2020 Trade Deadline Chatter (Feb. 6 @ 2:00 PM CST)

[SO_MONEY]

I would do this trade:

Covington to Sixers for Mattisse Thybulle, a 2022 first round pick lottery protected, salary filler Mike Scott and Trey Burke.

Just make it Thybulle, Scott and a FRP and I do it. Looking at tea leaves I could see PHI being the winners in getting Covington.

Well, you do realize that there needs to be salary filler, right?

LOL. My trade works. Scott is enough salary filler. Additionally, we only have ONE extra roster spot. Why do you need to fight everything?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sa52whg

[winforlose]

Just make it Thybulle, Scott and a FRP and I do it. Looking at tea leaves I could see PHI being the winners in getting Covington.

Well, you do realize that there needs to be salary filler, right?

LOL. My trade works. Scott is enough salary filler. Additionally, we only have ONE extra roster spot. Why do you need to fight everything?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sa52whg

What about Roco for Richardson and 2 second round picks? Richardson has one less year on his contract and is not as good at defense, but honestly, with Roco on the 76ers Richardson moves to the bench anyway. Roco is an upgrade to Richardson for Philly and we get 2 extra picks that we might be able to package later in trying to find a PG. Assuming Wiggins is part of that trade.

[SO_MONEY]

Well, you do realize that there needs to be salary filler, right?

LOL. My trade works. Scott is enough salary filler. Additionally, we only have ONE extra roster spot. Why do you need to fight everything?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sa52whg

What about Roco for Richardson and 2 second round picks? Richardson has one less year on his contract and is not as good at defense, but honestly, with Roco on the 76ers Richardson moves to the bench anyway. Roco is an upgrade to Richardson for Philly and we get 2 extra picks that we might be able to package later in trying to find a PG. Assuming Wiggins is part of that trade.

I don't think they would swap Richardson for RoCo. I wouldn't. I sure wouldn't include twp 2nds. I also think it is more likely Horford moves to the bench (there are fit issues) than Richardson. Lastly, I would probably rather invest in Thybulle and a 1st with where this team is and wants to be in a couple of years.

[thinktank]

is the only logical destination for cov a contender? any chance cleveland might be interested in a straight cov for larry nance swap? don't laugh. nance is also a tough defender, very athletic, two years younger than cov, more a pure PF who rebounds better (per 36 of 10 whereas roco is about 7 per 36) AND they both are hitting about 35% from three this year. the reason i ask is because maybe the cavs could also be convinced to part with a second rounder, which will probably be in the 30s for the foreseeable future. love, thompson, zizic, henson- they've got some bigs - so maybe would be open to shoring up the 3 spot, currently occupied by cedi osman.

You’re a good poster.

Your scenario may be a little too creative.

I have always been a fan of nance. As long as we are apparently parting ways with roco, i was just thinking of guys id like in a wolves uni.

I think they’re trading Love, not Nance.

[T_J]

is the only logical destination for cov a contender? any chance cleveland might be interested in a straight cov for larry nance swap? don't laugh. nance is also a tough defender, very athletic, two years younger than cov, more a pure PF who rebounds better (per 36 of 10 whereas roco is about 7 per 36) AND they both are hitting about 35% from three this year. the reason i ask is because maybe the cavs could also be convinced to part with a second rounder, which will probably be in the 30s for the foreseeable future. love, thompson, zizic, henson- they've got some bigs - so maybe would be open to shoring up the 3 spot, currently occupied by cedi osman.

You’re a good poster.

Your scenario may be a little too creative.

I would do this trade:

Covington to Sixers for Mattisse Thybulle, a 2022 first round pick lottery protected, salary filler Mike Scott and Trey Burke.

Lol. Why would philly do that?

[j2j]

Why does the name Caleb Swanigan sound familiar?

Purdue?

He must have lit up the Gophers pretty good.

[j2j]

I'm intrigued by this deal...



Just a twitter idea, nothing legitimate. But RoCo and Gorgui for a couple of expirings and a FRP. Saves Portland money by reducing $5mil over the lux line, and adds a better defensive wing.

