreed to, looking like a total dildo.
DLo had already decided to go to the Warriors before the helicopter ride and everyone found out during the ride...

Right from the get go DLo chose the Warriors and was just giving the Wolves the run around.
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jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:50 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm

If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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populousample wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm

If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Teague was off the books next year as well. You have to imagine/hope they ship out an expiring PG for an expiring chucker because they have plans to bring in another PG. But they had plans for PGs Garland and DLO and Rosas couldn’t deliver so we may be left we Culver and an expiring chucker. At least he isn’t trying to sell signing mana from heaven
Can you repeat the part where you said all about the things?
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Someone give me a TL/DR on this thread, please.


We traded Teague/Graham (two players I can absolutely do without) for Alan Crabbe? He's kind of a nobody wing, right? This isn't a "we're getting better" deal, right? This is a "were positioning for something else" deal, right?
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:50 pm Someone give me a TL/DR on this thread, please.


We traded Teague/Graham (two players I can absolutely do without) for Alan Crabbe? He's kind of a nobody wing, right? This isn't a "we're getting better" deal, right? This is a "were positioning for something else" deal, right?
Correct.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:53 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:50 pm Someone give me a TL/DR on this thread, please.


We traded Teague/Graham (two players I can absolutely do without) for Alan Crabbe? He's kind of a nobody wing, right? This isn't a "we're getting better" deal, right? This is a "were positioning for something else" deal, right?
Correct.
So what is the value?

Teague seems to be the superior player in the deal. Both he and Crabbe are expiring. Why do the deal? I don't mind it, but what flexibility did we gain? Did we get a draft pick back or something? Is it just the roster spot we clear by dumping Graham in a 2 for 1?
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:06 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:53 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:50 pm Someone give me a TL/DR on this thread, please.


We traded Teague/Graham (two players I can absolutely do without) for Alan Crabbe? He's kind of a nobody wing, right? This isn't a "we're getting better" deal, right? This is a "were positioning for something else" deal, right?
Correct.
So what is the value?

Teague seems to be the superior player in the deal. Both he and Crabbe are expiring. Why do the deal? I don't mind it, but what flexibility did we gain? Did we get a draft pick back or something? Is it just the roster spot we clear by dumping Graham in a 2 for 1?
Open roster spot which which we could use to bring up some GLeaguer's or, most likely, just more flexibility in trades in the sense that we wont have to send an equal amount of players in a trade.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:06 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:53 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:50 pm Someone give me a TL/DR on this thread, please.


We traded Teague/Graham (two players I can absolutely do without) for Alan Crabbe? He's kind of a nobody wing, right? This isn't a "we're getting better" deal, right? This is a "were positioning for something else" deal, right?
Correct.
So what is the value?

Teague seems to be the superior player in the deal. Both he and Crabbe are expiring. Why do the deal? I don't mind it, but what flexibility did we gain? Did we get a draft pick back or something? Is it just the roster spot we clear by dumping Graham in a 2 for 1?
We opened up 2.1mil in space away from the Luxury Tax, which we're hard capped from going over that, so it helps, plus the extra roster spot. As well as Crabbe's bird rights, a player who is familiar with both Pablo and David, if we do desire keeping him. While getting rid of 2 guys who didnt fit. It's obviously not a slam dunk trade, but rather a likely sign of things to come.
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j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:22 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:06 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:53 pm

Correct.
So what is the value?

Teague seems to be the superior player in the deal. Both he and Crabbe are expiring. Why do the deal? I don't mind it, but what flexibility did we gain? Did we get a draft pick back or something? Is it just the roster spot we clear by dumping Graham in a 2 for 1?
We opened up 2.1mil in space away from the Luxury Tax, which we're hard capped from going over that, so it helps, plus the extra roster spot. As well as Crabbe's bird rights, a player who is familiar with both Pablo and David, if we do desire keeping him. While getting rid of 2 guys who didnt fit. It's obviously not a slam dunk trade, but rather a likely sign of things to come.
Sure. So bottom line, nothing to get real excited about. But maybe more to come.
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jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:50 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:20 pm

If he had a deal for Wiggins and didn't take it, he's a moron.
All reports I've seen on the matter said he had a deal(s) lined up to make DLo happen. Not sure if they were necessarily Wiggins. But the other team(s) pulled out, making the DLo signing impossible even if he did want to come here.
Rosas said he had a path to DLO, this was it:

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Jodaaaa just sit back and let Rosas work his magic
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Since no one agrees with me about Teague, I thought I would share this link. Though still somewhat opinion based, read what they say about Teague’s numbers and value. This was an absolute waste unless you seriously intend to sign and keep Crabbe. If you do, then you just committed to trading away one of our already plentiful wings. Okogie, Culver, Nowell, Roco, Layman, And KBD can all fill the position. Crabbe is unable to be packaged in a trade until after the deadline and his contract expires at the end of the season. His bird rights are still ours for a sign and trade, but that is essentially the only value we got for Teague. I give this D+ at best.

Edit to add. If you convert Martin from G league to NBA contract, now you are even more log jammed at the wing.

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Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:24 pm
j2j wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:22 pm
Beef Supreme wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:06 pm

So what is the value?

Teague seems to be the superior player in the deal. Both he and Crabbe are expiring. Why do the deal? I don't mind it, but what flexibility did we gain? Did we get a draft pick back or something? Is it just the roster spot we clear by dumping Graham in a 2 for 1?
We opened up 2.1mil in space away from the Luxury Tax, which we're hard capped from going over that, so it helps, plus the extra roster spot. As well as Crabbe's bird rights, a player who is familiar with both Pablo and David, if we do desire keeping him. While getting rid of 2 guys who didnt fit. It's obviously not a slam dunk trade, but rather a likely sign of things to come.
Sure. So bottom line, nothing to get real excited about. But maybe more to come.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:12 pm
jodaman01 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:07 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:02 pm
Step 1 was Dlo was choosing us over the Warriors which didn't happen.
Step 2 was Rosas riding around in a helicopter with DLO and KAT after Step 1 had been agreed to, looking like a total dildo.
DLo had already decided to go to the Warriors before the helicopter ride and everyone found out during the ride...

Right from the get go DLo chose the Warriors and was just giving the Wolves the run around.
Somwhow he gives KAT no blame there despite it being his bff.
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