Or if you understood that in a flat draft this year 17 was not worth much of a differential. And the 2021 2nd is in the double draft.
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Utah Has Acquired Mike Conley
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Like it a lot for Utah. They're an Ingles upgrade from top 2 in the west.
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Ingles/Exum/pick to the Cavs for K Love.
Conley
Mitchell
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Gobert
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Ha that'd be awesome. I did want to see the Ricky/Love reunion though.
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It will be interesting to see if the Grizzlies keep both Crowder and Korver. They're both on the last year of their team-friendly deals.
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No one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
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You are ignoring the fact that there is a minimum cap number and if you are under it the league just takes it from you. A team that is 19 under the salary floor Teague costs them not one thin dime. And you also ignore that he is a good player on an expiring dealmlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pmNo one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
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Well ATL basically paid 18.5 mil for the value of a 2nd. Don't know what else to tell you.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pmNo one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
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Ignoring that they received 2 first round picks.....SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:48 pmWell ATL basically paid 18.5 mil for the value of a 2nd. Don't know what else to tell you.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pmNo one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
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Ignoring they got Prince and a 2nd in the double draft.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:55 pmIgnoring that they received 2 first round picks.....SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:48 pmWell ATL basically paid 18.5 mil for the value of a 2nd. Don't know what else to tell you.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pm
No one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
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1. Assuming teams are under the minimum. There might be a couple of teams close to the floor.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:46 pmYou are ignoring the fact that there is a minimum cap number and if you are under it the league just takes it from you. A team that is 19 under the salary floor Teague costs them not one thin dime. And you also ignore that he is a good player on an expiring dealmlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pmNo one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
2. If a team is under the cap, the difference in money is just distributed to the players on their roster.
3. The NBA min salary cap is $91 million. So, you need to find a team that is going to be significantly under that.
4. There are teams out there that want to make salary cap because they have a lot better things to do with it than dump Jeff Teague.
5. Teague could potentially have value to a competitive team that wants his Bird Rights to sign for a lower contract next season without cap implications. The problem is these teams do not have cap room, and if they do, they have bigger ideas than adding Teague. For them, signing Teague to a MLE level deal is probably th ebetter option.
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Not saying I think it's probable. But you don't just need to be 20 under the floor. What if you are 12 under? Then he costs you 7. What's the effect on other aspects of the deal then? What happens to the one or 2 teams with a lot of space when the best players say no to them? Do they overpay a 2nd tier guy? Smart one's would try again next year and trading for Teague just holds that money as an expiring.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:03 pm1. Assuming teams are under the minimum. There might be a couple of teams close to the floor.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:46 pmYou are ignoring the fact that there is a minimum cap number and if you are under it the league just takes it from you. A team that is 19 under the salary floor Teague costs them not one thin dime. And you also ignore that he is a good player on an expiring dealmlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:42 pm
No one in the whole world is going to pay $19 million for a 2nd.
And, if we do not have anything to do with the cap space, why spend a 2nd? Just waive Teague and move on.
While all of you geniuses are telling me why stretching Teague is a bad idea, there are at least two possibilites that I raised to stretch him and either sign a high end free agent THIS season, or acquire future assets. Why trade away an asset for nothing?
2. If a team is under the cap, the difference in money is just distributed to the players on their roster.
3. The NBA min salary cap is $91 million. So, you need to find a team that is going to be significantly under that.
4. There are teams out there that want to make salary cap because they have a lot better things to do with it than dump Jeff Teague.
5. Teague could potentially have value to a competitive team that wants his Bird Rights to sign for a lower contract next season without cap implications. The problem is these teams do not have cap room, and if they do, they have bigger ideas than adding Teague. For them, signing Teague to a MLE level deal is probably th ebetter option.
Meh, it isn't going to happen until the deadline anyway.
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When we have very little to do with the money, why even consider it? Why give up an asset to just get rid of Teague?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:09 pmNot saying I think it's probable. But you don't just need to be 20 under the floor. What if you are 12 under? Then he costs you 7. What's the effect on other aspects of the deal then? What happens to the one or 2 teams with a lot of space when the best players say no to them? Do they overpay a 2nd tier guy? Smart one's would try again next year and trading for Teague just holds that money as an expiring.mlhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:03 pm1. Assuming teams are under the minimum. There might be a couple of teams close to the floor.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:46 pm
You are ignoring the fact that there is a minimum cap number and if you are under it the league just takes it from you. A team that is 19 under the salary floor Teague costs them not one thin dime. And you also ignore that he is a good player on an expiring deal
2. If a team is under the cap, the difference in money is just distributed to the players on their roster.
3. The NBA min salary cap is $91 million. So, you need to find a team that is going to be significantly under that.
4. There are teams out there that want to make salary cap because they have a lot better things to do with it than dump Jeff Teague.
5. Teague could potentially have value to a competitive team that wants his Bird Rights to sign for a lower contract next season without cap implications. The problem is these teams do not have cap room, and if they do, they have bigger ideas than adding Teague. For them, signing Teague to a MLE level deal is probably th ebetter option.
Meh, it isn't going to happen until the deadline anyway.
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Oh for fuck's sake, my hearts breaking a little
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That's what we tend to do with the Wolves.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:31 pm Per Froobs: Utah should not be trying to improve and win, they should be blowing it up.
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I like this trade for both teams. Conley does Memphis no good and they got some good draft assets.
Crowder is aight. Korver is old as dirt and meh to me. I wouldn't care to extend either if I'm Memphis.
Crowder is aight. Korver is old as dirt and meh to me. I wouldn't care to extend either if I'm Memphis.
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What's that!? I can't hear you over the sound of our core exploding.LordNu wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:17 pmThat's what we tend to do with the Wolves.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:31 pm Per Froobs: Utah should not be trying to improve and win, they should be blowing it up.
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Conley is pretty meh for his price, but fits Utah's mentality. Could be a nice get for them. Not a fleecing for either team, but a trade that makes sense for both.