Wolves basically spend $5mil to get a FRP, and then cut future salary. Suddenly we have cap space for this summer to make trades MUCH easier, plus 2 FRPs.

[thinktank]

Portland would not do that. They’ll want to keep their pick, especially this year, because they such too.

[jodaman01]

Portland would not do that. They’ll want to keep their pick, especially this year, because they such too.

They are like MN in that FA don’t look to go to Portland. They have to trade or draft to get talent.

[mlhouse]

You’re a good poster.

Your scenario may be a little too creative.

I would do this trade:

Covington to Sixers for Mattisse Thybulle, a 2022 first round pick lottery protected, salary filler Mike Scott and Trey Burke.

Lol. Why would philly do that?

That would be the cost to acquire a player like Robert Covington. What would you request for him?

[SO_MONEY]

I'm intrigued by this deal...



Just a twitter idea, nothing legitimate. But RoCo and Gorgui for a couple of expirings and a FRP. Saves Portland money by reducing $5mil over the lux line, and adds a better defensive wing.

Wolves basically spend $5mil to get a FRP, and then cut future salary. Suddenly we have cap space for this summer to make trades MUCH easier, plus 2 FRPs.

Covington is worth more than a FRP on his own, awful. Gourgi we can let expire and have the nearly same space or if we keep him we could move him for a first to a team that wants space in a stacked FA class. God I am glad he is not our GM. You maximize your assets.

Worth mentioning you are under the impression this gives us space this summer, it doesn't, it gives space NEXT year. Whiteside make 27 mil for the next two years, granted he has a player option I believe (he won't turn it down). All this does is create 5.3mil in space we otherwise would not have in 2021. Then again if you maximize Covington alone you likely get the same result plus a young player as well. It is just a stupid trade that basically gives away Covington.

[SO_MONEY]

Portland would not do that. They’ll want to keep their pick, especially this year, because they such too.

Portland would absolutely do this.

[thinktank]

Portland would not do that. They’ll want to keep their pick, especially this year, because they such too.

Portland would absolutely do this.

Prove it.

[SO_MONEY]

Portland would not do that. They’ll want to keep their pick, especially this year, because they such too.

Portland would absolutely do this.

Prove it.

Because they would be foolish not to. Whiteside and Hood is not better than Covington and Dieng, they can make a run, then if they want to change course they can let Gourgi expire or take longer-term salary back and get a pick back and or trade Covington for a FRP. They get more value than they are giving. It is a no-brainer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thinktank]

1. Whiteside >>> Dieng

2. Covington is nice on a two year deal but a top ten maybe five pick on less money and 2 more years is nice too. As someone maybe you said, Portland has trouble finding players. How did they get Lillard and McCollum? Smart drafting. That’s where their pick is going to be. You do not trade that potential for Cov, as good a player as he is. Cov is no McCollum or Lillard.

I’m telling you, that deal does not make sense for Portland.

[SO_MONEY]

1. Whiteside >>> Dieng

2. Covington is nice on a two year deal but a top ten maybe five pick on less money and 2 more years is nice too. As someone maybe you said, Portland has trouble finding players. How did they get Lillard and McCollum? Smart drafting. That’s where their pick is going to be. You do not trade that potential for Cov, as good a player as he is. Cov is no McCollum or Lillard.

I’m telling you, that deal does not make sense for Portland.

It is 2020, get over your thoughts Whiteside is actually good or helpful to a team. No one wants him, he is from the island of misfit toys.

I addressed your pick value problem.

A more realistic trade would be swapping Hood for Little, I wish we could get Simions, that is unlikely.

