*** 8-5 Utah Jazz vs 8-6 MSP Wolves - 7pm FSN ***

[j2j]

Is our roster at 15 though? I don't think we need to cut anyone as we have the spot open.

We dont have a spot open.

Are two-ways considered roster spots? I am really confused as to how it all works now.

We have 5 freaking rookies in our side, FIVE. That's insane, and awesome, and scary.

We have 15 players under contract, plus two 2-way players for a total of 17, which is the max.

[jodaman01]

Fantastic shooting. What can you do?

Maybe not take a shot 45 times that you shoot 30% on?

Should have got KAT working inside that game. Jazz had a mission to keep KAT from shooting 3’s. KAT needs to go work inside when that happens and then work his way back outside.

Such a waste.

[j2j]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

I'm a fan. Couple minor complaints, but overall I'm happy.

[LordNu]

We dont have a spot open.

Are two-ways considered roster spots? I am really confused as to how it all works now.

We have 5 freaking rookies in our side, FIVE. That's insane, and awesome, and scary.

We have 15 players under contract, plus two 2-way players for a total of 17, which is the max.

Yep, you are correct sir. Don't know why I thought we kept a spot open.

[YBBR]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

I thought he started off rough. Not making as much defensive impact as usual. Having trouble finishing and taking pretty questionable 3's.

I think he's turned some of that around and he's starting to find his groove again. Defensively he's really flashed his team defensive IQ that makes him so dangerous in passing lanes and helping.

[Thrillkill]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

He's an obvious 3 playing 4 because the oblivious 2 and their terrible mandate say so.

[LordNu]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

I thought he started off rough. Not making as much defensive impact as usual. Having trouble finishing and taking pretty questionable 3's.

I think he's turned some of that around and he's starting to find his groove again. Defensively he's really flashed his team defensive IQ that makes him so dangerous in passing lanes and helping.

He was so devastating last season, but he didn't start very strong. Good that he is coming about, as he is supposed to be our third best players (and trade piece for Russell).

[JoeBagO'Donuts]

Only thing worse than the outcome, the postgame show.

[Beef Supreme]

Bad shooting night. Bummer.

[ChrisPaulGeorgeHill]

I think Utah is going to be a top 4 team in the West at the end of the season.

Better team won.

That said, if I were an NBA player, I might just see if I could ask out the blonde female ref tonight.....

[j2j]

Only thing worse than the outcome, the postgame show.

Final buzzer and change the channel.

[SHAFA]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

I thought he started off rough. Not making as much defensive impact as usual. Having trouble finishing and taking pretty questionable 3's.

I think he's turned some of that around and he's starting to find his groove again. Defensively he's really flashed his team defensive IQ that makes him so dangerous in passing lanes and helping.

Yeah, his weak side defense is still fantastic. I think it's one of the reasons they can actually give up some size and still get away with playing him at the 4. I'd just rather see it be a short-term rather than long-term thing.

[jodaman01]

Only thing worse than the outcome, the postgame show.

Sabo and Lynch make me want to change the channel, even after wins.

[jodaman01]

What is everyone's assessment of Covington this season so far?

I thought he started off rough. Not making as much defensive impact as usual. Having trouble finishing and taking pretty questionable 3's.

I think he's turned some of that around and he's starting to find his groove again. Defensively he's really flashed his team defensive IQ that makes him so dangerous in passing lanes and helping.

Yeah, his weak side defense is still fantastic. I think it's one of the reasons they can actually give up some size and still get away with playing him at the 4. I'd just rather see it be a short-term rather than long-term thing.

This. Covington is simply not the same player at the 4, he is less effective. When players like Layman, Graham and Martin look better than him on the floor, I think there is a problem. You can see him on the floor and on the bench, and it’s easy to read him......he ain’t happy.

Continue to use him in this fashion, and trading him will be far less painful. At the same time though with how he is playing, his value on the court and on the trade market are not being maximized.

GO WOLVES!!

[morneaumvp]

Meh game, Wiggs and Towns foul trouble kinda had us behind the 8 ball early

[j2j]

Cov is statistically better this year than last year while playing much more at the 4.

[LordNu]

Cov is statistically better this year than last year while playing much more at the 4.

Eh?? Really?

Looking it up, PER 36 he would be, playing 7 less minutes.

