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Utah Has Acquired Mike Conley

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Philo Beddoe wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:35 am Where does Ricky end up?
phoenix. they draft sekou or culver instead of a PG.
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D_H wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 am
Philo Beddoe wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:35 am Where does Ricky end up?
Back up somewhere
If Walker leaves Charlotte, I bet he goes there.
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jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because these Froobs believe that jeff Teague has a lot of appeal to teams that project to have bad records.
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jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because if they keep the vets they got in the trade they can try and give it a go and an expiring PG is kind of what the team needs.
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because these Froobs believe that jeff Teague has a lot of appeal to teams that project to have bad records.
Ha!

Maybe JT helps the tanking for the bad teams
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Philo Beddoe wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 am
D_H wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 am
Philo Beddoe wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:35 am Where does Ricky end up?
Back up somewhere
If Walker leaves Charlotte, I bet he goes there.
Could be

Charlotte can pay him the most money , so I'm guessing he stays there
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OliverMiller wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:32 am
Oriole81 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:29 am
OliverMiller wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:20 am
Korver is a nice piece to get a 2nd.

I will 100% disagree on Crowder. Okay defense and poor shooter.
Poor shooter? Last year he was 40% total FG%, 33% on 3s at a rate of 6.5 per game. For a bench player that plays okay defense (I would say better than okay) that's someone that any playoff team would want.

I'm not talking about Memphis getting a huge haul or anything for the guy, but he's definitely movable for future assets.
Those are not good percentages. Keep in mind those are regular season averages. His playoff numbers are normally worse.
They're solid percentages for a role player that still provides defense.

And his sample size in the playoffs is too small for it to be considered statistically worse.
In 2018, his playoff FG% fell to .370, but it's back to his regular season .400 clip if he makes 1.4 more of the shots he took. If he makes one more of the 3s that he took in the playoffs, his .300 clip goes to his .333 regular season clip.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:41 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because if they keep the vets they got in the trade they can try and give it a go and an expiring PG is kind of what the team needs.
Try and give what "a go?"
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:41 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because if they keep the vets they got in the trade they can try and give it a go and an expiring PG is kind of what the team needs.
Good god, seriously?
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.
Why?
Because these Froobs believe that jeff Teague has a lot of appeal to teams that project to have bad records.
Let's see what their FA plan is first before you project them to have a bad record.
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jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:42 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:41 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am

Why?
Because if they keep the vets they got in the trade they can try and give it a go and an expiring PG is kind of what the team needs.
Try and give what "a go?"
Apparently, you have not heard that turn of phrase.
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:43 am
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:41 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am

Why?
Because if they keep the vets they got in the trade they can try and give it a go and an expiring PG is kind of what the team needs.
Good god, seriously?
What in Memphis' history has made you think they are going to tank (including this trade that brings back vets). They have a ton of money in FA as well. So, do I know for sure what they will do, no, but neither do you.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:43 am
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am

Why?
Because these Froobs believe that jeff Teague has a lot of appeal to teams that project to have bad records.
Let's see what their FA plan is first before you project them to have a bad record.
They have $21 million in cap space and competing against hte big franchises in the free agent market. The just traded their best player for future assets. What do you think their FA plan is?
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:00 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:43 am
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 am

Because these Froobs believe that jeff Teague has a lot of appeal to teams that project to have bad records.
Let's see what their FA plan is first before you project them to have a bad record.
They have $21 million in cap space and competing against hte big franchises in the free agent market. The just traded their best player for future assets. What do you think their FA plan is?
Their plan should be to sell that space for whatever assets they can get and wait until next year when they will have huge space to spend. And they will.
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Did our division actually get tougher though from this move? Conley is awesome....but he's a lock to miss double digit games every year and he's turning 32 basically to start the season. Again, love his talent.....but he is on the down swing and he's officially injury prone. Not saying they won't be better with him on the court, I'm sure they will be....but I don't trust him being on the court for the majority of the year.
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The ringer says Pacers want Rubio. Collision and Jospeh are both FA’s
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Thrillkill wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:03 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:00 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:43 am