[somuchyummy]

still say we should see if portland is interested in a straight andrew for cj swap.

why would this make sense for portland? they're already committed to similar money to mccollum for the same number of years - so it's not like they're taking on anything extra dollarswise. they just traded bazemore, hood's out with a torn achilles, and melo and ariza are both past retirement - so it would be in their best interests to get a player more capable of sizing up with opponents' SFs, like andrew can do. they are already undersized with their two PG tandem of lillard and cj. finally, they have two young players who are more logically SGs than SFs - anfernee simons and gary trent jr - who have both shown extremely nice flashes (trent a 30 pt game this week and simons a 37 pt game last april), and who should be getting more PT - but are both going to be on the brown end of that stick as long as lillard and mccollum command most of the PT in the backcourt. bringing in andrew as their starting SF (who for his career has averaged about a point more per game than CJ) allows them to cultivate this young SG talent in a steadier way.

why would minny do this? because cj can both play the point (which we need) AND get his own points (replacing the loss of wigs' offense). also opens up more PT for okogie, culver, layman, crabbe?, nowell and the rest of our wing group.

[SO_MONEY]

still say we should see if portland is interested in a straight andrew for cj swap.

why would this make sense for portland? they're already committed to similar money to mccollum for the same number of years - so it's not like they're taking on anything extra dollarswise. they just traded bazemore, hood's out with a torn achilles, and melo can't last more than another year at the SF spot - so it would be in their best interests to get a player more capable of sizing up with opponents' SFs, like andrew can do. they are already undersized with their two PG tandem of lillard and cj. finally, they have two young players who are more logically SGs than SFs - anfernee simons and gary trent jr - who have both shown extremely nice flashes (trent a 30 pt game this week and simons a 37 pt game last april), and who should be getting more PT - but are both going to be on the brown end of that stick as long as lillard and mccollum command most of the PT in the backcourt. bringing in andrew as their starting SF (who for his career has averaged about a point more per game than CJ) allows them to cultivate this young SG talent in a steadier way.

why would minny do this? because cj can both play the point AND get his own points. also opens up more PT for okogie, culver, layman, nowell and the rest of our wing group.

Pass on CJ. What we don't want to do is try and middle.

[somuchyummy]

what does try and middle mean?

[SO_MONEY]

what does try and middle mean?

Really? Okay. It is a common term.

It means you are aiming to be average.

In sports it means you are good enough to be average but too good to improve substantially on your standing.

[j2j]

I'm intrigued by this deal...



Just a twitter idea, nothing legitimate. But RoCo and Gorgui for a couple of expirings and a FRP. Saves Portland money by reducing $5mil over the lux line, and adds a better defensive wing.

Wolves basically spend $5mil to get a FRP, and then cut future salary. Suddenly we have cap space for this summer to make trades MUCH easier, plus 2 FRPs.

Covington is worth more than a FRP on his own, awful. Gourgi we can let expire and have the nearly same space or if we keep him we could move him for a first to a team that wants space in a stacked FA class. God I am glad he is not our GM. You maximize your assets.

Worth mentioning you are under the impression this gives us space this summer, it doesn't, it gives space NEXT year. Whiteside make 27 mil for the next two years, granted he has a player option I believe (he won't turn it down). All this does is create 5.3mil in space we otherwise would not have in 2021. Then again if you maximize Covington alone you likely get the same result plus a young player as well. It is just a stupid trade that basically gives away Covington.

Sweet rant.

Should I buy your nonsense or bbref, sportrac, and hoopshype?

[somuchyummy]

hadn't heard it before. sorry. i like a wiggins for mccollum swap because cj's got more fire in the belly than drew - which is something that could help the team. what would you expect to get in return for wiggins that lifts us out of the middle?

[j2j]

No chance Portland does a Wig for CJ straight up. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[SO_MONEY]

I'm intrigued by this deal...



Just a twitter idea, nothing legitimate. But RoCo and Gorgui for a couple of expirings and a FRP. Saves Portland money by reducing $5mil over the lux line, and adds a better defensive wing.

Wolves basically spend $5mil to get a FRP, and then cut future salary. Suddenly we have cap space for this summer to make trades MUCH easier, plus 2 FRPs.

Covington is worth more than a FRP on his own, awful. Gourgi we can let expire and have the nearly same space or if we keep him we could move him for a first to a team that wants space in a stacked FA class. God I am glad he is not our GM. You maximize your assets.