[RubeTube]

I thought he started off rough. Not making as much defensive impact as usual. Having trouble finishing and taking pretty questionable 3's.

I think he's turned some of that around and he's starting to find his groove again. Defensively he's really flashed his team defensive IQ that makes him so dangerous in passing lanes and helping.

Yeah, his weak side defense is still fantastic. I think it's one of the reasons they can actually give up some size and still get away with playing him at the 4. I'd just rather see it be a short-term rather than long-term thing.

This. Covington is simply not the same player at the 4, he is less effective. When players like Layman, Graham and Martin look better than him on the floor, I think there is a problem. You can see him on the floor and on the bench, and it’s easy to read him......he ain’t happy.

Continue to use him in this fashion, and trading him will be far less painful. At the same time though with how he is playing, his value on the court and on the trade market are not being maximized.

GO WOLVES!!

This is always who has been. He's a average starter and a very good role player, nothing more. Ask D H who watched him all through his Philly career. He's been way over hyped here. He played very well in his short stint last year before getting hurt. Wolves fans saw that tiny sample size and really overrated him. He was never going to sustain that play.

It was an atrocious trade.

I would have no problem trading him for something decent.

[jodaman01]

Yeah, his weak side defense is still fantastic. I think it's one of the reasons they can actually give up some size and still get away with playing him at the 4. I'd just rather see it be a short-term rather than long-term thing.

This. Covington is simply not the same player at the 4, he is less effective. When players like Layman, Graham and Martin look better than him on the floor, I think there is a problem. You can see him on the floor and on the bench, and it’s easy to read him......he ain’t happy.

Continue to use him in this fashion, and trading him will be far less painful. At the same time though with how he is playing, his value on the court and on the trade market are not being maximized.

GO WOLVES!!

This is always who has been. He's a average starter and a very good role player, nothing more. Ask D H who watched him all through his Philly career. He's been way over hyped here. He played very well in his short stint last year before getting hurt. Wolves fans saw that tiny sample size and really overrated him. He was never going to sustain that play.

It was an atrocious trade.

I would have no problem trading him for something decent.

He may be.

He is still out of position here.

He is coming back from sustained time off due to injury, he even ended up seeking mental help due to depression from not being able to come back fast from the injury. On top of that he came back to play a position he hasn’t played in quite a while, and not the position he established and focused his game around and gained NBA notoriety for. If I was him and had to watch Graham and Martin play nightly in a position I believed I was far better at, I probably wouldn’t be the happiest guy in the world if I was being played out of place to allow those guys to play that spot.

No he doesn’t look the same and anyone with eyes can see it. How bad would it hurt this Team to move him back to the 3 and get him his mojo back? It’s doesn’t feel like what he is providing at the 4 right now couldn’t be provided adequately by a few other players (Martin, Layman, Diop and Bell - others?) on the Team. Especially if you consider how much more he could provide at the 3 than the players currently playing there.

He was a clear difference maker and a presence on the court last season when he played, this year he doesn’t look like that guy, and it doesn’t even look close.

GO WOLVES!!

[RubeTube]

This. Covington is simply not the same player at the 4, he is less effective. When players like Layman, Graham and Martin look better than him on the floor, I think there is a problem. You can see him on the floor and on the bench, and it’s easy to read him......he ain’t happy.

Continue to use him in this fashion, and trading him will be far less painful. At the same time though with how he is playing, his value on the court and on the trade market are not being maximized.

GO WOLVES!!

This is always who has been. He's a average starter and a very good role player, nothing more. Ask D H who watched him all through his Philly career. He's been way over hyped here. He played very well in his short stint last year before getting hurt. Wolves fans saw that tiny sample size and really overrated him. He was never going to sustain that play.

It was an atrocious trade.

I would have no problem trading him for something decent.

He may be.

He is still out of position here.

He is coming back from sustained time off due to injury, he even ended up seeking mental help due to depression from not being able to come back fast from the injury. On top of that he came back to play a position he hasn’t played in quite a while, and not the position he established and focused his game around and gained NBA notoriety for. If I was him and had to watch Graham and Martin play nightly in a position I believed I was far better at, I probably wouldn’t be the happiest guy in the world if I was being played out of place to allow those guys to play that spot.