Let's see what their FA plan is first before you project them to have a bad record.
They have $21 million in cap space and competing against hte big franchises in the free agent market. The just traded their best player for future assets. What do you think their FA plan is?
Their plan should be to sell that space for whatever assets they can get and wait until next year when they will have huge space to spend. And they will.
Yep. Acquire assets. This is particularly important because they have a future first owed to Boston that is top-6 protected in 2020 and unprotected in 2021. This is one of the hottest assets in the market.
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:13 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:03 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:00 pm

They have $21 million in cap space and competing against hte big franchises in the free agent market. The just traded their best player for future assets. What do you think their FA plan is?
Their plan should be to sell that space for whatever assets they can get and wait until next year when they will have huge space to spend. And they will.
Yep. Acquire assets. This is particularly important because they have a future first owed to Boston that is top-6 protected in 2020 and unprotected in 2021. This is one of the hottest assets in the market.
It is funny because I say they may want Teauge for doing exactly what you think they should do.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:00 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:53 am Memphis grizzlies have traded Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, and multiple draft picks

Wolves division just got tougher
Utah was already a 50 win team. This move by them doesn't really impact us right now
Lol. Ya as if these other teams moves are what's holding the Wolves down.
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not sure i fully understand the angle for Jazz....but i do like what we are going to see. The injuries to GS opens a unique window. Gonna see alot of teams going for it....should be a fun draft night and free agency/trade offseason.
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Time to trade Teague and bring Ricky Back!
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:22 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:00 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:53 am Memphis grizzlies have traded Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, and multiple draft picks

Wolves division just got tougher
Utah was already a 50 win team. This move by them doesn't really impact us right now
Lol. Ya as if these other teams moves are what's holding the Wolves down.
That's what I'm saying. Last 3 years they've won 50, 48, 51 games. They were already a clear step above us and improved even more for the short term. Losing Korver and Crowder sucks but the massive upgrade from Rubio to Conley negates all that and then some.

We weren't going to be competing with Utah so it doesn't really make it tougher for us. It'd be like adding Conley to the Nuggets (or some comparable player), what does that matter to the Wolves?
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:21 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:13 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:03 pm
Their plan should be to sell that space for whatever assets they can get and wait until next year when they will have huge space to spend. And they will.
Yep. Acquire assets. This is particularly important because they have a future first owed to Boston that is top-6 protected in 2020 and unprotected in 2021. This is one of the hottest assets in the market.
It is funny because I say they may want Teauge for doing exactly what you think they should do.
What are you going to give them for taking Teague off our hands?
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Per Froobs: Utah should not be trying to improve and win, they should be blowing it up.
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:31 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:21 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:13 pm

Yep. Acquire assets. This is particularly important because they have a future first owed to Boston that is top-6 protected in 2020 and unprotected in 2021. This is one of the hottest assets in the market.
It is funny because I say they may want Teauge for doing exactly what you think they should do.
What are you going to give them for taking Teague off our hands?
Depends on how big of a deal it is. But it would average out to about a 2nd. Just like Crabbe.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:36 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:31 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:21 pm

It is funny because I say they may want Teauge for doing exactly what you think they should do.
What are you going to give them for taking Teague off our hands?
Depends on how big of a deal it is. But it would average out to about a 2nd. Just like Crabbe.
But that wasn't the Crabbe trade, was it...
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mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:39 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:36 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:31 pm

What are you going to give them for taking Teague off our hands?
Depends on how big of a deal it is. But it would average out to about a 2nd. Just like Crabbe.
But that wasn't the Crabbe trade, was it...
The Crabbe trade averaged out to a 2nd.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:46 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:39 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:36 pm

Depends on how big of a deal it is. But it would average out to about a 2nd. Just like Crabbe.
But that wasn't the Crabbe trade, was it...
The Crabbe trade averaged out to a 2nd.
Yeah, if you use Common Core Math.
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SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:46 pm
mlhouse wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:39 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:36 pm

Depends on how big of a deal it is. But it would average out to about a 2nd. Just like Crabbe.
But that wasn't the Crabbe trade, was it...
The Crabbe trade averaged out to a 2nd.
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Memphis got a sweetheart deal here. Conley was only holding them back from the rebuild. Couple expiring players, an ok prospect and 2 picks for a broken down anchor.
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