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Memphis grizzlies have traded Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, and multiple draft picks

Wolves division just got tougher

One less team in on Russell!

Nice trio of players with Conley, Mitchell, and Gobert.

The Memphis 2020 first round pick Boston has became much more valuable. It is top 6 protected in 2020 but unprotected in 2021.

FULL TRADE DETAILS:

Jazz receive:
Mike Conley

Grizzlies receive:
Grayson Allen
Kyle Korver
Jae Crowder
No. 23 pick in 2019 Draft
Future 1st-round pick

Desperation. Sweet deal for MEM.

So the only way we could have beat that if Utah preferred getting 11 to a lottery protected pick enough to take on Dieng for an extra year.

Style wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:54 am One less team in on Russell!

Nice trio of players with Conley, Mitchell, and Gobert.

Very good trade for Utah. They know they aren’t a destination for free agents so they have to acquire players by trade. Conley and Mitchell will be a very good back court.

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:53 am Memphis grizzlies have traded Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, and multiple draft picks

Wolves division just got tougher

Utah was already a 50 win team. This move by them doesn't really impact us right now

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:57 am

Style wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:54 am One less team in on Russell!

Nice trio of players with Conley, Mitchell, and Gobert.

Very good trade for Utah. They know they aren’t a destination for free agents so they have to acquire players by trade. Conley and Mitchell will be a very good back court.

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players and a second rookie this year.

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:57 am

Style wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:54 am One less team in on Russell!

Nice trio of players with Conley, Mitchell, and Gobert.

Very good trade for Utah. They know they aren’t a destination for free agents so they have to acquire players by trade. Conley and Mitchell will be a very good back court.

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players.

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:57 am

Very good trade for Utah. They know they aren’t a destination for free agents so they have to acquire players by trade. Conley and Mitchell will be a very good back court.

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players.

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

Jrowder and Korver are bench vets that will help you and they will get a Vet PG. I don't think they take much of a step back if any and Utah might be worse...marginally...

Memphis organizational strategy: hope for #1 overall for the next 3+ years. Ouch.

Great deal for Memphis... assuming that future first doesn't have too many protections.

HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:11 am Great deal for Memphis... assuming that future first doesn't have too many protections.

They pretty much doubled the reported offers they got at the deadline. Sweet deal for them.

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:57 am

Very good trade for Utah. They know they aren’t a destination for free agents so they have to acquire players by trade. Conley and Mitchell will be a very good back court.

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players.

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Ask Not wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:07 am Memphis organizational strategy: hope for #1 overall for the next 3+ years. Ouch.

They likely got better, this really is not a tank move. If they flip Crowder and Korver different story.

Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:14 am

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players.

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Korver is a nice piece to get a 2nd.

I will 100% disagree on Crowder. Okay defense and poor shooter.

Bring Ricky back

UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:20 am

I mean he's going to make 100 million to be an average point guard for 10+ years. Damn straight it's time to be happy

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:14 am

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am

I don't think it is a good deal. They might be worse. Like you said they are not a FA destination. They gave up a lot for a team that needs to build via the draft, but there is blood in the water in a more open West. They gambled. Memphis came away the winners. They will draft Ja and get a vet PG while adding some key players.

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Good point. Korver and Crowder can and probably be swapped for more assets.

SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am Memphis also may now be a team that wants Teauge.

Why?

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:20 am

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:14 am

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 am

The only thing of real value was the 23rd pick and that's a crapshoot

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Korver is a nice piece to get a 2nd.

I will 100% disagree on Crowder. Okay defense and poor shooter.

Poor shooter? Last year he was 40% total FG%, 33% on 3s at a rate of 6.5 per game. For a bench player that plays okay defense (I would say better than okay) that's someone that any playoff team would want.

I'm not talking about Memphis getting a huge haul or anything for the guy, but he's definitely movable for future assets.

Watch Ricky sign with Memphis too.

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:29 am

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:20 am

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:14 am

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Korver is a nice piece to get a 2nd.

I will 100% disagree on Crowder. Okay defense and poor shooter.

Poor shooter? Last year he was 40% total FG%, 33% on 3s at a rate of 6.5 per game. For a bench player that plays okay defense (I would say better than okay) that's someone that any playoff team would want.

I'm not talking about Memphis getting a huge haul or anything for the guy, but he's definitely movable for future assets.

Those are not good percentages. Keep in mind those are regular season averages. His playoff numbers are normally worse.

Where does Ricky end up?

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:29 am

OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:20 am

Oriole81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:14 am

Korver and Crowder are good trade pieces actually.

Korver's $7M is only partially guaranteed so they could flip him to a team needing to shave off a few million more, and Crowder is a great fit for any playoff team and his salary is still super affordable so it's not hard to put together a deal for him even if you're a playoff team that's capped out.

Korver is a nice piece to get a 2nd.

I will 100% disagree on Crowder. Okay defense and poor shooter.

Poor shooter? Last year he was 40% total FG%, 33% on 3s at a rate of 6.5 per game. For a bench player that plays okay defense (I would say better than okay) that's someone that any playoff team would want.

I'm not talking about Memphis getting a huge haul or anything for the guy, but he's definitely movable for future assets.

Playoff teams will want Crowder

Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:35 am Where does Ricky end up?

Back up somewhere