No he doesn’t look the same and anyone with eyes can see it. How bad would it hurt this Team to move him back to the 3 and get him his mojo back? It’s doesn’t feel like what he is providing at the 4 right now couldn’t be provided adequately by a few other players (Martin, Layman, Diop and Bell - others?) on the Team. Especially if you consider how much more he could provide at the 3 than the players currently playing there.

He was a clear difference maker and a presence on the court last season when he played, this year he doesn’t look like that guy, and it doesn’t even look close.

GO WOLVES!!

As someone else pointed out to you... His numbers are almost identical to last years. The seasons he played before in Philly are almost identical also.

This is who he is.

[jodaman01]

This is always who has been. He's a average starter and a very good role player, nothing more. Ask D H who watched him all through his Philly career. He's been way over hyped here. He played very well in his short stint last year before getting hurt. Wolves fans saw that tiny sample size and really overrated him. He was never going to sustain that play.

It was an atrocious trade.

I would have no problem trading him for something decent.

He may be.

He is still out of position here.

He is coming back from sustained time off due to injury, he even ended up seeking mental help due to depression from not being able to come back fast from the injury. On top of that he came back to play a position he hasn’t played in quite a while, and not the position he established and focused his game around and gained NBA notoriety for. If I was him and had to watch Graham and Martin play nightly in a position I believed I was far better at, I probably wouldn’t be the happiest guy in the world if I was being played out of place to allow those guys to play that spot.

No he doesn’t look the same and anyone with eyes can see it. How bad would it hurt this Team to move him back to the 3 and get him his mojo back? It’s doesn’t feel like what he is providing at the 4 right now couldn’t be provided adequately by a few other players (Martin, Layman, Diop and Bell - others?) on the Team. Especially if you consider how much more he could provide at the 3 than the players currently playing there.

He was a clear difference maker and a presence on the court last season when he played, this year he doesn’t look like that guy, and it doesn’t even look close.

GO WOLVES!!

As someone else pointed out to you... His numbers are almost identical to last years. The seasons he played before in Philly are almost identical also.

This is who he is.

#’s and statistics (although someone else pointed out a problem with those posted #’s. It doesn’t tell the story on the value he added to the team at all when he was on the floor last season. He was an X Factor and a clear spark, this season he is not.

You can’t say it’s the same simply for the fact, he is out of position.

[j2j]

Cov is statistically better this year than last year while playing much more at the 4.

Eh?? Really?

Looking it up, PER 36 he would be, playing 7 less minutes.

Ryan seems to have placed a greater emphasis on minute management.

[Moses Scurry]

Joda and RT did not watch the game, Bob was fucking everywhere on defense last night and the only spark we had during the second quarter. He was never supposed to be a scorer, 4th option more or less on offense. Without him, it's a 20+ point loss and we are never tied with them all game.

We lost because of lethargic Towns and shooting 50% on free throws, 11-21. Humm, let me see 21 minus 11, hey, that's 10 points. What did we lose by? 8. Yep, those might have helped.

[jffl_commish]

Graham, Culver & Wiggins combining for 24 3's is not a recipe for success.

[Moses Scurry]

Graham, Culver & Wiggins combining for 24 3's is not a recipe for success.

Culver and Graham's three balls are brutal.

[somuchyummy]

didn't see the game. so i'm only boxscoring here. but bojan with 30? how'd that happen? if he wasn't cov's primary responsibility, who had him? and if he was just getting hot and not covered by our all league defender - any ideas why the adjustment wasn't made?

[jodaman01]

didn't see the game. so i'm only boxscoring here. but bojan with 30? how'd that happen? if he wasn't cov's primary responsibility, who had him? and if he was just getting hot and not covered by our all league defender - any ideas why the adjustment wasn't made?

Utah moves the ball very well. Many times it landed in his hands for open looks. Also Rudy inside was disruptive and he knocked a few rebounds back out and into his hands before the Wolves could set up. He is also pretty damn good.

Wolves had no fight inside the paint yesterday, also their free throw shooting was and has been bad.

GO WOLVES!!

[TrueBlue]

This is what I thought we'd get, and I like it a lot.

[Moses Scurry]

Where did that come from?

[j2j]

This is what I thought we'd get, and I like it a lot.

Those are hawt.