Worth mentioning you are under the impression this gives us space this summer, it doesn't, it gives space NEXT year. Whiteside make 27 mil for the next two years, granted he has a player option I believe (he won't turn it down). All this does is create 5.3mil in space we otherwise would not have in 2021. Then again if you maximize Covington alone you likely get the same result plus a young player as well. It is just a stupid trade that basically gives away Covington.

Sweet rant.

Should I buy your nonsense or bbref, sportrac, and hoopshype?

ESPN trade Machine has him at 2 years remaining. My bad if that is wrong (it seems to be). Still, having space this year is pointless, we want space next year. It doesn't add value to the trade that is for sure.

[j2j]

Covington is worth more than a FRP on his own, awful. Gourgi we can let expire and have the nearly same space or if we keep him we could move him for a first to a team that wants space in a stacked FA class. God I am glad he is not our GM. You maximize your assets.

Worth mentioning you are under the impression this gives us space this summer, it doesn't, it gives space NEXT year. Whiteside make 27 mil for the next two years, granted he has a player option I believe (he won't turn it down). All this does is create 5.3mil in space we otherwise would not have in 2021. Then again if you maximize Covington alone you likely get the same result plus a young player as well. It is just a stupid trade that basically gives away Covington.

Sweet rant.

Should I buy your nonsense or bbref, sportrac, and hoopshype?

ESPN trade Machine has him at 2 years remaining. My bad if that is wrong (it seems to be). Still, having space this year is pointless, we want space next year. It doesn't add value to the trade that is for sure.

Exercised 2019-20 player option Friday, June 21, 2019.
Signed 4-yr/$98M deal on Thursday, July 7, 2016.

Try again.

[SO_MONEY]

Sweet rant.

Should I buy your nonsense or bbref, sportrac, and hoopshype?

ESPN trade Machine has him at 2 years remaining. My bad if that is wrong (it seems to be). Still, having space this year is pointless, we want space next year. It doesn't add value to the trade that is for sure.

Exercised 2019-20 player option Friday, June 21, 2019.
Signed 4-yr/$98M deal on Thursday, July 7, 2016.

Try again.

What? I don't need to try again. It is a fact ESPN trade machine has him at two years remaining, it is a fact that seems to be wrong and I admitted that. Take the mea culpa and try not to be a dick. It is like pulling teeth to get people to admit they were wrong or misspoke on this board, then when someone says "opps I am wrong" people still want to fight. Don't.

[j2j]

ESPN trade Machine has him at 2 years remaining. My bad if that is wrong (it seems to be). Still, having space this year is pointless, we want space next year. It doesn't add value to the trade that is for sure.

Exercised 2019-20 player option Friday, June 21, 2019.
Signed 4-yr/$98M deal on Thursday, July 7, 2016.

Try again.

What? I don't need to try again. It is a fact ESPN trade machine has him at two years remaining, it is a fact that seems to be wrong and I admitted that. Take the mea culpa and try not to be a dick.

Hey, you decided to be a dickbag in your initial reply despite not having a clue what you're talking about.

[SO_MONEY]

Try again.

What? I don't need to try again. It is a fact ESPN trade machine has him at two years remaining, it is a fact that seems to be wrong and I admitted that. Take the mea culpa and try not to be a dick.

Hey, you decided to be a dickbag in your initial reply despite not having a clue what you're talking about.

I wasn't trying to be a dickbag. I was addressing a point I thought was legitimate and needed to be mentioned for your edification, turns out I was the one that needed to be edified. That is all. Moreover I didn't read anything into you correcting me, I was wrong. I do have an issue with wanting to fight when I am willing to admit it. You know being a real dickbag.

[SHAFA]

I’ll admit that I laugh every time someone uses ESPN’s fantasy machine like its some infallible vault of up-to-date, on-the-nose information.

[SO_MONEY]

I’ll admit that I laugh every time someone uses ESPN’s fantasy machine like its some infallible vault of up-to-date, on-the-nose information.

I should have double checked, but even the Twitter post said "next year", which served as some validation. Though they probably meant 'next season'. Again, my bad.